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	<description>Humans have tinkered with the natural world since we appeared on the evolutionary stage. Our days certainly seem numbered: As the home team, Nature bats last.</description>
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		<title>By: What works: Caveats for a series of essays &#8211; Guy McPherson&#39;s blog</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-3196</link>
		<dc:creator>What works: Caveats for a series of essays &#8211; Guy McPherson&#39;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If that’s not enough evidence for you, briefly consider the Laws of Thermodynamics. They’re laws, not suggestions. The much-detested Second Law really pokes a hole in the notion of sustainability. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If that’s not enough evidence for you, briefly consider the Laws of Thermodynamics. They’re laws, not suggestions. The much-detested Second Law really pokes a hole in the notion of sustainability. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Isa Test</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-3156</link>
		<dc:creator>Isa Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will it make the color of the stretch mark go away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will it make the color of the stretch mark go away?</p>
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		<title>By: austral ecology</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-3054</link>
		<dc:creator>austral ecology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ... see this link).The forecast for the Austral summer (Nov 08 Feb 09) is intensifying, ...Entropy revisited Guy McPherson&#039;s blogBy the way, I don&#039;t have a way of making an attachment to blog postings, but I located a book review [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230; see this link).The forecast for the Austral summer (Nov 08 Feb 09) is intensifying, &#8230;Entropy revisited Guy McPherson&#39;s blogBy the way, I don&#39;t have a way of making an attachment to blog postings, but I located a book review [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guy McPherson</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2889</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vertalio, the Energy Return on Investment for PV solar is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3949&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;considerably less than for wind (click to view excellent graphic)&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vertalio, the Energy Return on Investment for PV solar is <a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3949" rel="nofollow">considerably less than for wind (click to view excellent graphic)</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: vertalio</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator>vertalio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human is supposed to taste like pork, ergo the phrase &quot;long pig&quot;, sadly enough via cannibals who contracted Creutzfeld-Jakob (sic) and died.  Mad cow, more or less.
Don&#039;t eat the brain or spinal column, if you eat your neighbor, is the lesson here.

Wind requires a large carbon input to get a return, I assume solar on a large scale also does.  True?  Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human is supposed to taste like pork, ergo the phrase &#8220;long pig&#8221;, sadly enough via cannibals who contracted Creutzfeld-Jakob (sic) and died.  Mad cow, more or less.<br />
Don&#8217;t eat the brain or spinal column, if you eat your neighbor, is the lesson here.</p>
<p>Wind requires a large carbon input to get a return, I assume solar on a large scale also does.  True?  Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Moore</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reply to Michael Irving --

If I read PCI correctly, they said that no anticipated combination of energy solutions could totally replace what is in the process of being lost.  Energy density as well as return on investment is simply too low, and those pesky laws of thermodynamics are the reason why.  But any informed adjustment will be better than denial and fantasy.  Catastrophe is a relative thing, and some are worse than others.  Each life is precious to its owner and one thing I especially like about the Post Carbon Institute is the sense of equity in how to approach universal problems.  This is what democracy should ensure, but we see that even in the public arena of health care and other pending issues there is no universal call for equity in our &quot;democracy&quot;.  Still, every step we take towards it and towards a realistic view of our predicament, the better off we are, the better off someone, somewhere is.

By the way, I don&#039;t have a way of making an attachment to blog postings, but I located a book review in a journal called &quot;Austral Ecology&quot; of a new book about the collapse and transformation of our world from an evolutionary perspective.  Guy McPherson used his library connections at UA to get me the pdf file of the book review, which is pertinent.  If anyone wants the review in pdf form, contact me at stanmooregabboon@yahoo.com and I can send it directly as an attachment to a private email.  I think the review is worth reading, and wish I had access to the book itself.


Stan Moore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reply to Michael Irving &#8211;</p>
<p>If I read PCI correctly, they said that no anticipated combination of energy solutions could totally replace what is in the process of being lost.  Energy density as well as return on investment is simply too low, and those pesky laws of thermodynamics are the reason why.  But any informed adjustment will be better than denial and fantasy.  Catastrophe is a relative thing, and some are worse than others.  Each life is precious to its owner and one thing I especially like about the Post Carbon Institute is the sense of equity in how to approach universal problems.  This is what democracy should ensure, but we see that even in the public arena of health care and other pending issues there is no universal call for equity in our &#8220;democracy&#8221;.  Still, every step we take towards it and towards a realistic view of our predicament, the better off we are, the better off someone, somewhere is.</p>
<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t have a way of making an attachment to blog postings, but I located a book review in a journal called &#8220;Austral Ecology&#8221; of a new book about the collapse and transformation of our world from an evolutionary perspective.  Guy McPherson used his library connections at UA to get me the pdf file of the book review, which is pertinent.  If anyone wants the review in pdf form, contact me at <a href="mailto:stanmooregabboon@yahoo.com">stanmooregabboon@yahoo.com</a> and I can send it directly as an attachment to a private email.  I think the review is worth reading, and wish I had access to the book itself.</p>
<p>Stan Moore</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Irving</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Irving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan,

Thanks for the link to the Post Carbon letter to Obama.  I agree with the thrust of their argument, however, I have read other places that even if we were to start today and ramp up to the equivalent of a war footing (ala WWII) we still may not be able to get there from here.   Post Carbon says that distributed solar and wind is the only answer to achieving a sustainable energy future.  Such a future would also be a green future in that it would be less destructive than our current energy paradigm.  However, some of the experts are telling us that the cost, in resources (rare earths, lithium, etc.) and money (we are trillions in debt—a debt that we will never be able to pay off) is beyond what we (USA) can afford.  I hope Post Carbon is not peddling magical thinking like Obama Inc. surely is.

Michael Irving</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the Post Carbon letter to Obama.  I agree with the thrust of their argument, however, I have read other places that even if we were to start today and ramp up to the equivalent of a war footing (ala WWII) we still may not be able to get there from here.   Post Carbon says that distributed solar and wind is the only answer to achieving a sustainable energy future.  Such a future would also be a green future in that it would be less destructive than our current energy paradigm.  However, some of the experts are telling us that the cost, in resources (rare earths, lithium, etc.) and money (we are trillions in debt—a debt that we will never be able to pay off) is beyond what we (USA) can afford.  I hope Post Carbon is not peddling magical thinking like Obama Inc. surely is.</p>
<p>Michael Irving</p>
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		<title>By: vera</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope not, Frank... For the sake of all the misanthropes among us, I hope it tastes like human... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope not, Frank&#8230; For the sake of all the misanthropes among us, I hope it tastes like human&#8230; <img src='http://guymcpherson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frank Mezek</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Mezek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vera:

Is it true that human flesh tastes like chicken?

Frank Mezek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vera:</p>
<p>Is it true that human flesh tastes like chicken?</p>
<p>Frank Mezek</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Mezek</title>
		<link>http://guymcpherson.com/2010/02/entropy-revisited/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Mezek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Our Stan !!

Frank Mezek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Our Stan !!</p>
<p>Frank Mezek</p>
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