Savanna Louise Rose O’Malley McPherson

My family had a dog when I was growing up. Shorty arrived when I was in elementary school, though I don’t remember exactly when. A short, homely terrier of dubious heritage, she was an excellent, adventurous traveler. She loved camping and was truly a part of the family until she died during my college years.

My wife and I held out for a long time before we felt sufficiently mature and financially stable to have a pet of our own. Shortly after we moved into our first non-rental home — and so far, only one of two we’ve owned — we adopted a recently weaned puppy from the Humane Society in Tucson. Ever the rationalist, I insisted upon several criteria before we viewed the available dogs: female, puppy, short hair, light color, about 50 pounds fully grown.

When my wife walked into the room with available dogs, she settled on the first animal that entered her view. I consider myself lucky she didn’t first see a hippopotamus, although we did adopt a black, Doberman-German Shepherd mix that achieved nearly 100 pounds in weight.

Mancha (Spanish for “Spot”) quickly became our constant companion. She walked us twice daily in the Sonoran Desert near our small, suburban home. She took us hiking and camping and, like my childhood dog, became very much a part of me.

Mancha was diagnosed with bone cancer at about a year of age, and she died shortly after her second birthday. We approved chemotherapy and radiation therapy, and we held on too long. When Mancha died, she nearly took me with her. If I’d have had a handgun at my disposal, I would’ve used it on myself. The grief was horrible, and thinking about Mancha still brought tears to my eyes many years later. As in, today, more than twenty years after her death.

We waited a long time before considering another pet. My wife was devastated, too, and didn’t want a second dog so soon. But I dragged her to the Humane Society five years after our initial visit.

This time, my wife stayed in the car. A friend went inside with me, and the criteria remained largely the same. We were willing to take an adult, but we desired a female, short-haired, light-colored companion that weighed about 50 pounds fully grown. After checking every dog at the Humane Society, we ventured to the county animal facility (the “pound”). And then we went back to the Humane Society. Fortunately, the dog I spied on the first trip was still there an hour later.

My friend and I took the female, short-haired, brindle-and-white dog outside to meet my wife, knowing she would approve. And, seeing four legs and fur, she did. We were informed the unnamed dog was between six months and two years of age, so we arbitrarily decided that day, 21 June 1997, was adoption day and her first birthday.

Savanna shortly after she adopted us, summer 1997
Savanna shortly after she adopted us, summer 1997

Whereas Mancha was named with local heritage in mind, Savanna received her name from my primary study system. I was a field ecologist working primarily on southwestern oak savannas, and Savanna spent her early years as my constant field companion. She took us on twice-daily walks in our Sonoran Desert home, and ventured into the field with me constantly. She was an ideal adventurer, accompanying us to the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area for a leave of absence as I helped establish the world’s premiere postdoctoral program, and then to the campus of Grinnell College (Iowa) for a short teaching stint, and finally to The Nature Conservancy property where I took my final sabbatical leave from the University of Arizona. Myriad side-trips included familial visits, vacations, and field trips of every imaginable variety.

Savanna was a natural-born hunter. She accumulated 14 vertebrate species on her life kill list, including a skunk (pure persistence), two species of cottontail rabbit (pure speed), three species of lizard (pure quickness), and a quail — in flight, on a nature preserve (pure embarrassment, for me).

Savanna was a warrior, and she was also a witness. She saw my transition from earnest ecologist to cynical social critic. She was present for the end of the age of expansion and the beginning of the age of contraction. She traveled thousands of miles and enriched the lives of hundreds of humans and other animals (although admittedly not those many individuals whose lives she terminated).

Savanna, shown here in December 2001, loved to open presents
Savanna, shown here in December 2001, loved to open gifts

At the age of ten years, Savanna’s knees went south. She’d already had minor surgery on one wrist. And, thanks to a collision with a cactus spine while chasing prey, she came within a hundredth of an inch of losing the vitreous humor from one eye, according to the astonished eye specialist. But knee surgery is serious business. We opted for tibial plateau leveling osteotomy (TPLO), an incredibly invasive and disruptive process with an excellent record of full recovery. Savanna’s recovery was rapidly complete seven full years ago.

On Thanksgiving Day 2012, Savanna suffered numerous puncture wounds under her chin, though we did not see them that day. The following morning, 23 November 2012, her head and neck suddenly swelled. A lot. The emergency veterinarian barely glanced at her, concluded a venomous snake was the likely culprit, and sent us along our way. The serious bleeding from the puncture wounds beneath Savanna’s chin began three days later, by which time Savanna had been transported to a reliable veterinarian in Tucson. I knew these were her final days.

I was mistaken, fortunately, reminding me of one of my undesirable traits: frequently in error, but never in doubt. The puncture wounds did not result from a snake, though the source was never identified. Against all odds, Savanna recovered and carried on for another seven months. As my wife and I were caught between flights in an airport yesterday, we received the news: The friend that helped me select Savanna sixteen years ago came home to check on the dog we left in her care. The Best Dog Ever died in her sleep 19 June 2013, two days short of her seventeenth birthday.

When we received the news in the airport, we tried to arrange an immediate trip back home. Alas, we were too late for the last flight back to Tucson. We’ll spend time with the living and will return home to the body of our best friend early next week after celebrating a family wedding.

Savanna plays in the snow, February 2013
Savanna plays in the snow in Tucson, February 2013

All in all, Savanna experienced the Gonzo life described by Hunter S. Thompson: “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming ‘Wow! What a Ride!'” We should all be so lucky. Although our lives have been forever enriched by Savanna Louise Rose O’Malley McPherson, good luck isn’t on my mind today.

Savanna, a few hours before her death
Savanna, a few hours before her death

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  • I cried like a little girl when we put down our cat a few years ago – it hurt so bad. I admit I was surprised that I would be so devastated…

  • Great, great dog…Savanna come! RIP

  • So sorry to hear about Savanna, but what dog could have had a better life than the one you guys gave her? Rest in peace, faithful pooch — and warm thoughts to you both. CS

  • Thanks for sharing Guy. It’s good to know that one who has the courage to gaze into the abyss, can also grieve a beloved animal friend. If we all perish on this beautiful planet, it will be due to our lack of love. A culture based on ruthless competition for material goods and status, which pursues those goals by violence and lies, does not deserve to continue. To learn to truly love everything in existence is our only chance for survival. Presently we are headed full speed in another direction…

  • What a beautiful story and a beautiful face. Our oldest daughter always said that before having children people should have a dog to take care of, seems like Savanna was more like a child to you, as pets should be, in our opinion.

    When we put our 11 yo shepherd down, our shepherd now mourned for months. The vet told us he could mourn for years. Even today he doesn’t roam the property like he use to when Ashleigh was here.

    Sorry you were not with her when she passed, must of been very hard for you both. Sending love your way,
    Elaine and David

  • ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) – With a heat wave gripping Alaska, strange things have been happening under the midnight sun.

    Anchorage residents, who a month ago shivered through an unseasonably cold spring and a surprise May snowstorm, have donned swimsuits and depleted stores of fans to ward off record heat in the state’s largest city.

    Temperatures have run as much as 20 degrees Fahrenheit above normal, with daytime highs in Anchorage climbing into the 80s in recent days, and the sudden onset of atypical warmth has been blamed for unleashing wildfires and flooding alike.

    Moose have been spotted near lawn sprinklers around Anchorage and at least one invaded someone’s kiddie pool. Pet reptiles, normally confined to heated indoor spaces because of Alaska’s cold outdoors, are making rare public appearances.

  • Every dog or cat I’ve been lucky enough to have spent significant time with has amazed, comforted, taught, and surprised me yet ultimately broke my heart. It can’t be helped. They embody selfless love (well, at least the dogs seem to), complete devotion, zen-like simplicity, knowledge of our ways and habits, and are masters of comfort simply by being there.

    When my currently 9-yr old pit-mix (looks more like an Am-Staff) tore his ACL chasing a ball (full out, all the time) and recovered using acupuncture and swim-therapy to damn near 100%, I was thrilled and amazed. We got him a year old playmate (a Weimaraner runt, the breeder was going to “put down” & we got as a rescue) who not only won over the old dog (who initially wanted nothing to do with him) but everyone he comes in contact with.

    I’ve come to accept that they get old and die (I usually bury them in my back yard) – but it always takes a piece of my heart watching it happen. Sorry to hear of your loss, Guy. Don’t be afraid of finding another if and when you’re ready. They all have something to teach us.

  • A tour group visiting Yellowstone, home to the Old Faithful geyser, first complained June 7 of symptoms linked to norovirus, the most common cause of acute gastroenteritis in the United States, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The illness has since affected 100 Yellowstone employees, 50 Grand Teton workers and at least 50 visitors, park officials said.

    The warning comes a year after Yosemite National Park last September warned 230,000 visitors of a hantavirus outbreak that had infected nine overnight visitors and killed three.

  • Very sorry to hear of your loss Guy, I count the days that I have lost pets among the saddest in my life.

  • I know that pain.

    In all honesty, I prefer the company of a good dog to that of most people.

  • OMG what a sweet, sweet doggie! Love is love, no matter if the recipient is person or animal. So sorry for your loss, Guy and family. That last picture, her eyes are sparkling with mischief, she still looks like a young pup!

  • Oh, Guy. What a beautiful tribute. I was tearing up when I saw Sheila’s post, but this beautiful tribute really started the tears. I am so sorry. She truly was a very special girl and I know she had the best life ever.

  • My sincerest condolences. I adopted a shelter 3yr old golden retreiver named April three years ago. She works with me sometimers now as a therapy dog and we are pretty much inseparable. Not sure how I will deal with the day when she is no longer here. Her presence is so powerfully wonderful for me and those she shares her gentle heart and time with but your deeply felt description of your dogs is inspiring.

  • My wife and I have pugs. We got our first one in 1995. He died unexpectedly at the kennel while we were on vacation in 1999. My wife was a basket case for a week. Since then we have lost a couple of others — they only live about 12 or 13 years. They are our children since we decided against have any human children. Right now we have three. They snuggle with us in bed at night and provide endless joy and entertainment. If and when societal collapse makes it impossible to take care of them I’m sure my wife will decide to exit stage left.

    The next leg down in the financial collapse seems to be under way. Fed announces a winding down of QE and markets are tanking all over. Amazing that they’ve kept it propped up this long.

  • The Fed is destroying (has destroyed) the US economy and it’s going to take the rest of the world with it.

    Silver is below $20 an ounce – too bad you can’t eat it!

    I would expect the riots to begin soon…

  • My condolences to you and your wife.

  • So sorry for your loss. I have two dogs. The oldest is 14 and I watch with a heavy heart as he struggles to get around. I have carpet strip paths on the hardwood floors to make it easier for him to make his way through the house. He has a been a loyal, loving friend and protector all these years.

  • Such a beautiful and loving story.

  • Guy and Sheila,

    What a great tribute to your beautiful daughter. My heart is heavy, but I know she had the best life ever!

  • You have my deepest sympathies too, Guy. Savannah looked like a truly wonderful friend. I’m similarly owned by a remarkably conscious and self-possessed dog. Whenever I get too cynical, he reminds me about what’s important in life: the warm sun, the cool breezy shade, endless smells on the wind, the pure joy of running, the deep peace of sleep – and undying love.

    RIP Savannah. Good dog.

  • “The most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or touched, they are felt with the heart.”

    ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince

  • “The dog up and died, he up and died, after 20 years he still grieved…” the one line I live with from Mr Bojangles, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band

    When I carried Simba, a rescued golden retriever up that hill in the blanket, to bury him in the hole I had dug overlooking the Nashua River Valley in springtime greenery, I cried, I wailed as I never have since in my adult life.

    I know how it included the impending breakup of a marriage and a family life in a beautiful home setting, but the dog was the emotional glue that held it together, held me at least. He had carried the soul of our family alongside me as we struggled through many threats. Loyalty that I have rarely seen since.

    We braved his love of a neighbor’s piles of sheep shit, skunks, porcupine needle removal from his nose, ticks gorged with blood, and his brave return six miles through the woods to the ranch of the dog catcher who had been a day away from killing him, in order to court a girlfriend in captivity there. He leapt as high at the fence holding her as he had for us that day two years before when we came to take him. Sad that we couldn’t include her in a family move about to happen.

    We heard about those remote misadventures, but somehow, his timing was perfect; he was always home waiting for us.

    (Just watched Life of Pi, so an animal theme is upon me today; when I go out the back door, I’ll hope to see my bunny visitor munching clover in my driveway, and my deer coming to pull tasty leaves off the apple trees. Some days, they’re the only folks I talk to, or want to… now, if I could just train them to bring me a beer when I’m in the hammock.)

    All sympathies. No, it won’t go away; pure things never do. They keep their place in us.

  • So sorry to hear that Guy. To tell the truth I actually never liked dogs but when middle daughter was little she begged and begged, so finally when she was around 4 years old (big enough to take some responsibility) I got her a Cavalier King Charles puppy. She named him Snowball because he was white with brown spots like a snowball with leaves stuck in it.

    With three animal-loving kids (she’s a horse vet now) we’ve had many pets pass away over the years but when Snowball died that was the worst. What an irrepressibly happy little guy he was. Boundless, unconditional love, nothing like it.

  • My condolences, Guy and family. I lost my golden retriever of 10+ years last month. My days are still pretty empty.

    I have little in the way of material things to leave. Dogs are wiser than men. They do not set great store upon things. They do not waste their days hoarding property. They do not ruin their sleep worrying about how to keep the objects they have, and to obtain objects they have not.

    There is nothing of value I have to bequeath except my love and my faith. These I leave to all those who have loved me, especially to my Master and Mistress, who I know will mourn me the most.

    I ask my Master and my Mistress to remember me always, but not to grieve for me too long. In my life I have tried to be a comfort to them in time of sorrow, and a reason for added joy in their happiness. It is painful for me to think that even in death I should cause them pain.

    It will be a sorrow to leave them, but not a sorrow to die. Dogs do not fear death as men do. We accept it as part of life, not as something alien and terrible which destroys life.

    Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long, happy life with you: “Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved.”

    No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

    – Eugene O’Neill “The Last Will and Testament of an Extremely Distinguished Dog”

  • Guy thanks for sharing. I am sorry for your loss.

    I love animals and give all pets a good life, but have never been strong on grieving. I used to think that was something wrong with me. But I was able to be a Hospice Volunteer without crashing each time a patient died. I was able to come in in the morning at the Children’s Home in Haiti and note which children had died, feel a bit sad but then turn my care to those still alive. So I have come to be grateful that I don’t spend much energy on grieving, not only for my own comfort but also for the fact that I was able to be useful to others because of it.

    With coming hard times, food shortages, etc it is perhaps wise to forgo taking in any new pets. As hard as it is to lose a beloved pet from old age, how much harder if you cannot feed them any longer and have to choose between starvation and euthanasia. (when the vets no longer get drugs that will mean a bullet or knife)

    However it is obvious that unlike myself most humans do grieve deeply. As we enter the coming difficult times then it seems appropriate to once again urge people to get tubes tied before birth control is unavailable. How much more will you grieve if you birth a child only to see the child die young. How guilty will you feel if you birth a child into a world of constant grieving until we are all gone.

    I hope Guy’s pain, so openly shared, reminds people of just how painful the loss of a loved one is.

  • Guy and Sheila,
    For some strange reason, I was thinking about Savanna this morning and then I turn on the computer and read your blog.
    I share in your sadness.
    Savanna was a wonderful dog (and a great escape artist).

  • When my little boy, Quixote del Oro, died at 13 I could not get another dog. I decided to start rescuing Chihuahuas. I volunteered for a national rescue but then started my own 501c3 – Quixote Humane. Needless to say I now have three dogs of my own, nine foster dogs and another 20 in other foster homes. Pay forward. I believe you get more than you give. We have placed over 700 dogs in the past 13 years. Choose a cause and commit to it.

  • I remember reading a story years ago about an old Sicilian Mafia Matriarch, who over the course of her long life in the family business, had buried brothers, sons and husbands and it was said she never once shed a tear. However when her dog died, she was so stricken with grief she died shortly thereafter. Don’t know if the story is true or just urban legend, but given I’ve never cried so hard, as when I’ve had to put two of my own dogs down, I think it might be. Thanks for showing the compassion to share your loss with us Guy. They truly do become members of the family. Take care my friend.

  • So sad to hear of your fur child loss…

    As you’ve said in the past, life is a tragedy, and none of us get out alive. Enjoy the companionship of non-humans, and appreciate their love and wisdom, while they are with us.

    From Timothy’s epic piece at

    Elizabeth Kubler Ross: “The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.”

  • A beautifully written tribute to a grand girl. Guy, I’m so sorry for your tremendous loss.

  • I was waiting to see if anyone was going to quote EB White, but it looks the phrase that best describes our Boston is still open:

    A really companionable and indispensable dog is an accident of nature. You can’t get it by breeding and you can’t buy it with money. It just happens along.

    As for recent Fed activity, the question becomes “why now”? Is it the administration vs academics (re ‘Bama dissing Ben), or militarization of Wall St ie strike now while still possible? Or is it actually Snowden who is driving the impetus to quickly bring down the facade and usher in reality for the rubes?

    The thing to remember is that the interest bearing debt-money system has a limited shelf life; that is, it was/is designed to fail. (Money to pay accruing interest must come from an expanding money supply, which itself is interest bearing debt.)

    What is unknown at the beginning of each cycle is how long it will last before terminal stall is achieved. These dependencies are all a function of resource availability, population/demographics (ie birth/death, migratory patterns), technological advances, etc.

    War is the solution to absolve certain parties of frauds committed during the long run-up phase. Only under war time emergency powers can losses be meted out to the designated population(s) without significant fear of popular blowback against the PTB.

    Nicole Foss refers to these debts as “excess claims”, whereas Mako/Hypertiger usually referred to it as “a liquidation event” as in termination of ‘useless eaters’, this time numbering perhaps in the billions.

    Regardless, it’s clear that we’ve now entered the time frame whereby emergency powers are going to have to be utilized. Personally, I’m in agreement with Gross and others that this is merely a head fake. However, it still stands that the eventual end-game is one of default/devaluation.

    In order to accomplish that with minimum disruption to the status quo, the country is going to have to be in virtual lock down, which of course means war. War enables state directed rationing, price controls, resource allocation, travel restrictions, suspension of speech/assembly, etc, etc.

    Which brings us back full circle to the original question: why now?

  • Cowgirl Apocalypse Haiku #21

    So long, happy trails
    through namesake fields, boundless love.
    Good dog, Savanna!

  • What a lovely moving tribute to a great dog. I fell in love with her through your words.

  • Thank you for telling us the story of Savannah and sharing the great pics. What a sweetie!

  • My condolences to you and your wife, Guy. She seemed like a true champ!

  • I appreciate the personal story Guy. It just shows we can have love and companionship, not just in the two armed form.

  • I have always thought that dogs are people too..Now that I see we will bring down all the other species besides ourselves I am feeling that bugs are people too..

  • Awww 17 years is a spectacular wonderful life. Your moving post is very fitting for a wonderful creature that loved and was loved back. Condolences to you both. I know plenty of animals that are better friends than some humans.

  • Guy,
    Sorry to hear about Savanna’s passing. I’ve only had two dogs in my adult life and each has been very special to me. When I lost the first one about ten years ago it was very difficult. I feel your pain. Just keep her alive in your memories of all of the wonderful times you shared and know that you helped her to have a full and adventurous life that surely was full of joy. While I can imagine that she was able to understand you as only our dogs do, take solace in the thought that she probably never really understood what you were saying about the predicament of our times.

  • Guy, thank you for sharing this very personal moment. I feel your pain deeply. When Lilly died a year and a half ago, after 13 years in my life, I cried more than I have ever cried. My grief was deeper than it was for my father who died six months previously. Dogs add so much to our lives. They love unconditionally. The best time ever in their life is every time you come home. They never complain. And even when they chew up an expensive piece of furniture or your best water hose (happened today with our 10 month old lab), you still can’t help but love them because you know it wasn’t malice.

    I surprise myself sometimes in that I don’t really mourn the coming loss of humanity that much; the human species is clearly a defective and diseased branch on the evolutionary tree. Sure, some of it is beautiful, but the rest: not so much. But oh my god, how my heart breaks to think of what we’re doing to the rest of the creatures on our beautiful planet. It makes me want to cry all over again.

  • I forgot to say that dogs also always love to wash the dishes. How many humans can you say that about? :-)

  • Dogs:
    “You give them what food you can,what time you can & what love you can & in return they give all.”

    Too bad it’s not working for one particular species today.

  • Sorry for your loss Guy. Take care.

  • Sad. For some reason, it brought to mind a Ralph McTell song, Old Brown Dog, which often brought a lump to my throat.

  • “If there are no dogs in Heaven,
    then when I die I want to go
    where they went.”

    Will Rogers, 1897-1935

    Guy. Get another dog.

  • Considering the implications of the subject matter covered in this space, I feel sorry for anyone who has pets they love. It’s going to be terrible for them. People are going to kill and eat the little loves. Do as Bob Barker has suggested for the past forty years and neuter and spay what pets are out there and put an end to owning pets. It’s better to be pet-free going into this imminent catastrophe; it’s going to be tough enough as it is.

  • Very sad but at least these dogs had good friends while they were alive; their lives were much better for it.

  • If I could live a life with more animals and fewer people, it would be a much happier life indeed.

    My plan for the end of the world includes my pets….we will drink the kool aid together, lie down, and go to sleep in each other’s company… least…I hope so.

    My sincere condolences to you and Sheila. Good dog, Savanna, good dog.

  • @ Woof Woof

    Too bad ol’ Bob didn’t take his own advice and had himself neutered eh?
    For those international forum participants Bob Barker was an American television game show host who enjoyed a very long career in America’s daytime television wasteland.

  • @ Jimmie:

    I really don’t think you need to worry about anyone trying to plagiarize your work.

    @ B9K9:

    I don’t think I’m alone in wondering just what you are up to really. I read on another blog that Obama is a member of the Bilderberg Group – I’m not sure that makes any sense! Look, whether or not this is all part of some sinister Illuminati plan, the fact remains that the combination of peak oil, overpopulation, resource shortages, economic uncertainty, climate change, and increased friction between and within nations will lead to an unmitigated runaway nightmare.

    Your response seems to be how best to position yourself so as to be a member of the ruling minority or at least an indispensable member of their legion of enforcers. If this is incorrect please say so. If it is correct, then it begs the question as to why you bother to post here.

    As to your question of “Why now?” Well, you have to assume somebody is asking “Why not now?” and there you have your answer. As you have mentioned many times, the masses have been hypnotized and they (we) will soon be summarily dispatched to the ash heap. On this, most of us agree. The only question is by who, when, and how. I think it will be soon.

    Still, I hold out hope that TPTB themselves will be overwhelmed by the pace of events and we will have full scale pandemonium such that no one, no organization, no govt, no military, will be able to control anything to any real degree. I’m sure that is a scenario that TPTB realize is possible and I’m sure they have a Plan B for that.

  • Sorry for the loss of your four legged friend. I had many pets when I was young but have had nothing as an adult. I tell myself I am to busy and out of town to much but the real reason is that I know they will pass on and I never like it.

  • Ulvfugl on the last post you wrote Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn’t noticed Wasdell was offering psychotherapy. He’s definitely one of the good guys in, imo, but he’s still mistaken, in that he still talks about ‘stabilising the climate’ which is nonsense, in my estimation, a meaningless term and impossible to accomplish.

    After looking up Wasdell to confirm what i remembered about him I found he has done a new set of talks. He has moved much closer to thinking that the situation is beyond help, but hasn’t quite made the leap that we are quite there. But heck we only made that here on NBL about 2 years or less ago.

    I recommend to all listening to these two vids – both at as well as a PDF

    After putting out various information that move ice free arctic to 2015 he adds some more and puts ice free Arctic as this summer.

    Some quotes It is already feeding on itself, with the water-vapour
    feedback, the ice-albedo feedback and other factors all combining to amplify the effects of the carbon dioxide trigger which set off the dynamics in the Arctic. In a sense, the human trigger is now almost irrelevant. The feedbacks have taken over.

    He also talks at how particulates have (before we started cleaning them out of the air) and are (thanks to China) holding back some of the warming if not a lot of the warming in non arctic parts of the world. At the end he says Socially we know we will be starting to remove some of the aerosols, the particulates in the atmosphere that, at the moment, are reflecting some of the solar energy back into space He doesn’t make it clear what social event will do that, but perhaps he anticipates economic collapse.

    It is at any rate his most dismal presentation and doesn’t suggest what remedies might save the day, so I suspect he is dipping his toes in the NBL waters, but just as Guy advocates resistance even though the die is cast, he will continue to advocate change even though he pretty much knows the die is cast. That is my sense of it anyway.

    To tie this in to the current essay – as I an others have said, don’t get more pets, get your pets neutered. Unless you are a gay man or a menopausal woman get yourself neutered. Birth control will go, and societal controls regarding rape will go. Luckily except for the dog, our only other pets are chickens and while we don’t like to eat the hens, only roosters, we can do it. And they are much easier to dispatch when we can’t feed them than other pets. There will be plenty of grieving and those who have prepared to live a bit longer when the crash comes will get to watch death come stalking for a bit longer. Do all you can to minimize the grief. As wuldwoman notes that might include plans for an exit for you and your pets before you have to smell the stench of rotting corpses.

  • Off topic, but it looks like you guys just lost your ‘effective’ 5th Amendment rights.

    ‘The Supreme Court Decided Your Silence Can Be Used Against You’

    Yes, it comes via ‘Infowars’, but that’s where I found it.

    A quote:

    “Basically, if you’re ever in any trouble with police (no, we don’t condone breaking laws) and want to keep your mouth shut, you will need to announce that you’re invoking your Fifth Amendment right instead of, you know, just keeping your mouth shut. “Petitioner’s Fifth Amendment claim fails because he did not expressly invoke the privilege against self-incrimination in response to the officer’s question,” reads the opinion from Justice Samuel Alito….”

    So let me get this right: a constitutional right that is meant to protect every citizen, including some very uneducated, even very poor individuals who would not really be aware of most of their basic civil rights, from having to say anything self incriminating while being questioned by police by allowing them to remain silent, until they are informed of this right, (Miranda rights), are now being found legally to be acting criminally when they remain silent before they are read their rights..? Yes?

    Wow, how many law degrees did these guys have to get to be so smart?

    We here in Australia have a way of stating the low calibre of a sporting referees credentials, (usually yelled from the sideline):

    “What breakfast cereal box did you get your badge from ref?”

    You guys need to adapt this to your supreme court judges.

    As usual when it happens there, we are going to get it here soon too….very predictable. The tragedy unfolds…

    I watched ‘Minority Report’, which has that popular ‘Pop Gun’ and Scienfologist star Tommy Cruise. It has a very interesting subplot about fate and free will, one where whether knowing your future makes it more possible to change it? Then there is Pre-crime.

    Imagine if we had that system we could apply to the financial sector?

    Call it Pre-fraud.

  • good stuff:

    States’ rights movements have been spreading across the nation. States are increasingly adopting laws that purport to nullify federal laws — setting up intentional legal conflicts, directing local police not to enforce federal laws and, in rare cases, even threatening criminal charges for federal agents who dare to do their jobs.

    An Associated Press analysis found that about four-fifths of the states now have enacted local laws that directly reject or ignore federal laws on marijuana use, gun control, health insurance requirements and identification standards for driver’s licenses. The recent trend began in Democratic leaning California with a 1996 medical marijuana law and has proliferated lately in Republican strongholds like Kansas, where Gov. Sam Brownback this spring became the first to sign a measure threatening felony charges against federal agents who enforce certain firearms laws in his state.

  • Kathy C

    A Boy and His Dog 1

    Some might need a dog.

    Funny how this movie looks a bit more likely than it did when it came out.

    Also, the dog is smarter than the young guy (Don Johnson).

  • That is a great movie – I love it when they eat the girl.

  • Wild Old Dog

    For all the doggies. I haven’t had one since my mom died when I was 16, scattering the siblings to the wind and not one of us able to take our sweet Sativa. That was 25 years ago. She went to her old owners, but was the kind of dog you miss forever, half wolf, wildly protective of us kids, and always making trouble, running on the highway, coming home with chickens in her mouth. I rescued many a cat in my day, but those days are over, as well, with my son being allergic to pets. It’s sad for the kids, but I am secretly relieved, because every animal equals a broken heart in my world.

  • It is a well-known fact that current levels of production are sufficient, yet millions of people are still suffering and dying of starvation. This is truly scandalous.

    A way has to be found to enable everyone to benefit from the fruits of the earth, and not simply to close the gap between the affluent and those who must be satisfied with the crumbs falling from the table.

    There is a need to oppose the shortsighted economic interests and the mentality of power of a relative few who exclude the majority of the world’s peoples.

    A culture of waste grows in an increasingly consumerist world and throwing away good food is like stealing from poor people.

  • While fracking produces more natural gas, which is less polluting than coal and oil, it also releases methane into the air, which is more polluting than the carbon dioxide released from the burning of coal and oil, and it uses toxic chemicals in the process as well as massive amounts of water. There have even been reports of small earthquakes at some fracking sites, which environmentalists attribute to the technology.

  • The corporate office of 7-Eleven told its 5,600 franchise owners of the chain’s convenience stores on Thursday that it was requiring an internal review of personnel files after federal authorities seized 14 stores in New York and Virginia this week that employed undocumented workers in a “modern-day plantation system.”

    The owners of the 7-Eleven franchise stores allegedly forced undocumented workers with stolen identities to work 100 hours a week for a fraction of their wages, according to federal authorities.

    Ten 7-Eleven stores in New York and four in Virginia were seized on Monday as part of the federal investigation that found the workers from Pakistan were given identities stolen from children and the deceased, according to federal prosecutor Loretta E. Lynch.

    Farrukh Baig, his wife Bushra, and seven others were charged with fraud, identity theft and concealing illegal immigrants to work in their stores. Court records said they employed illegal workers since 2000, forced them to work long hours for less pay and required them to live in residences owned and controlled by the store owners.

  • “Come into the light, Savanna. Come into the light.”

  • Euthanasia. It’s a hugely controversial subject. We can’t even bring ourselves to allow a painless death to those who are terminally ill and in horrible pain and suffering. What’s it going to be like when we have to face ending the lives of those close to us, not just pets but our own children and family members, to minimize their suffering. Those facing a natural death in the next few years may be the lucky ones.

  • HIGHWOOD RIVER, Calgary — As many as 100,000 people could be forced from their homes by heavy flooding in western Canada, Calgary city officials said, while mudslides forced the closure of the Trans-Canada Highway, isolating the mountain resort towns of Banff and Canmore.

  • South Fork, Colorado

    Pine Trees killed by the pine beetle are everywhere in Colorado, perfect for feeding wild fires.

    Fire spokesman Penny Bertram said officials rate the chances of saving the town of about 400 full-time residents as “low to moderate.”

    Bertram said the hot, dry and windy weather along with large stands of beetle-killed trees are causing extreme fire behavior. While most fires actively burn four hours a day, this one is burning for 12 hours a day, helping it to mushroom in recent days.

    Firefighters have largely let the lightning-sparked fire burn because it’s too hot and erratic to fight on the ground. Water and slurry drops from air tankers also haven’t been effective, with pilots reporting that their drops largely evaporated before hitting the ground.

    “There’s no stopping it,” Bertram said.

    The town is a popular spot for hiking and camping. The fictional Griswold family camped in South Fork in 1983’s “National Lampoon’s Vacation.” The famous scene where a dog urinates on a picnic basket was filmed at South Fork’s Riverbend Resort, called “Kamp Komfort” in the movie.

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    If man were immortal he could be perfectly sure of seeing the day when everything in which he had trusted should betray his trust, and, in short, of coming eventually to hopeless misery. He would break down, at last, as every good fortune, as every dynasty, as every civilization does. In place of this we have death. ~Charles Sanders Peirce
    To himself everyone is immortal; he may know that he is going to die, but he can never know that he is dead. ~Samuel Butler

  • They tell us that suicide is the greatest piece of cowardice… that suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person. ~Arthur Schopenhauer

    Suicide is man’s way of telling God, “You can’t fire me – I quit.” ~Bill Maher, on Politically Incorrect, 1995

  • I too have a question for B9K9, because I am inclined to think that the behavior of all people (other than a very tiny minority), regardless of how greedy, powerful, or intelligent they are, are dominated by optimism bias. Do you have any evidence that TPTB (whoever they are) understand the dire consequences of climate change and are in fact preparing to survive it somehow?

    I don’t think it is sufficient to point to loss of civil liberties and/or FEMA camp preparations and/or miliarization of police and so forth, since those are nothing new in human empires and have occurred on huge scales in the past, long before people worried about climate change and the collapse of industrial society. So there are obviously other reasons that certain leaders lean towards fascism.

    So what evidence is there?

  • Thank you for the wonderful tribute, and my condolences on your loss.

  • Thanks for the tribute, Guy! I’ve been there. Pets have become family members in my experience. My sympathies.

  • Attention all members of The Resistance, our brothers in Brazil have mobilized!

    RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Brazil awoke Friday to city centers still smoldering after a night that shocked the nation: 1 million anti-government protesters took to the streets in scores of cities, with clusters battling police and destroying swaths of storefronts and government buildings.

    President Dilma Rousseff called an emergency meeting about the protest with top Cabinet members Friday, after a largely silent and much criticized response to some of the biggest demonstrations seen in this 192 million-person country in decades.

    There were also growing calls on social media and in mass emails for a general strike next week. If it materializes, the action could bring in unions and other organized groups to what has so far been an amorphous explosion of discontent over everything from high crime to poor education.

  • So sorry for your loss….I truly understand the grief that comes from losing a four-legged family member.

  • Guy –
    “Wow, what a life!” And what a tribute to a life lived fully, injuries and all. Saying goodbye is hard, missing a goodbye is harder. But one can blindly hope that like our present, all are pasts are occurring somewhere and that Savannah is still at your side.

  • Gail, you didn’t ask me, but I’ll throw in my two cents. We know that every president since at least Jimmy Carter has known about peak oil. (That’s about the only evidence I have, the rest is speculation.) Obviously, they understand fully the consequences of that phenomenon. I think that’s the primary reason for the continued erosion of freedoms. They see what’s coming and they know it will be bad.

    Probably a smaller group understands the full implications of climate change and possible NTE. I have no doubt that ALL the various scenarios have been presented to the president, et al. The recent revelations re NSA makes it clear that at least they know about the topics discussed at NBL, if nothing else.

    The meat of your question is whether or not there is any evidence that they are preparing to survive this. I suspect the answer isn’t clearcut and their reactions are similar to those here: a mixed bag of denial, acceptance, and bargaining.

  • I do not know what I will do when the final spark (Old Brown Dog – lyric) goes out. I will die too.

  • Guy,
    You and your wife have our heartfelt sympathy. We know what you’re going through. It’s a hard day. But I hope that knowing you gave her your love and tender care and a long and happy life will help to ease your pain. And I hope that someday your memories of Savanna, playing with your baby goat, will bring a smile to your faces. She was a good girl. She will be missed.
    John and Debby

  • @TRDH

    You state:

    “We know that every president since at least Jimmy Carter has known about peak oil”.

    I know this is practically ancient history at this point, but during the summer of 2005, Bill Clinton was randomly asked–can’t remember by whom–what his summer reading list was, or something like what was he currently reading. At that moment, he was reading Heinberg’s “The Party’s Over”. He was very impressed with the book and highly suggested others should read it. But here is the interesting part, and why I remember this little insignificant story. He openly stated that he couldn’t believe that no one had ever brought this subject up during his presidency. That two years after Heinberg’s book was released, and five years after his presidency had ended, 2005 was the first time Peak Oil had crossed his radar.

    Now was he lying? Who knows. But the candidness of this casual interview, left me with the impression that he was telling the truth.

    Never underestimate the power of positive thinking, or the projection of cynics in assuming critical thinking is broadly distributed throughout the Halls of Power. History is rife with how little was known by those who should have known better.

  • This may be interesting to Dr. McPherson, Dairyman Dave and The Real Dr. House:

    This week in Microbiology podcast:

    TWiM #58: The brain microbiome

    Two papers are discussed: the first is how mycorrhiza help plants communicate with other plants to mount a defence against aphids.

    The second paper shows that the normal brain has bacterial genetic sequences and bacterial proteins in the microglia and astrocytes.

    Both go to show the enormously complex interconnectedness of all things.

    The idea of signals transmitted through a network of mycorrhiza suggests a slow intelligence with signals acting over days instead of milliseconds. An awareness associated with such an intelligence would have little commonality with what is familiar to us. Even though chemical inputs equivalent to smell and taste, mechanical inputs equivalent to hearing and touch, and light inputs equivalent to vision could affect such a system, they would be so different that it may be impossible to form a concept of such awareness.

  • Thanks for sharing that, Guy. Those of us who have forsworn children seek pets as surrogates.

    You got to enjoy Savannah for a dozen years longer than I had Maya, the finest goat I’d ever known. She would greet me at the gate every morning, and would let me know when the other goats had done something bad. We had a special relationship, which ended in “milk fever” (hypocalcemia), which I mis-diagnosed as mastitis, playing a role in her demise.

    17 years is a fairly long time for most pets. I’m happy you were able to enjoy her as long as you did!


  • ‘China To Introduce Death Penalty For Egregious Polluters’

    ‘China Birth Defects ‘Up Sharply’’


    China getting the ‘benefits’ of economic growth and industrialisation.

    On the home front…..

    ‘SES issues flash flooding warning for NSW coast’


    “Heavy rain is forecast to fall right across the NSW coastline as far south as Narooma and stretching to the mid north coast.

    The heaviest falls are expected on Sunday and Monday.

    Up to 150 millimetres of rain is expected in some areas with flood watches in place at Paterson and Williams Valleys, Wyong, Georges River and the Nepean River Valley.”

    I heard possible 200 mm on the ABC news last night.

    This looks like the new normal.

    ‘Sydney averages rainfall and temp chart’

    This shows Sydney June average is 130mm for the whole month.

    ‘Sinkholes Discovered in the Dead Sea’

    Water overuse and water table dropping are blamed here.

  • Kathy C, that’s a chilling (no pun intended) message from David Wasdell; thanks for the link. There was only one minor thing I’d quibble with: that global temperature has cooled slightly in the last 15 years. As I understand it, all main datasets show a continued warming, if much smaller (though error bars could take it into cooling, technically). We’ve had the warmest decade on record and the last 12 years have been among the 13 warmest on record.

    I have seen a similar presentation by him and had thought that Wasdell was a climate scientist but it appears not, though he was a reviewer of the last IPCC report, AR4. This doesn’t necessarily affect his message though it was odd that he said temperatures have fallen slightly and cited an increase in particulates, though he did eventually mention that ocean heat content had risen sharply (which I think climate scientists take as the primary reason for the slowdown in warming).

    The message, though is chilling and has nudged me towards the near term extinction camp a little, though it has nudged me even more towards a much more bleak future than I had envisioned (and I had envisioned a fairly bleak future).

    It’s a shame he’s not a climate scientist, though.

  • @ Tony

    It’s a shame he’s not a climate scientist, though.

    Why ? Mainstream climate scientists have been consistently WRONG, always underestimating the rate of change.

    Atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations (CO2, CH4, N2O) highest in over 800,000 years by ice core data: current year still increasing.

    Rate of increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration: unprecedented ie has never been higher (IPCC). Rate of increase of CH4 and N2O also assumed to be unprecedented.

    Atmospheric CO2 concentration highest in 15 million years

    Ocean acidification highest in 15 million years and rate of acidification highest in 300 million years.

    Do this, what do you get ? Check the geological record. Mass extinction event.

  • If you look at the Mauna Loa CO2 graph, you can see with your bare eye the slight upward curve that is the telltale sign of the middle of a ‘hockey stick’ part of an exponential curve.

    This chart shows the historic timeline of CO2 and methane with the mindboggling increase of both gases in the last two hundred years vs 400,000 year+.

    I wish the chart was pulled apart a little more to give the full visual impact of what we humans have ‘accomplished’ as honorary Yeast in a Bottle of Sugar (YIBS)

    Notice the top (Red) curve, which is global temperature, it has NOT reacted yet to the bottom two input curves, CO2 (Blue) and Methane (Purple)

    Just imagine the effect, not if, but WHEN the temperature catches up.

    The previous prehistoric CO2 spikes on the graph look roughly like they took at least 20,000 years to manifest, our present spike is two and a half times higher than all of them and it took just two centuries!

    Reading other sites and discussion boards, the whole ‘geo-engineering thing’ is inevitable.

    How about some thoughts on how that enterprise will fare.

    Like a bigger version of the Hurricane Katrina ‘rescue’ effort by the federal government?

    It’s hard to believe of a more F.U.B.A.R. situation.

  • @Gail says “So what evidence is there?”

    Sigh. You too have grown tired of repeatedly referencing links to support your various points, so I’m going to merely restate there are countless references to various acts/laws validating the ability of the state to initiate a wide range of “security” measures by both executive order and/or assumption of military control.

    These powers include, but are certainly not limited to, general conscription (now including both genders), requisition of (all) private property, implementation of travel restrictions, forced rationing, wage/price controls and of course limits on speech/assembly. To make it easy, imagine Nazi Germany and/or the US during WWII (you know, the forced relocation of 80,000 were nisei, etc).

    Under this kind of scenario, are you, KathyC, et al seriously suggesting that stored spent fuel rods are really an issue, with by a swipe of a pen, it can all finally be transported to Yucca Mtn? Global warming, with yet another simple act of resolution, the skies can be filled with enough debris to perhaps potentially initiate global cooling?

    I suspect your question is one driven by the continued sweet embrace of denial. Not of the substance of the science behind these various issues, but the lack of knowledge about how the world really operates. I’ve got a hint for you: do some travel in an ‘unstable’ region and/or war zone. It’s why Hedges got religion, and why others finally wake up and shake off the Soma.

  • B9K9, the stored rods in the spent fuel pools have to spend about 5 years there before they can be put in dry cask. The unusual configuration of the pools in Fukushima etc is to allow the rods to never be out of water between being pulled from the reactor to the spent fuel pool. The idea was to keep them there and then when they are not so “hot” put them in dry cask or other methods to then transport to permanent storage somewhere. However it costs about 1 million per dry cask. Per Arnie Gundersen they have been filling the spent fuel pools much fuller than intended to avoid the cost of the dry casks. This puts off the cost until decommissioning which then uses the money they have set aside for decommissioning rather than taking the money out of their bottom line.

    I imagine that the makers of dry cask storage are making at the rate of current usage and are not able to increase production suddenly. No matter how many swipes of the pen the powers that be might make, if there is a sudden need to get more fuel out of the spent fuel pools it won’t happen when the pen is swiped. Further there is a backlog of the transformers essential to our grid and most are not even made in the US. Thus if a solar flare were to wipe out some substantial portion of these transformers no swipe of the pen could make them magically appear. When the grid goes down so does the ability to pump gasoline. Likewise while hand pumps can do the job they would be in short supply as there is not much demand for them now. Yet repair of the grid would require gasoline. A large or total grid failure would mean that we would have one week of cooling in the reactors before meltdown. All the fuel in the reactor and any fuel in the spent fuel pool that is there less than 5 years could not be put in casks. The rest could, but how would you transport the casks to the nuclear plant when you can’t get gasoline. ETC ETC ETC. The Powers That Be are not gods or magicians.

    Even if we shut down all nuclear power plants today we cannot possibly make all the fuel safe for at least 5 years, and unless the dry cask or other methods of more permanent storage could be ramped up very very quickly it could take much much longer to get it all tucked away even if Yucca Mountain was finally approved. In the case of a sudden collapse of the grid from Solar Flare or EMP its all over.

    Given that TPTB are not shutting down nuclear power plants with great haste, and when they do they will likely use Safstor which takes 60 years, even the collapse from the lack of fuel will probably find us up shit creek when it comes to the nukes. Lets see; conventional oil has peaked, the best of the fracked oil has been extracted and newer fracked wells are depleting faster, the ERoRI on oil sands is declining, and Saudi Arabia output is probably peaked. So while the energy available to us is running out TPTB are going to allocate some of that energy to shut down nuclear energy. I don’t think so.

    No links, obviously documentation means nothing to you.

  • @ Daniel

    “Never underestimate…the projection of cynics in assuming critical thinking is broadly distributed throughout the Halls of Power. History is rife with how little was known by those who should have known better.”

    I’ve been trying to say this. Ignorance (including that of human psychology) and disconnectedness could be the reason for the mess we’re in. Of course, history can predict how people will act in a crisis. But then, since people have always been ignorant and disconnected, that underlying reality has shaped history as well.

  • Tony, I was surprised when Wasdell said that about temps – sometimes we hear about hottest and forget to see for what. 2012 was hottest – for continental US. I found this: “The year 2012 was the ninth warmest globally since record keeping began in 1880, said climate scientists today from NASA. NOAA, crunching the numbers slightly differently, said 2012 was the tenth warmest year, and both agencies said a warming pattern has continued since the middle of the 20th century.”

    But this would seem to confirm Wasdells statement–chart-prove-it.html

    Ulvfugl makes good points about him not being a climate scientist. Also he is free from the constraints of caution that keep many scientists from more dire predictions. This summer should tell us whether to listen to him or not. Actually last summer already showed us that the folks at Arctic Methane Emergency Group and Wasdell are more right than the more conservative spokespeople. I tend to listen to folks who have been right in the past. Usually works better

  • @ Kathy C.

    I have not checked Wasdell’s exact wording, but I know that David Rose Daily Mail claim, and I know it is junk.

    One thing to remember is that, often, when they talk about ‘warming’ they talk about the global average LAND temperature, or the temperature of the Troposphere. That gives a misleading impression, because it leaves out all the heat that has gone into melting the ice. That takes a lot of heat. And it leaves out all the heat that has gone into the oceans, warming the water. That takes a lot of heat.

    Have a look at the graph at this link. You can see how they cheat by using the blue lines. The true warming is the the long term trend which is the red line. Less that thirty years, although interesting, doesn’t really give any significant indication, because it’s still WEATHER, it’s noise, it’s influenced by all sorts of short term effects, like volcanoes, El Nino, La Nina, economic recessions, solar activity, etc, etc. To see the CLIMATE clearly means seeing the signal through all that noise, which means more than thirty years. So that’s the red line which has been going up steadily since the start of the industrial revolution. That’s the trend that really matters.

    Incidentally, this link might also pertain to Gail’s point because it shows how clueless the UK Environment Minister is about climate science. Are the rest of TPTB more knowledgeable ? I doubt it.

  • There is no recognized limit to the number of dogs (and cats, and people) you can love.

  • U – here is the PDF from the talk – see page 4

    Apologies for 3rd post. I will limit to 1 tomorrow

  • ulvfugl

    What’s your take on the geo-engineering buzz-buzz beginning to grip the edge of the mainstream Presstitute narrative.

    I’m hearing about it now from MSM sources that make me feel like it will be incorporated (pun intended) into the over all ‘extend & pretend – delay & defray’ strategy of make believe solutions offered to an over medicated scientifically illiterate public, much like toxic derivatives were used in the global financial fraud syndicate as an all purpose dumping ground for ‘things that won’t go away’ but maybe we can try This!

    It seems a great way to sooth the teeming hordes when Climate Reality sinks it’s teeth in and begins in earnest to destroy their neighborhoods, and livelihoods and cheap food supply.

    The geo-engineering batted around so far boils down to basically spraying particles in the atmosphere as a ‘dimming screen’. Not hi tech at all, any dummy with some planes can do it, but doesn’t it strike you as a ‘sealing in the juices’ move.

    It doesn’t address air pollution or ocean acidification or dying forests or changing ocean currents or marine die off….

    It will be sold as the Silver Bullet to cure the ‘climate problem’.

    Geo-engineering as Kinder Gentler version of Nuclear Winter or asteroid collision dust clouds or ‘control volcanic eruption simulations.

    The Ruling Reptiles are insane. They will try or do Anything, like geo-god-tinkering to keep their power and money flowing. Their cluelessness is distributed along a Bell Curve like most creatures, but they are not like the bulk of humanity.

    If you think we are all equally culpable for The Mess and it’s unfolding misery, then you obviously think most people wouldn’t hesitate to deliver a message like this to a fellow human.

    Your OverLords won’t even blink.

  • “Dogs’ lives are too short. Their only fault, really.”
    Agnes Sligh Turnbull

    So sorry to hear of your loss Guy. Our thoughts are with you.

  • ulvfugl

    I’m sure glad you are on the side of the planet, not that there may be sides in your way of seeing. Along with a few others, Guy included, need I say, you get the message about the data out loud and clear. Great job, IMO.


  • Guy, sorry about Savanna, she was a noble creature. Which really makes me wonder why our pets choose to be around such ignoble creatures as humans. maybe they just have poor taste or simply lack the ability to judge our true character. A friend of mine recently got a new kitten after having had a cat that lived for nearly two decades. I didn’t have the heart to tell her that this one will not live that long, and that neither would any other living thing.

  • B9K9, the scenarios you describe are certainly plausible but in no way certain. I suspect that to all the dozens of crises we face there will be myriad responses overlain with other responses; some with stick, many won’t. To suggest that a government can control its population effectively for any significant period of time is contrary to the bulk of human experience of which I’m familiar. One notable exception that comes to mind is North Korea. However, I suspect that they are able to maintain their control because of the input from their powerful neighbor to the north and west. That will be the primary difference in the future. Available energy is already falling off a cliff and governments won’t be getting handouts from anyone. Control of the sort you describe requires lot and lots of energy. That’s what we don’t have and will have less and less of every year.

    But it’s more than that. What you describe is possible and perhaps likely if you’re talking about one or two major crises, but when you compound energy decline with widespread catastrophes that keep coming and don’t ever stop from climate chaos, crop failures, grid failure, water scarcity, catastrophe ad nauseam, then the likelihood of any sustained government seems unlikely, let alone government action and control.