Two Events in Chico, California

A presentation delivered at Butte College in Chico, California from 19 November 2014 is embedded below. Below it is video from a community conversation held the day before, also in Chico..

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  • Shep,

    On December 17th, 2014 at 8:02 pm in your comment to FriedrichKling you wrote quotes that you later attributed to Noam Chomsky. Will you please provide details of the source, the book title, interview, web link, newspaper article, or whatever, including the date, so that I can take a look at it? Given that you have previously so often and so badly misunderstood and misrepresented what others wrote, I feel curious about the context and what he actually said or wrote.

  • Fantastic videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If anyone genuinely wants to know the truth, these two will explain everything and I will then share them.

    I’m wondering if it makes any difference. My own opinion is that I’m glad the reality is what it is…so the answer to my one Q. is: NO.

    For me, finally, justice will rain on the just and the unjust.

  • Paul Chefurka,

    Thanks for providing a source for one of the quotes. (I find it interesting that you have provided it, and not Shep.) Two points after reading it: (1) The quote is almost 15 years old, thus likely making it irrelevant for the social situation in Columbia today. (2) I do not see how this quote significantly contradicts anything that FriedrichKling wrote, nor do I see how it presumably supports anything that Shep wrote in some significant way. Have I missed something? It seems to me an irrelevant distraction. Perhaps Shep will provide the source of the other quote?

  • For the life of me I cannot believe the ignorance and pomposity of some people on this blog. (Each of you know who was absolutely correct.) Goooooooood Daaaaaaaamn!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dr. McPherson,


    “Warming of a large swarth of the oceans?”


    This seems to tie in with your pointing out that it is very difficult to warm the depth of the oceans but we as the global human body has indeed done so and it is irreversible.

    Can you give some long term projections in regards to the coming decades about this finding, especially for U.S. Africa and Europe?

    I had asked earlier, but during your presentation do you have any photos or short videos of the Methane release in the artic growing from meters to kilometers?

  • Queenie Child, I’ve no relevant footage. Sorry.

    According to an essay posted at Skeptical Science today, this will be the warmest year in history. I’m not surprised Europe is warm, too, or that it’s being attributed to the ocean.

    If this year churns out an El Nino event, land-surface temperatures will rise at least 1 C. Beyond this year, I’ve no comments beyond the long essay.

  • Thank you, Bud. Your comments are spot-on.


    He acquired the property through possession. Possession and title are two entirely different constructs. They are not synonyms. The stupidity of some people is stunning.

    “The property was acquired through a legal process known as “possession” whereby the land owner constructs linderos to establish property boundaries and builds a home to establish a physical presence. Title exists for only a small percentage of the land in Colombia because it’s an expensive undertaking for the average person.”

    Now let’s analyze your quotes:

    You claim the US effectively controls Colombia (by the way take note of the proper spelling of Colombia, not Columbia). The country’s representatives are elected through a series of national, departmental, and local elections. In May of this year, the pro-US drug war candidate was resoundingly defeated by a center left candidate.

    You claim peasants are being driven off of their land through a secret US sponsored program. That’s funny, the Colombian federal government has a policy of repatriating the campasinos (you or Noam does not know how to spell this word). Thus far millions of hectares have been turned over.

    You claim the FARC guerillas appeal to large segments of the population. COMPLETE BULLSHIT, which explains why the guerillas are engaged in peace talks with the government. Just last month, a band of guerillas attacked an indigenas community in the Cauca Department. Big mistake. These indians are not passive and do not tolerate intervention. A war party was sent out with poison dart guns and arrows to kill and
    capture the guerillas. After killing half of the group, the other guerillas surrendered. The indians want to meek out their form of justice and the government wants to bring
    them to trial.

    You have not a clue what you are taking about. All you can do is parrot some antiquated left-wing propaganda.

  • One last point I previously failed to address…….Shep states, “he has the means to do enclosures (ring any bells – Lord Travelyn), BUT he takes a measly $6/acre. Hummmmm.”

    I said “linderos” are required, not “enclosures”. Since you fail to understand the definition of “lindero”, allow me to clarify. A lindero is nothing more than a boundary marker. You ASSumed an extensive system of fences, which is entirely erroneous.

    And Mr. Bud Nye, the Science Guy, is entirely correct that the quotations you cited have no bearing at all in supporting your claim, “drug lords function quite well.” You puled two random quotes in a feeble attempt to CYA.

    In the future restrain yourself from misinterpreting the comments of others. Instead seek further clarification in a non-aggressive and non-threatening manner. Otherwise you appear as a buffoon.

    Case closed.

  • Friedrich – nice to see you back! Congratulations on your work!

    NASA’s carbon dioxide satellite mission returns first global maps
    [take a look]

    NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO-2) has returned its first global maps of the greenhouse gas CO2.

    The satellite was sent up in July to help pinpoint the key locations on the Earth’s surface where carbon dioxide is being emitted and absorbed.

    This should help scientists better understand how human activities are influencing the climate.

    The new maps contain only a few weeks of data in October and November, but demonstrate the promise of the mission.

    Clearly evident within the charts is the banding effect that describes how emitted gases are mixed by winds along latitudes rather than across them.

    Also apparent are the higher concentrations over South America and southern Africa. These are likely the result of biomass burning in these regions.

    It is possible to see spikes, too, on the eastern seaboard of the US and over China. These probably include the additional emissions of CO2 that come from industrialisation.


    Humans add something like 40 billion tonnes of the gas to the atmosphere every year, principally from the burning of fossil fuels.

    But the ultimate destination of this carbon dioxide is uncertain. About half is thought to be absorbed into the oceans, with the rest pulled down into land “sinks”. [there’s more]

    Where is All the ‘Missing’ Plastic? At the Bottom of the Ocean, Study Finds

    ‘The deep sea floor could be the ultimate resting ground for the products of our disposable society,’ researcher says

    Billions of tiny plastic fragments have accumulated in the deep sea, finds a new study published this week in the journal Royal Society Open Science, raising concerns about the organisms that live there, such as coral and bottom-of-the-food-chain invertebrates.

    In an attempt to find evidence of “missing” plastic debris—unaccounted for microplastic waste that should, given our “throw-away culture,” be more abundant in the world’s oceans—scientists looked at samples of sediment and coral retrieved from 16 sites in the Mediterranean Sea, the North Atlantic Ocean, and southwestern Indian Ocean.


    “The prevalence of plastic microfibers in all sediment cores and on all coral colonies examined suggests this contaminant is ubiquitous in the deep sea,” the paper reads. “Furthermore, the wide variety of polymer types detected reveals that the accumulation and deposition of microfibers in the deep sea is complex and that they arise from a variety of domestic and industrial sources.”

    It continues:

    Microplastic, in the form of fibers, was up to four orders of magnitude more abundant (per unit volume) in deep-sea sediments from the Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea and Indian Ocean than in contaminated sea-surface waters. Our results show evidence for a large and hitherto unknown repository of microplastics. The dominance of microfibers points to a previously underreported and unsampled plastic fraction. Given the vastness of the deep sea and the prevalence of microplastics at all sites we investigated, the deep-sea floor appears to provide an answer to the question—where is all the plastic? [read it all]

  • the amazonian drought and russian heat wave were the same year.

    here’s my amazon book review:

    This Changes Nothing
    by Nairobi Klein
    I was having a dump the other day, when looked down in the bowl, i saw an auto-morphic fecal face that was the poopleganger of me staring back at myself, I knew in my heart that capitalistic turd was me.

    some scary stuff I made up for truth out today:

    Corn uses more water,and is more susceptible to heat and drought, than any other crop. If it gets too hot, it will not pollinate. If the Russian heat wave of 2010 happened over the U.S., the whole world would go hungry. Every degree of temperature rise will raise moisture in the air by 8%, leading to more extreme weather. What are we doing?
    ► We put bacteria DNA directly into plant DNA and eat it, putting new RNA inside us.
    ► We put brand new, man-made, computer designed, synthetic DNA into our food.
    ► We put nano metals and particles in our food so small they fly through our cell walls.
    ► We put pesticides and herbicides directly into individual food cells and eat it.
    ► There are thousands of different chemicals in our foods washing out our guts.
    ► We are eating stuff that never existed on earth before, turning us into mutants.
    ► 10,000 years ago, humans and livestock were 0.01% of land vertebrate biomass.
    ► Humans and livestock are now 97% of land vertebrate biomass.
    ► We both eat nearly 50% of land chlorophyll biomass production each year.
    ► 1,000,000 humans, net, are added to earth every 4½ days.
    ► We are eating all of earth’s food, leaving nothing for the wildlife.
    ► 50% of vertebrate species died off in the last 50 years.
    ► 50% of remaining vertebrate species will die off in the next 40 years.
    ► +50% = Unstoppable Irreversible Catastrophic Cascading Extinctions Collapse.
    ► 75% Species Loss = Mass Extinction.
    ► Ocean acidification doubles by 2050, triples by 2100. This will kill ocean food.
    ► World Bank says we have 5-10 years before we all fight for food and water.
    ► 97% of Tigers gone since 1914.
    ► 90% of Big Ocean Fish gone since 1950.
    ► 90% of Lions gone since 1993.
    ► 90% of Monarch Butterflies gone since 1995.
    ► 75% of River & Riverbank Species gone since 1970. 75,000 dams block U.S. rivers.
    ► 50% of Great Barrier Reef gone since 1985.
    ► 50% of Human Sperm Counts gone since 1950.
    ► 50% of Fresh Water Fish gone since 1987.
    ► 40% of Giraffes gone since 2000.
    ► 30% of Marine Birds gone since 1995.
    ► 28% of Land Animals gone since 1970.
    ► 28% of All Marine Animals gone since 1970.
    ► 93 Elephants killed every single day.
    ► 2-3 Rhinos killed every single day.
    ► Bees die from malnutrition lacking bio-diverse pollen sources making colonies more susceptible to disease and poisoning.
    ► 200 years ago, there used to be more Green Sea Turtles, by weight, in the Caribbean Sea than there were Buffalo on the great plains, both species are now almost gone. There are more Siberian Tigers in zoos than in the wild.
    ► 200 years ago, there used to be so many Passenger Pigeons that the mid-day sun would be totally blocked out when huge flocks of them flew by. Passenger Pigeons have been extinct for 100 years now. We used to feed them to our dogs, they were so cheap. Humans and dogs don’t live long enough to notice these things much.

    We are just getting started. Soon, earth will enter a planetary state shift and will be unable to provide basic ecological services for us like breathing and eating. Sorry for spoiling your meal, I just thought, maybe, you should know what is going on and what we are really doing. But, don’t listen to me, I never graduated high school.

  • feel free to use anything i send
    better than all for nothing anyhow

  • Revisiting Mark Lynas’ book “6 Degrees”, comparing relevant temperature increases to the historical geologic record in order to get a bearing on our trajectory after Tasneem Essop, climate strategist for World Wildlife Fund stated last week on the failure of Lima, that the world is headed straight for 3-4 degrees C warming. Equivalent to the 55 million year old

    — Spain, Italy, Greece become deserts, with climate akin to southern Algeria or Morocco. Perhaps they can convert to agriculture based on on Saguarjo cactus farming. See Percy Shelly

    — Global sea levels half a meter or more above current levels. Mumbai, Shanghai, Alexandria, Boston, New York, London and Venice threatened. “Will only be saved if huge amounts of money are ploughed into new and ever-higher defences against floods.”

    — — “Uncertainties here are great: if the Antarctic ice sheets remain stable, much can probably be salvaged in a slow and measured retreat. If, on the other hand, the great ice sheets continue to respond rapidly to climate change-as they are already doing now – many meters of rapid sea level rise are on the cards.”

    — End of the Atlantic jet stream.

    — “Heatwaves of undreamt-of ferocity will scorch the Earth’s surface as the climate becomes hotter than anything humans have experienced before throughout their whole evolutionary history.”

    — Spreading deserts around the Amazon.

    — Daily summer temperatures in Basel, Geneva and central Europe approaching 48C – 118F.

    — “Glacial disappearance in the Alps”

    — Summer temps in London of 45C – 115F

    — Scandinavia, England, Canada, Siberia inundated with climate refugees.

    — Australia, Southwestern US, central America, lower South American cone probably in permanent drought.

    — Only the interior part of Scandinavia’s far north still receiving reliable winter snows

    — Caspian Sea projected to drop in level by nearly 10 metres, lower than it has been for at least 25 centuries

    — Phil Camill says, if just 1 per cent of this potential carbon reservoir (permafrost degradation and thawing releasing methane) were decomposed each year in a warmer world, ‘it would be as if we doubled our current rate of emissions’.

    — “In this scenario, if we reach three degrees, that could lead inexorably to four degrees, which in turn could lead inexorably to five.”.

    — Arctic water temperatures approaching 28C – 82F.

    — Polar Arctic ocean entirely unfrozen.

    — Deep ocean turns anoxic, poisonous to oxygen-breathing life.

    — “Sea level rise will already have turned many coastal cities into wave-battered ghost towns.”

    — “Rising waters will continue to inundate the land for centuries to come, driving out agriculture from low-lying plains like the Nile, Yangtze and Ganges deltas.”

    — “Tropics too hot to support most food crops and the subtropics out of production due to perennial drought.”

    — “Large-scale, developed human society would no longer be sustainable.”

    — Offshore methane hydrate releases and activity in the greatly warmed ocean causing gigantic underwater earthquakes and sediment shifts. Resulting in regular tsunamis 10s of meters high, making coastal settlements (where 80% of human population lives now) all but impossible.


    As has been prophesied, 3-4 degrees is all but the endgame. “We’ve Never had humans on a planet 3.5 degrees above baseline.” Now you can see why. Enjoy your driving, flying, meat eating, electricity usage and general stupidity. Remember – you and all your friend ~have to~, ~got to~, ~need to~, ~must~ do it.

    It’s all downhill from here.

  • Friedrich Kling – Profile 12-19-2014

    Despises Fidel Castro
    Thinks the Palestinians deserve what they get. They are the problem.
    Loves Ronald Reagan and his drugs for arms approach.
    Dislikes Obama because he is a lefty and for all the wrong reasons
    Free market devotee.
    Likes Ayn Rand.
    A ‘Libertarian’.
    Buys into the ‘Noble Savages’ theme.
    Dislikes Black Panthers.
    Is ‘religious’.
    Likes Rene Descartes’ scientific view of animals.
    Dislikes Labor Unions.
    Believes ‘voting’ is useful.

    Case closed.

  • Bodeco song “Suicide Ride”. My friend Ricky Feather on guitar and vocals

  • Today’s “more than expected” contribution:

    Squirrels and beavers contributing to global warming more than previously thought

    UK Telegraph

    Arctic ground squirrels churn up and warm soil in the Tundra, releasing carbon dioxide, while methane released by beavers contributes 200 times more methane than they did 100 years ago, scientists say

    Rodents such as squirrels and beavers are contributing far more to global warming than previously thought, forcing climate scientists to alter the models they use to chart how the world is warming up.

    Arctic ground squirrels churn up and warm soil in the Tundra, releasing carbon dioxide, while methane released by beavers contributes 200 times more methane than they did 100 years ago, according to scientists from the American Geophysical Union.

    Faeces and urine produced by rodents are speeding up the release of carbon from the permafrost, the vast store of greenhouses spanning the Arctic Circle, researchers found.

    Dr Sue Natali, from the AGU, said “We know wildlife impacts vegetation, and we know vegetation impacts thaw and soil carbon.

    “It certainly has a bigger impact than we’ve considered and it’s something we will be considering more and more going into the future.”

    Dr Natali added: “Carbon has been accumulating in permafrost for tens of thousands of years. The temperature is very cold, the soils are saturated, so that when plants and animals die, rather than decompose, the carbon has been slowly, slowly building up.

    “Right now the carbon storage is about 1,500 billion tonnes. To put that in perspective, that’s about twice as much as is contained in the atmosphere.”

    As part of the Polaris Project, Dr Natali, from Woods Hole Research Center in Massachusetts, and Nigel Golden, from the University of Wisconsin travelled to Siberia to study the underground burrows of arctic squirrels.

    The team found that this activity meant that the burrows were warmer than the surrounding ground, while nitrogen that the squirrels were adding to the ground through their waste was also having an impact.

    Beavers, meanwhile, have dammed up more than 16,200 square miles of ponds. A separate paper, published in the journal AMBIO, found that beavers are responsible for releasing around 881,000 tons of methane into the atmosphere each year, much more cud-chewing animals such as deer or antelope.

    It means scientists will in the future have to alter their theories around anthropogenic, or man-made, climate change to take account of ‘rodentopogenic’ influences, scientists told Mail Online.

    A paper by Dr Natali and Dr Golden, to be presented to the AGU, says: “While this fertiliser can counteract greenhouse gas loss by causing plants to grow, which then soak up carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, it can also feed microbes in the soil, accelerating the amount of carbon dioxide and methane – both greenhouse gases – that are being released.”

    on the economic/political front:

    More Rectal Rehydration

    Rectal rehydration of the American people took various forms. Josh Silver of wrote up a nice summary at The Huffington Post.

    Here’s 5 of the most awful [provisions attached to the bill] — everything from crazily wasteful spending to putting taxpayers back on the hook to bail out the largest banks.


    [read what Dave C has to say about it all – he left #3 out of his article]

  • Extinction is just around the corner, and still we behave like children.
    Is it any wonder that extinction is just around the corner?

  • @ Paul Chefurka Says:
    December 19th, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Concise and to the point, I like it! :)

  • The stampede is underway:

    Permanent migration inward was strong in November. Migration added 22,500 people to Auckland’s population in the year to November. We now have a situation where 134 more people arrived permanently from Australia than left for the luck country. The trend is building fast. Now commentators are speculating that net migration could peak at +60,000 in 2015. (The current equivalent rate that Australia is getting is about 35,000 pa.)’

  • Robert Callaghan:
    “feel free to use anything i send”

    I still say you should write a post (not just a comment) for NBL listing all the informaion and as many references as you find: Dr. McPherson could list it as a reference in similar to the climate update.

  • I agree with Robin.

    Robert, your list would be much more powerful with links to, ideally, scientific articles.

    BTW, Not bad for an uneducated man ;)

  • I’ll add my support for the above requests from RD and MMM for a substantive “main post” from Mr. Callaghan, who is obviously more “educated” than he admits. After all, one’s “education” occurs due to a willingness and desire to learn and an institutionalized setting or “program” of coursework is most certainly NOT required!! I applaud Mr. Callaghan’s posting of relevant, even important, information and I would be willing to assist him in organizing and composing an article for publication here, if that is desired. Otherwise, please, Mr. Callaghan, do NOT feel “obligated” to do anything more than your inclination deems “appropriate.” As most here are aware, the “cake is baked” and, as Guy so profoundly espouses, we’re in a time in which fame, status and wealth, or pursuing such, has become irrelevant. Do what you enjoy for as long as you are able as that time gets shorter everyday.

    As an aside, Guy, the inclusion of the “gaming commercial” showing a newborn “launched” from it’s mother and sailing through the air as it ages is absolutely priceless! MstrCrd can suck it! As R.A. Heinlein’s Lazarus Long “said,” in Time Enough for Love, “Moderation is for monks. Life’s too short, take big bites.”

  • Mrs. Kling,

    You are so stupid it makes me wonder now what the hell you have done to the poor man Alphonso. What the hell are u doing with his land – all 8,000 – acres of it!
    You have cheated the man just like Uribe and Santos would have done and made up some f***ing story to make it sound like you are giving him more money than he has ever seen. Somehow u have tricked the guy. Shame on you!

    What now? Are u going to hide in the Southern Cone with your fluent spanish with an accent where the warming is supposed to be less on YOUR plantation? F**k you, you creepy bastard.

    I told u something was fishy. You lie something terrible.

    Santos, Uribe and Zaluba (or whatever his name is) are all right wing sadists. Santos was Uribe’s Defense Minister. They were partner’s ass-hole. It is a fix just like Obama was. He promised CHANGE like ALL candidates do. Santos agreed to talk to the FARC because all the poor people are for the communists and so far he is sort of half ass doing that but watch out cause he will put a stiletto in ur back faster than you can say “Please don’t”.

    Wiki on Santos:

    Santos is a member of the wealthy and influential Santos family,…where he also attended the London School of Economics and Political Science. (AYN RAND STUFF)

    Colombia is in the same grips of right-wing maniacs as this country. The political parties are ALL reactionary right-wing organizations and therefore votes do not count. Uribe is a violent elite. Santos is just as Elite, maybe even more so. They are cut from the same cloth (read the two descriptions just above for Christ’s sake), so, I do not know where you get this liberal slant. Santos ran on “change”. Isn’t that interesting! So did Obama and every other politician that has ever gained office. Does anything EVER change! Hell No.

    Here is some more reading for your closed mind:


    “…No matter where you looked on June 16, the day after the reelection of rightwing president Juan Manuel Santos…Santos hinged his campaign on completing peace negotiations with the FARC, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, the oldest and largest Marxist guerrilla group in Latin America, while his opponent, Óscar Iván Zuluaga, presented himself as a hardline opponent of any concessions to the guerrillas.”

    “…what has really helped shift Colombia towards peace negotiations is the different background of Santos. Uribe came from the landed provincial oligarchy; he sold his family’s land after his father was killed by the Farc in a failed kidnapping in 1983, and dedicated his life to politics, though maintaining ties to his cattle-ranching origins. As well as representing large landowners, he is believed to have ties to drug lords and paramilitary forces: a 1991 US Defense Intelligence Agency report described Uribe as working for the Medellin Cartel (Medellin is his hometown and he briefly served as its mayor) and as a “close personal friend of Pablo Escobar” (2). When he was Colombia’s director of civil aviation in the 1980s, the number of permits for runways and planes increased dramatically. In 2007 Escobar’s lover, Virginia Vallejo, told El País: “Pablo used to say that if it weren’t for that blessed little boy [Uribe], we would have to swim to Miami to get drugs to the gringos” (3).

    It is hard to find someone more enmeshed in Colombia’s political and economic elite than Santos, but his is a different elite. His great uncle, Eduardo Santos, was president from 1938 to 1942 and his cousin was vice president under Uribe. His family owned the only national newspaper, El Tiempo, for nearly a century and his father was its editor for half that time. Santos was educated abroad, studying at the University of Kansas, Harvard, London School of Economics and Tufts. He took his first government job in his 20s as Colombia’s delegate to the International Coffee Organisation in London. From 1991 he went on to hold various government posts, most recently that of defence minister under Uribe. He was elected president in June 2010.

  • h/t to Colin & BtD

    A Seat At The Table

    Nibbling at the edges of life
    At the buffet near the end of the night
    Moderation is for monks
    Knowing that we’re are sunk
    Living life taking big, delicious bites!

    And a musical offering (tried to find a live video version, but I think the song was recorded too close to his murder)…

  • Tom,
    Looks like we’ll have to start a campaign to get rid of all those damned Arctic ground squirrels and Beavers that are causing so much trouble with the climate.(joke)

  • Screw all the warmed-climate beavers, Arctic ground squirrels and colombians.

  • Why do people use the term CLIMATE CHANGE? What happened to GLOBAL WARMING? Who is responsible for changing the language? Who owns the language owns the thoughts. So I ask again: what happened to GLOBAL WARMING? And whad’ya know we see the shift of media focus to crazy weather events and away from the catastrophic warming.

    These Haarp antennae arrays and SB-X transmitters are shredding the atmosphere causing UV-B levels to rocket off the chart. There is weather warfare going on for Christ’s sake and no one here is talking about it!! WTF!!

    Guess it’s the fluoride calcifying pineal glands.

  • Guy says: “Liberation”.

    Thats the word I was thinking of for the second go round! The first was compassion.

    But what a perfect final word.

  • Hi Tom,

    Thank you for your greeting, and I am happy to see you are continuing to disseminate compelling information.

    Keep-up the great work, brother!

  • Maybe I’m understanding you guys here in the comments better, But it’s fun when you are on the same page. very good information thanks! Oh ya we are Fucked

  • Here is an article “Why Is Near Term Human Extinction Inevitable?
    By Robert J. Burrowes

    “What does the expression ‘near term human extinction’ mean? In
    essence, according to those scientists who use the term, it means that
    human beings will be extinct by about 2030…Why 2030? Because, according to McPherson, the ‘perfect storm’ of environmental assaults that we are now inflicting on the Earth…”

    And Burrowes goes on to quote the notorious, sanctimonious and rather shrill Scott K. Johnson grad student fractalplanet article, which is now 10 long months out of date. But hey, that won’t stop detractors of the good doctor since it is just about the only shredded rag they have left to cling to. I fully expect this Johnson article to be shared continuously as “proof” refuting McPherson until we’re well over the cliff.

    Here is the Global Research Michael Welch interview with Paul Beckwith and Dahr Jamail

    I think there is not much doubt that Columbia is a US puppet state. Clear and simple. Panama was stolen straight up from Colombian territory by the gringo genociders when they needed a speedway for shipping. US military Stan Goff who served in Columbia several years said “Without the [US funded and backed] Colombian military, the FARC EP would be running that country”…Or British activist Mark Thomas who details how US corporate terror death squads hunt and kill union activists and community people he knows personally. Or my prof friend from upstate New York who teaches a class called The Economics of War and keeps a laundry list of budget busting Plan Columbia expenditures. None of this is controversial. Bolivar would puke at what Columbia has become. How and why this Columbia business appeared on these threads is beyond me.

  • Economic forecast:

    Paul Craig Roberts Stunning 2015 Predictions – At Any Time The West Can Collapse


    Eric King: “Dr. Roberts, what are your predictions for 2015? What surprises are in front of us next year?”

    “To have a bond market in which the purchasers of bonds have to pay a fee in order to have a negative real interest rate makes no sense. When you buy a bond you are automatically getting back less than you paid for it. What sense does that make when the United States’ debt is exploding and when the money supply is exploding? It makes no sense at all. No American markets make any sense — they’re (all) rigged.

    I think (in 2015) the world will start to see the realignment of power as it drifts away from the West toward Russia, China, India, the BRICs, and the states who ally with them such as South American countries who are tired of American imperialism. You will see a shift in the balance of power that will be unfavorable to Washington.”

    Eric King: “Dr. Roberts, is 2015 the year that the gold price manipulation will end?”

    Dr. Roberts: “What will end it will be when the West runs out of gold to deliver. When the Federal Reserve and the bullion banks artificially suppress the price of gold it causes a greater quantity (of physical gold to be) demanded. So as they push down the gold price, the demand for gold in China, India, and Russia, goes up. At what point will they (the Western central banks) be unable to make delivery?
    There has been a lot of speculation that the Fed used up the Fort Knox gold a long time ago. And more speculation they have used up the other countries gold that was deposited with them for safekeeping, such as Germany’s gold.

    They (the Federal Reserve) can’t give Germany its gold back. Why? The speculation is they’ve used it up (as part of the gold price rigging scheme). So if there are no stocks (of gold) to fill the gap between falling production and rising demand because of the low price, then at some point the system simply can’t make delivery. When that happens is when it (the Western Ponzi scheme) falls apart.”

    [more in the following article]

    Dr. Roberts: “I was listening to the news today and there were all these self-righteous people just happy as all get out that they had finally stomped Russia into the ground and ‘Russia is now finished,’ and Russia was broken and ‘would soon be an American vassal state where it belongs.’ And I was listening to this rot and got to thinking, ‘How can people be so utterly stupid?’ But they are, and they are just as stupid in Washington.

    “Suppose the Russian government says, ‘Well, since the attack on the ruble is political and you guys are attacking the ruble and causing us so much trouble, we are just going to not pay off the next traunch of our debt that comes due early in 2015.

    Well, the European banking system would collapse because those banks are terribly undercapitalized. Some of them have loans to Russia that almost absorb the entire capital base. So the Russians don’t even have to default. They can just say, ‘We’re not going to pay this year. We will do it later. We’ll do it when the ruble stabilizes.’ (Laughter).

    You can understand the impact of such a decision by the Russians on the West. And given all the linkages and the interconnections — when Lehman Brothers went down it had just about as much adverse affect on Europe as it did the United States.

    What would come from that? Who knows? There are all kinds of derivatives and credit default swaps everywhere. We know these derivatives now are some multiple of the world’s Gross Domestic Product. And nobody really knows who all the counterparties are. If the European banks start going down, who knows what the impact on this pile of derivatives would be? But the whole Western system is a house of cards. It’s not based on anything other than market manipulation. So it doesn’t take much of a push to knock it down.

    The biggest black swan of all, Eric, if the Russians get thoroughly angry, all they have to do is call up the European governments and say, ‘We no longer sell natural gas or any other form of energy to members of NATO.’ The consequence would be the utter and total collapse of NATO. Not even a puppet state like Germany is going to let the people freeze to death, let the factories be closed down, and let the unemployment rate hit 40 percent. It’s just not going to happen — it would be the end of NATO.

    So whenever the Russians want to destroy NATO, that’s all they have to do. Just call up the puppet Merkel, call up the puppet Hollande, the puppet Cameron, and say, ‘You guys really enjoy being in NATO, well let me tell you what, we no longer sell energy to NATO members.’ That’s the end of NATO and that’s the end of the cover for American power.

    That would set off so many black swans. Every banking system would probably collapse because if the German banks are faced with German industry closing down, what the hell is going to happen to the banks? So all the cards are in Putin’s hands. None of them are in Washington’s hands. Putin is going to reorient Russia to the East. Then you are going to see Russia, India, and China, take over the leadership of the world. That will start in 2015.”

  • @ Dave Thompson Thanks for that link. Some terrific stuff there.

  • Shep,

    I feel curious to know what you hope to accomplish with your disrespectful, inappropriate attacking and attempts to insult FrederichKling and others. I could, of course, try to read your mind and guess what you intend, but because I have found myself wrong so often, several decades ago I decided to stop doing that kind of guessing and instead to ask directly. Thus my question to you. Please help me and others to understand what you hope to accomplish with your comments designed to insult FrederichKling and others. Regarding this, I have copied here the one paragraph Respectful Interaction section of our Tacoma Extinction Support Group Agenda”:

    “Respectful interaction: During our meetings and in other communication we intend this group democratically to give equal time and power to all opinions, including all religious and non-religious orientations, whether we agree with each other or not. People who stay with this group will surely need to have a high tolerance for openness, flexibility, honesty, and respectful, non-violent dialog, including active listening and empathy. We have an important, fundamental rule: no one will insult another person’s character, nor use abusive language in their speaking or writing.”

    We would tolerate your behavior for only a few minutes in our meetings, and for only a few words in our email. Now, will you help us to understand what you hope to accomplish with your attacks and attempts to insult others?

  • I apologize for the misspelling. I meant FriedrichKling in my previous comment.

  • Mr Nye,

    Okay, i’ll take a stab at your sincerity, even tho it sounds like u must agree with the poor man about the reality of the best controlled US South American client state.

    Wester has pointed out that, “I think there is not much doubt that Columbia is a US puppet state…”. Actually, even Wester made an error because there is: NO doubt…”.

    Your friend Kling is evidently extremely ignorant about Columbia yet he lives there now, apparently, is ‘fluent’ in Spanish, and yet speaks like a modern day WHITE conquistador. He denies ANYTHING I throw at him and turns or ignores (mostly) every statement of fact that is provided. This is terrifying. This is what politicians do all the time. They refuse to listen to the lowest of the low.

    Stay with me now and respond to this very short, singular complaint. Let’s see if we can have a conversation?

    {Sorry, Wester, Kling brought it up telling all how much good he has done by apparently tricking an old man in the good old white way.}

    You might too (this is point number two) give me some info about Mr Kling and the whys of his endeavors in Colombia. I think I remember it might have to do with establishing get out of harm’s way places to flee?

    Your turn.

  • Shep,

    Yes, I definitely have sincere concerns and questions. Apparently you did not understand my question so I will ask it again: Will you help me and others to understand what you hope to accomplish with your attempting to insult others? To phrase my question in different words, in some other ways: How do you see ad hominem attacks, calling people names, and attempting to insult them as helping to promote communication and understanding between people? How do you see doing these things as somehow reducing hostility between people instead of increasing it? Do you have the goal, here, of maximizing anger and hostility among the people who comment here? If so, why? For what purpose? Do you consider maximizing hostility among people as helpful during the collapse now well underway? If so, how? If I have understood him correctly, the ad hominem attacking processes that you and some others use here so often work in direct OPPOSITION TO the kinds of processes that Guy advocates, so, again, what, exactly, do you wish to accomplish by behaving in ways opposite those that Guy appears strongly to prefer?

  • B.N.,

    Well, our conversation is bogged already. Nothing has been decided.

    I *thought* my response gave you plenty to work with and that it would generate an answer on ur part? U did not understand my answer tho so, I’ll try again, so I expect the circle dance will continue. Is that an insult or an observation?

    I’m not trying to insult anyone.

    Now, can u please tell me why Kling is APPARENTLY so ill-advised (that better?) on Colombia?

  • Nye,

    A simple solution is to ignore my comments. Play like they aren’t there. Can u do that?

  • major corral die off coming this year because of warm oceans, could be worse than the 98 one.

    i feel bad when commenters fight, but morbid fascination always yields a laugh.

    will get on the link backed factoid bomb. thanx one n all.

  • Common Hour: Ocean Apocalypse Now

    Jeremy Jackson, November 20, 2014, Franklin & Marshall College with h/t to Gail Zawacki at Wit’s End.

  • any encouraging/positive discussion of suicide is like the biggest taboo. here’s a feral thought: could ‘authority”s determination to suppress this topic… perhaps their self interest in the matter isn’t for our welfare, but rather, their bottom line. more wage slaves/consumers, more moolah for them. similarly to the quote below i just took from a youtube comment re. the suppression of profoundly mind altering drugs being about social control. i haven’t bothered to fact check the quote: it sounds valid to me:

    “Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.”- Terence McKenna

    talking about illicit drug use for the very purpose of altering one’s mind profoundly (including hopefully shedding fear of death): that’s another big taboo. freedom from lies and fear?! holy crap! that’s surreal freedom. that shit no doubt scares ‘authorities’ 1/2 to death. without deceit and intimidation, they have no recourse but to resort to brute coercion/violence to control, a more difficult/dangerous path.

    i want to lose my fear of death and ‘authority’, as well as get out of a rut of despair/alienation/isolation i’ve been in for what seems forever. too bad i don’t live in a society that actually encouraged and facilitated mind alteration/’expansion’ as a means to wisdom, or the quest of it. i could just ask around to find someone as a guide/facilitator. a good ole pagan shaman perhaps!

    no such luck, it seems. sigh.

    i wonder if an ‘intelligence’ agent for some ‘authority’ like uncle sammy actively monitors/reads this horribly subversive guy mcpherson blog. who knows? maybe who cares? they haven’t shut it down yet, or put the smack down on any of it’s participants, to my knowledge. perhaps in the future, we’ll all be on a list of potential ‘terrorists’ or whatever to be rounded up and dealt with… perhaps in a future in which ‘authorities’ will seize upon almost any excuse to persecute and maintain or try to maintain control in a chaotically collapsing society.

    big sigh. overcoming fear can’t come soon enough.

  • I don’t think TPTB care much about this blog. They don’t care about anything we are concerned about. This is what they care about:

    Our friend RE makes it a little clearer. The clip from “The Untouchables” makes it even more clear:

    Since currency is what flows, the blood of the beast, will this financial war strangle the beast?


    Dodging Extinction: Power, Food, Money, and the Future of Life on Earth
    Aug 15 2014
    by Anthony Barnoski – Kolbert’s intellect mixed with Klein’s optimism.

    Ecocide: A Short History of the Mass Extinction of Species Dec 18 2014
    by Franz Broswimmer – ain’t read it yet, probably more shock shlock.

    The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History Feb 11 2014
    by Elizabeth Kolbert – makes Naomi Klein look like a dumbass.

    Under A Green Sky Aug 15 2014
    by Peter D Ward – good rundown of the Permian event.


    Scatter, Adapt, And Remember May 21 2013
    by Annalee Newitz – Newitz thinks we’ll live in self-healing cities post NTME.

    This Changes Everything Sep 16 2014
    by Naomi Klein – Fairy Tales for daddy’s little princess.

  • 2014-12-19 – Teen boy, 17, crashes car, deputy stops, teen attacks him with machete, deputy shoots teen, teen strips naked, deputies tase boy, boy dies, in Willow Creek (California)

    Quote: “Another Willow Creek resident officer arrived about 10 minutes later to find the 17-year-old lying naked next to his car, Jager said. ‘He tried to give some commands to the driver and the driver was not responsive to any commands, and was being completely erratic and irrational,’ Jager said. When the driver continued to be non-compliant, the officer Tased him, but he still did not put his hands behind his back, Jager said. At this time, two witnesses reportedly offered to help the second officer. By the time the driver was handcuffed, other officers and paramedics had arrived at the scene and life-saving attempts were initiated, Jager said. However, he said, the teenager died at the scene.”

    2014-12-19 – Chevron refinery does some serious ‘flaring’ in coastal Richmond (California)

    Quote: “The flames were visible for miles in the night’s sky, while local residents said the smell coming from the refinery was not pleasant.”

    2014-12-19 – SUV and six other vehicles go up in flames at 6 AM while parked at hotel in coastal Riverside (Maryland)

    2014-12-19 – Trailer full of hay bursts into flame while being towed, in West Donegal Township (Pennsylvania)

    2014-12-19 – Unoccupied room bursts into flame at hotel on Fern Valley Road in Louisville (Kentucky)

    2014-12-19 – Vacant home burns before 4 AM in coastal Woodmere (New York), firefighter falls and has heart attack

    2014-12-19 – Person drops dead near the Chelsea River in coastal Boston (Massachusetts)

    Quote: “The body was discovered around 12:30 p.m. behind property in the 300 block of Condor, a major thoroughfare in East Boston that parallels the Chelsea River. No foul play is suspected.”

    2014-12-19 – Man, 49, drops dead in tattoo shop in Lancaster (Pennsylvania)

    2014-12-19 – Residents sickening from hydrogen sulfide emissions from landfills in coastal Escambia County (Florida)

    Quote: “Residents of the Wedgewood community complain that hydrogen sulfide coming from the nearby landfill has been causing abnormally high rates of respiratory illness and cancer in the area. Although the Florida Department of Environmental Protection has confirmed that high levels of hydrogen sulfide can cause eye and respiratory irritation, there is still debate over if of how much of a health concern the landfill is for residents.”

  • Eco Shock Radio Comment Regarding Michael Mann:

    6 reasons for mass extinction
    1 of 6 reasons is climate

    extinction is not dependent on climate

    green energy won’t stop mass extinction

    mass extinction = doom and gloom

    Barnosky says we can stop it.
    he is wrong. how can i say that?

    so a climate scientist, a paleontologist and a biologist walks into a bar… guess who got lucky?
    when all 3 touched one stripper on different parts each felt a different thing, but the stirpper only felt the biologist.

    biology teaches that ecosystem collapse can cascade catastrophically creating killer conditions for life on earth. us and our livestock and crops are the number one reason for mass extinction.

    we approach Peak Limits of Growth exactly at a nexus of irresistible forces. we run out of water when energy demands more water. we run out of minerals exactly when we need them most. peak food is here.

    you don’t ask a climate guy about collapse. you don’t ask a specialist.
    what you do is, ask a guy who cuts grass in a trailer park. peak food, climate, minerals and energy means collapse sure as shit on a goose.

    i know this because i woke up hung over the other day with my dog licking my face using ESP to let space aliens tell me to warn you.

  • I’m beginning to suspect that if the climate were perfect for the next 50 years and all our carbon-dioxide and energy problems went away, we would still kill all life on earth, but sooner. when we eat more annual chlorophyll production than the rest of life, bat-shit craziness becomes irresistible and unstoppable.

    there are 2 things i know

    1) green energy will not work, we can’t build build billions of tons of perishable solar panels and wind turbines for the whole world every 25 years forever and ever, especially in future weather conditions. it is so stupid, i can’t believe i once thought it great.

    2) the very worst part about mass extinction is, it WILL become unstoppable and irreversible well BEFORE WE KNOW IT and, by the time we figure it out, there’s still a long, hard road ahead before the violent end. but, of course, science teaching will be history long before that.

  • After nearly a year, I’ve written a short essay in response to Scott Johnson’s lunacy. It’s here.

  • Hi Bud-

    Thank you for your attempt, but you are dealing with a person not grounded in reality and overflowing with feelings of inadequacy and jealousy. It feeds upon conflict. It obtains satisfaction by misrepresenting others and engaging in baseless ad hominem attacks. In summary, it is a total waste of time. Consequently, I feel no desire to justify myself to an intellectually bankrupt person for whom I have no respect.

  • FriedrichKling,

    Please consider yourself most welcome. I do think that I understand, and I similarly decided that it makes no sense to continue responding.