Edge of Extinction: Apologizing in a Personal Way

I’m featured in an article based on a presentation in British Columbia. It’s littered with incorrect and ignorant statements. Read it here.

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19 June 2015, 6:30 p.m. presentation and discussion, King’s Books, 218 St. Helens Avenue, Tacoma, Washington

22 June 2015, 7:00 p.m. presentation and discussion, Traditions Cafe, 300 Fifth Avenue SW, Olympia, Washington

24 June 2015, 3:00 p.m. book-reading and -signing, Tsunami Books, 2585 Willamette Street, Eugene, Oregon

24 June 2015, 7:00 p.m. presentation and discussion, Unitarian Universalist Congregation, 1685 West 13th Avenue, Eugene, Oregon

25 June 2015, 6:00 p.m. presentation and discussion, Community Library, 901 C Street 98660, Vancouver, Washington

26 June 2015, presentation and discussion at a time to be arranged, Portland City Club, 901 SW Washington Street, Portland, Oregon

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  • I’m sorry i raped you mother earth???

  • Please forgive me for by cause of inaction I have allowed this to happen

  • Me thinks you hurt Geof Strong’s little feelings, Guy.
    Apologize, but ask him NOT forgiveness.

  • .
    The number of overdose deaths increased in 26 states in the four years to 2013, the study found, and decreased in only six states.

    West Virginia had the highest number of drug overdose deaths per capita in the time period studied, with 33.5 fatalities for every 100,000 people, according to the report, while North Dakota had the lowest, with 2.6 per 100,000.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declared prescription drug abuse an epidemic in the United States, and all states except Missouri now have drug-monitoring programs.

    Drug overdose deaths exceeded motor vehicle-related fatalities in 36 states, it said.

    Injuries, including car crashes, homicides, suicides and traumatic brain injury, resulted in nearly 193,000 deaths and are the leading cause of death for Americans ages one to 44, the report said.

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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.

    The Voluntary Extinction Movement
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”

  • G.S. (Geoff) Strong’s article critiquing Guy’s presentation seems to be the current mainstream view of scientists — anthropogenic global warming, while real and a bad thing, won’t lead to near term extinction.

    Strong’s view, of course, fails to take fully into account the way complex systems, such as the climate, can experience abrupt, non-linear change when reinforcing feedback loops kick-in to trigger runaway climate change.

    Stong’s suggestion that Guy’s point of view not receive a hearing in public forums is most distressing.

  • When doing hypothetico-deductive science, a basic axiomatic rule applies.

    “All theories are not only permitted, but REQUIRED.”

    Although Geoff Strong is a credentialed PhD in meteorology (U. Alberta), he most assuredly cannot exclude the hypothesis of abrupt climate change by labeling it “extremism.”

    The quantum hypothesis was “an act of extreme desperation” on the part of its discoverer, Max Planck.

    Moreover, Mr Strong falsely claims that Guy is just advancing his opinion w/o evidence.

    There is a wealth of hard empirical & observational evidence from reliable & responsible scientific researchers completely supporting Guy’s warranted statements/hypotheses.

    Our very lives are on-the-line as part of the testing process.

  • Daniel, a “former” friend & retired urban planner is a passionate environmentalist vegan.

    He had a vasectomy as his contribution to saving the planet.

    He has a B.S. in environmental studies, & an M.S. in “planning.”

    He advocates complete & passionate commitment to environmentalism as he flies from Boulder, CO to Switzerland &/or Italy for skiing junkets with his equally committed lady.

    They also fly to Honduras for terrific fish Tacos & scuba diving.

    And Hawaii for more scuba in pristine waters.

    They sincerely “apologize” to the fucked-over-earth “in their minds” while on the plane at 500 mph & 35,000 feet.

    He always quotes the sacred Jevons Paradox as part of his sincere “apology” to the fucked-over-earth.

    He & his lady recycle their top quality wine bottles impeccably.

    He takes countless photos & videos of himself in pristine locations while he is “apologizing” in his fertile mind.

    He has a blog about his “travels & adventures.”

    I hate the yuppie bastard, & I just can’t do the love thing.

    Whadda fookin bullshitter phony!

  • The rate of mangling the Earth’s surface by industrialised humans may be starting to fall:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/caterpillar-second-great-depression-has-never-been-worse

  • I guess it will soon be time for the US to facilitate ‘regime change’ -send in the snipers, or perhaps bomb Athens:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-crisis-alexis-tsipras-woos-vladimir-putin-as-greeks-rush-for-their-savings-10333104.html

  • HLW – the most toxic type of nuclear waste, which accounts for 10 percent of total volumes – is not safe to handle at all for 40 to 50 years until it cools, which has allowed the question of what to do with it to be put off, until now.

    The IAEA is fully aware that waste held in surface level storage poses great risks, leaving it more exposed to floods, terrorism, earthquakes, climate change or human error.

    “Waste won’t go away after reactors are turned off,” said Stefan Mayer, team leader of the IAEA’s waste technology section.

  • I’m shocked, shocked I tell you….

    http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/1/5/e1400253.full.pdf

    “Accelerated modern human–induced species losses: Entering the sixth mass extinction”

    From the abstract:

    “These estimates reveal an exceptionally rapid loss of biodiversity over the last few centuries, indicating that a sixth mass extinction is already under way. Averting a dramatic decay of biodiversity and the subsequent loss of ecosystem services is still possible through intensified conservation efforts, but that window of opportunity is rapidly closing.”

  • Wow. That article really was incorrect and ignorant. Why is it that physical scientists don’t understand that the clear and present danger to humans is the loss of habitat–specifically, habitat that allows industrial agriculture to keep functioning and feeding 7.2 billion hungry people? Do they think that food naturally comes in bottles, cans, bags, and boxes that grow nightly on store shelves? Have they never raised even a solitary tomato plant? Are they really that ignorant of biology and that alienated from the world of living things? Let’s put these glorious Ph.D.s to work on farms for a year or two so they can discover (probably slowly and with great mental pain and effort) how difficult it is to grow food and what a risky, precarious business farming really is. Then maybe real-life experience will at last stuff enough useful ideas into their otherwise vacant craniums for these over-credentialed but under-educated dolts to start making sense.

  • Finally, the topic is now making it into the Lame Stream Media. The news, I’m sure, will still fall on mostly deaf ears….

    http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_28345327/sixth-mass-extinction-earths-species-disappearing-at-frightening

  • THE DOORS
    “When The Music’s Over”

    What have they done to the earth?
    What have they done to our fair sister?
    Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
    Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn
    And tied her with fences and dragged her down

    I hear a very gentle sound
    With your ear down to the ground
    We want the world and we want it…
    We want the world and we want it…
    Now
    Now?

  • “The End”

    This is the end
    Beautiful friend
    This is the end
    My only friend, the end

    Of our elaborate plans, the end
    Of everything that stands, the end

  • Getting It Wrong: Convicting the Innocent

    Too lazy to convict Oil-Qaeda?

    Too scared to convict Oil-Qaeda?

    Paid too much to convict Oil-Qaeda?

    Punishing the innocent is a heinous wrong (The Psychology of the Notion of Collective Guilt).

  • It seems that not a week goes by without a news story of someone being released from prison after genetic testing has exonerated them.

    Often, the original conviction stemmed from an admission of guilt. Now, new research looks into why innocent people confess.

    By minimizing the severity of a crime, Guyll explained how investigators try to convince the person they are questioning it’s in his or her best interest to confess.

    (Why People Confess — Even If They Didn’t Do It).

  • Robin, what cracks me up about the wave of “inequality” reporting over the last couple of years is that somehow the media has taken up the standard that this is an issue to do with the “top .1%” or the “top .01%”, even neither of those roll off the tongue (or keyboard) anything near like “THE ONE PERCENT”!!!

    The *minimum* yearly income level to be considered part of “the 1%” in the US is quite close to $400,000 dollars. So you know there’s a large number of VERY sensitive people making $400k and up in the media and among their advertisers who don’t consider themselves part of the problem. On the contrary!

    It’s just so funny to see this twisty semantical gymnastics.

  • Brave Woman – Woman Brave:
    http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/06/18/i-stood-between-shell-and-arctic-join-me

    We are the life-givers. We are reclaiming our power. We are reclaiming our dignity. We are reclaiming our rightful place on the lands we love and the sea that we care for. We stand for preserving and protecting the land and water that have sustained life since the first sunrise.

    We will carry on the work of my ancestors.
    Audrey Siegel, Musqueam Nation

  • I live on Vancouver Island and G.S. (Geoff) Strong who wrote that article is an idiot using half truths and lies to try and make his points lol … We are on water restrictions sooner than ever before as no snow in mountains. I drive a 40 mile stretch of logging road around a large lake to go trout fishing .20 years ago you wouldn’t even think of driving in there in winter as road is covered by 4 to 6 feet of snow. Over the last 15 years you could get further and further around the lake until this year maybe a half inch of snow for a day or 2. I kinda watched global warming sweep though here as this is the first year you could drive around lake back to highway. The last 5 years it happened fast. Also there are no glaciers in the mountains here …gone.
    PS was going to go to that meeting just to say hi to guy but kids wanted to go fishing and since life may be real short I went fishing ,sorry guy

  • Robin – In non-theistic traditions there is nothing but a flawed view of the universal thusness/suchness; resulting in ignorance, delusion, and a mirage.

    The source of this mistake is a delusion based on the hubris of such (non)believers imagining that no Being in the cosmos is greater than themselves. Such a one believes she/he can abolish the existence of Beings of greater knowledge, power, and love by a mere mental fiat of his or her small mind. They brush aside this knowledge of higher Beings sometimes referred to as Gods, or simply God as casually as they would a fly landed on their arm, even though the traditional knowledge of such things is far older and more in evidence all over our world and in every age of history than is the conceit of a Godless universe. As Nietzsche predicted, the attempt to construct a worldview to replace the seemingly deconstructed theism of millennia has resulted in an age of anxiety and lostness.
    Replacing the lost Deity(s) is not working too well for us is it?

    There were in our history many things wrong with the conceptions of what those Beings are like, especially when people in power realized they could control others by phony claims of closeness or even identity with the cardboard Gods they put forth. But the existence of so many false gods should not blind us to the strong possibility that in a universe as old as ours is, there is a near certainty that some intelligent Beings so far exceed our knowledge and powers, that we may well look up to them as Gods. Or does someone have proof of their nonexistence? ……I thought not.

    One more thing. Many people assume that more evolved Beings would necessarily occupy physical forms at least somewhat similar to the gross physical bodies we are so attached to. This need not be the case. One of the advantages of experimentation with projection of one’s subtle selves or vehicles outside the physical envelope is that it gives a taste of what a subtle Being is like. Such Beings are free of many limitations that we take for granted. So when we consider “Gods” we might discard the idea that they are walking around somewhere in bodies like our own….. Think about it – what do you really know about such projection if you haven’t experienced it?

    Also, consider the idea of the ishta devata In Hindu thought. This is a chosen form of God(s) that resonates with the worshiper. In the Gita there is a passage which roughly says “however you imagine Me, and whatever you offer to me in worship, I will return the whole of me as I actually am.” This maps exactly with what AA refers to as the “higher power – as you understand That.” Even if you offer your prayers to a sculptured figure of Buddha or Krishna, or Christ this practice can be effective in improving your contact with That Reality which is beyond all representation or words. It is helpful to remember that to avoid the confusion that the particular form you choose to worship is the only correct one among millions of equally valid and useful forms given to a Reality which is both beyond all forms and inclusive of all forms.

  • Still – I was almost about to apologize again for ‘upsetting you’ – but it occurs to me now that you are fully capable of managing whatever waves I may have stirred in your reservoir of consciousness. Stirring can actually be useful – sometimes when something upsets me, I get my best insights – especially into myself! The alchemical process of solve et coagula, and its Hegelian counterpart thesis-antithesis-synthesis moves us on to deeper understandings. There is value in this blessed unrest –

    “There is a vitality, a life force, a quickening that is translated through you into action, and there is only one of you in all time. This expression is unique, and if you block it, it will never exist through any other medium; and it will be lost. The world will not have it. It is not your business to determine how good it is, nor how it compares with other expression. It is your business to keep it yours clearly and directly, to keep the channel open. You do not even have to believe in yourself or your work, You have to keep open to the urges that motivate you. Keep the channel open. No artist is pleased. There is no satisfaction whatever at any time. There is a queer, divine dissatisfaction, a blessed unrest that keeps us marching and makes us more alive than others.”
    Martha Graham

  • “In non-theistic traditions there is nothing but a flawed view of the universal thusness/suchness; resulting in ignorance, delusion, and a mirage.”

    “There is a queer, divine dissatisfaction, a blessed unrest that keeps us marching and makes us more alive than others.” Martha Graham

    “Arrgghh.” Isadora Duncan

    “Affectations can be dangerous.” Gertrude Stein

  • Martha, Isadora, Gertrude – they were all living dangerously outside the mindset of their times, and burning their candles at both ends…

  • Yes Mike ! They burned the candle both ends furiously .. One of them mystics said “you have to really live for only one moment ever ” … only one moment after that you can die with no regrets . Humanity sold out they sold themselves into surviving instead of living . They sold out for quantity of time vs quality of time . The race or species ran its course . These what we see now are death pangs . Just like an old man woman who never lived trying to hold on life to really live for one moment of time …. It won`t happen . The lie, that life was given for life sake, is being revealed as a lie . Life was given for beautification .. cultivating the soul .. Whats next is the judgement and the test of that coming down on every one of us .. can you face it?! because you will

  • There is nothing better than good advice.

  • Death-by-a-thousand-cuts #152.

    ‘The authorities have described the flooding in Wanganui as the largest flood event in the district’s recent history.’

    http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/flooding-citys-worst-in-recorded-history/ar-AAbT4z9?ocid=TSHDHP

    (Guy, do you remember Wanganui, or is it all a blur now?)

  • By the way, 114mm (4 1/2 inches) of rain overnight in my rain gauge -the most I have recorded in NP.

  • I remember Wanganui, Kevin, fondly

  • Sunday i received the notice from robohantas, that Lake Mead is six inches from the level that triggers cutbacks http://www.hcn.org/articles/what-really-happens-if-lake-mead-stays-below-the-1-075-ft-mark

    my friend in Vegas reports today it is one hundred thirteen degrees f. forty five c. / in the morning.

  • Article in Science (348,1238-1241, 2015) correlating temperature forcing and precipitation amounts by varying atmospheric oxygen concentrations. For example at 560 ppm carbon dioxide the following results would be expected:

    Oxygen conc (%) Temp (deg C) Precipitation m/yr
    5 21 1.35
    10 20 1.3
    15 19 1.25
    21 present conc 17 1.2
    30 16 1.1
    35 15 1.05

    As the carbon dioxide increases the corresponding precipitation and temperature go up. This could explain what occurs when plants and phytoplankton die off lowering the oxygen concentration by no longer taking in carbon dioxide and converting it to oxygen. This would be an immediate strong positive feedback while the increasing precipitation would be a slightly negative feedback over a long time scale.

  • Rusty1, Wester… Thanks for the updates. 113 degrees in the morning you wrote??? Really? You could use a hammer to try to penetrate the skulls of those whose perspectives on such dramatic climate changes that are happening and most will not bat an eye. Try asking anyone on the streets, not that there would be many at those temperatures, what they thought of climate change and very few will mention the fact that the asphalt under their feet is about to flow. Now compare that to the pot full of frogs coming to a boil and the similarities will leave you speechless, not that anybody’s alarm bells will make a whole lot of difference anyway.
    Temperatures in my neck of the woods, (those that aren’t yet dead)are predicted to reach over 100 for about a week in a few days… that’s very high, even for the Okanagan… Cherries for one do not ripen at that temperature… they simply stop growing.

  • mike k ~

    “In non-theistic traditions there is nothing but a flawed view of the universal thusness/suchness”

    any view that is not the Ultimate View ~ meaning the view of the One ITself ~ is a flawed view.

    it is only a matter of degree.

    since all views are only the views of the One ~ the only Being that actually exists ~ there are no flawed views.

    thus all ignorance is a mirage.

    how any Being navigates and experiences the paradox of its non-Being is the unique adventure the One experiences from that Being’s Point of View.

  • I’ve posted video from the current speaking tour. It’s here.

  • The piece below by Charles Eisenstein is a bit long, but I feel it is very relevant to much we are discussing here. If you are not interested just zip it………..

    Mutiny of the Soul

    “Depression, anxiety, and fatigue are an essential part of a process of metamorphosis that is unfolding on the planet today, and highly significant for the light they shed on the transition from an old world to a new.
    When a growing fatigue or depression becomes serious, and we get a diagnosis of Epstein-Barr or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or hypothyroid or low serotonin, we typically feel relief and alarm. Alarm: something is wrong with me. Relief: at least I know I’m not imagining things; now that I have a diagnosis, I can be cured, and life can go back to normal. But of course, a cure for these conditions is elusive.
    The notion of a cure starts with the question, “What has gone wrong?” But there is another, radically different way of seeing fatigue and depression that starts by asking, “What is the body, in its perfect wisdom, responding to?” When would it be the wisest choice for someone to be unable to summon the energy to fully participate in life?
    The answer is staring us in the face. When our soul-body is saying No to life, through fatigue or depression, the first thing to ask is, “Is life as I am living it the right life for me right now?” When the soul-body is saying No to participation in the world, the first thing to ask is, “Does the world as it is presented me merit my full participation?”
    What if there is something so fundamentally wrong with the world, the lives, and the way of being offered us, that withdrawal is the only sane response? Withdrawal, followed by a reentry into a world, a life, and a way of being wholly different from the one left behind?
    The unspoken goal of modern life seems to be to live as long and as comfortably as possible, to minimize risk and to maximize security. We see this priority in the educational system, which tries to train us to be “competitive” so that we can “make a living”. We see it in the medical system, where the goal of prolonging life trumps any consideration of whether, sometimes, the time has come to die. We see it in our economic system, which assumes that all people are motivated by “rational self-interest”, defined in terms of money, associated with security and survival. (And have you ever thought about the phrase “the cost of living”?) We are supposed to be practical, not idealistic; we are supposed to put work before play. Ask someone why she stays in a job she hates, and as often as not the answer is, “For the health insurance.” In other words, we stay in jobs that leave us feeling dead in order to gain the assurance of staying alive. When we choose health insurance over passion, we are choosing survival over life.
    On a deep level, which I call the soul level, we want none of that. We recognize that we are here on earth to enact a sacred purpose, and that most of the jobs on offer are beneath our dignity as human beings. But we might be too afraid to leave our jobs, our planned-out lives, our health insurance, or whatever other security and comfort we have received in exchange for our divine gifts. Deep down, we recognize this security and comfort as slaves’ wages, and we yearn to be free.
    So, the soul rebels. Afraid to make the conscious choice to step away from a slave’s life, we make the choice unconsciously instead. We can no longer muster the energy to go through the motions. We enact this withdrawal from life through a variety of means. We might summon the Epstein-Barr virus into our bodies, or mononucleosis, or some other vector of chronic fatigue. We might shut down our thyroid or adrenal glands. We might shut down our production of serotonin in the brain. Other people take a different route, incinerating the excess life energy in the fires of addiction. Either way, we are in some way refusing to participate. We are shying away from ignoble complicity in a world gone wrong. We are refusing to contribute our divine gifts to the aggrandizement of that world.
    That is why the conventional approach of fixing the problem so that we can return to normal life will not work. It might work temporarily, but the body will find other ways to resist. Raise serotonin levels with SSRIs, and the brain will prune some receptor sites, thinking in its wisdom, “Hey, I’m not supposed to feel good about the life I am living right now.” In the end, there is always suicide, a common endpoint of the pharmaceutical regimes that seek to make us happy with something inimical to our very purpose and being. You can only force yourself to abide in wrongness so long. When the soul’s rebellion is suppressed too long, it can explode outward in bloody revolution. Significantly, all of the school shootings in the last decade have involved people on anti-depression medication. All of them! For a jaw-dropping glimpse of the results of the pharmaceutical regime of control, scroll down this compilation of suicide/homicide cases involving SSRIs. I am not using “jaw-dropping” as a figure of speech. My jaw literally dropped open.
    Back in the 1970s, dissidents in the Soviet Union were often hospitalized in mental institutions and given drugs similar to the ones used to treat depression today. The reasoning was that you had to be insane to be unhappy in the Socialist Workers’ Utopia. When the people treating depression receive status and prestige from the very system that their patients are unhappy with, they are unlikely to affirm the basic validity of the patient’s withdrawal from life. “The system has to be sound — after all, it validates my professional status — therefore the problem must be with you.”
    Unfortunately, “holistic” approaches are no different, as long as they deny the wisdom of the body’s rebellion. When they do seem to work, usually that is because they coincide with some other shift. When someone goes out and gets help, or makes a radical switch of modalities, it works as a ritual communication to the unconscious mind of a genuine life change. Rituals have the power to make conscious decisions real to the unconscious. They can be part of taking back one’s power.
    I have met countless people of great compassion and sensitivity, people who would describe themselves as “conscious” or “spiritual”, who have battled with CFS, depression, thyroid deficiency, and so on. These are people who have come to a transition point in their lives where they become physically incapable of living the old life in the old world. That is because, in fact, the world presented to us as normal and acceptable is anything but. It is a monstrosity. Ours is a planet in pain. If you need me to convince you of that, if you are unaware of the destruction of forests, oceans, wetlands, cultures, soil, health, beauty, dignity, and spirit that underlies the System we live in, then I have nothing to say to you. I only am speaking to you if you do believe that there is something deeply wrong with the way we are living on this planet.
    A related syndrome comprises various “attention deficit” and anxiety “disorders” (forgive me, I cannot write down these words without the ironic quotation marks) which reflect an unconscious knowledge that something is wrong around here. Anxiety, like all emotions, has a proper function. Suppose you left a pot on the stove and you know you forgot something, you just can’t remember what. You cannot rest at ease. Something is bothering you, something is wrong. Subliminally you smell smoke. You obsess: did I leave the water running? Did I forget to pay the mortgage? The anxiety keeps you awake and alert; it doesn’t let you rest; it keeps your mind churning, worrying. This is good. This is what saves your life. Eventually you realize — the house is on fire! — and anxiety turns into panic, and action.
    So if you suffer from anxiety, maybe you don’t have a “disorder” at all — maybe the house is on fire. Anxiety is simply the emotion corresponding to “Something is dangerously wrong and I don’t know what it is.” That is only a disorder if there is in fact nothing dangerously wrong. “Nothing is wrong, just you” is the message that any therapy gives when it tries to fix you. I disagree with that message. The problem is not with you. You have very good reason to be anxious. Anxiety keeps part of your attention away from your tasks of polishing the silverware as the house burns down, of playing the violin as the Titanic sinks. Unfortunately, the wrongness you are tapping into might be beyond the cognizance of the psychiatrists who treat you, who then conclude that the problem must be your brain.
    Similarly, Attention Deficit Disorder, ADHD, and my favorite, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) are only disorders if we believe that the things presented for our attention are worth paying attention to. We cannot admit, without calling into question the whole edifice of our school system, that it may be completely healthy for a ten-year-old boy to not sit still for six hours in a classroom learning about long division and Vasco de Gama. Perhaps the current generation of children, that some call the Indigos, simply have a lower tolerance for school’s agenda of conformity, obedience, external motivation, right-and-wrong answers, the quantification of performance, rules and bells, report cards and grades and your permanent record. So we try to enforce their attention with stimulants, and subdue their heroic intuitive rebellion against the spirit-wrecking machine.
    As I write about the “wrongness” against which we all rebel, I can hear some readers asking, “What about the metaphysical principle that it’s ‘all good’?” Just relax, I am told, nothing is wrong, all is part of the divine plan. You only perceive it as wrong because of your limited human perspective. All of this is only here for our own development. War: it gives people wonderful opportunities to make heroic choices and burn off bad karma. Life is wonderful, Charles, why do you have to make it wrong?
    I am sorry, but usually such reasoning is just a sop to the conscience. If it is all good, then that is only because we perceive and experience it as terribly wrong. The perception of iniquity moves us to right it.
    Nonetheless, it would be ignorant and fruitless to pass judgment upon those who do not see anything wrong, who, oblivious to the facts of destruction, think everything is basically fine. There is a natural awakening process, in which first we proceed full speed ahead participating in the world, believing in it, seeking to contribute to the Ascent of Humanity. Eventually, we encounter something that is undeniably wrong, perhaps a flagrant injustice or a serious health problem or a tragedy near at hand. Our first response is to think this is an isolated problem, remediable with some effort, within a system that is basically sound. But when we try to fix it, we discover deeper and deeper levels of wrongness. The rot spreads; we see that no injustice, no horror can stand in isolation. We see that the disappeared dissidents in South America, the child laborers in Pakistan, the clearcut forests of the Amazon, are all intimately linked together in a grotesque tapestry that includes every aspect of modern life. We realize that the problems are too big to fix. We are called to live in an entirely different way, starting with our most fundamental values and priorities.
    All of us go through this process, repeatedly, in various realms of our lives; all parts of the process are right and necessary. The phase of full participation is a growth phase in which we develop gifts that will be applied very differently later. The phase of trying to fix, to endure, to soldier on with a life that isn’t working is a maturation phase that develops qualities of patience and determination and strength. The phase of discovering the all-encompassing nature of the problem is usually a phase of despair, but it need not be. Properly, it is a phase of rest, of stillness, of withdrawal, of preparation for a push. The push is a birth-push. Crises in our lives converge and propel us into a new life, a new being that we hardly imagine could exist, except that we’d heard rumors of it, echoes, and maybe even caught a glimpse of it here and there, been granted through grace a brief preview.
    If you are in the midst of this process, you need not suffer if you cooperate with it. I can offer you two things. First is self-trust. Trust your own urge to withdraw even when a million messages are telling you, “The world is fine, what’s wrong with you? Get with the program.” Trust your innate belief that you are here on earth for something magnificent, even when a thousand disappointments have told you you are ordinary. Trust your idealism, buried in your eternal child’s heart, that says that a far more beautiful world than this is possible. Trust your impatience that says “good enough” is not good enough. Do not label your noble refusal to participate as laziness and do not medicalize it as an illness. Your heroic body has merely made a few sacrifices to serve your growth.
    The second thing I can offer you is a map. The journey I have described is not always linear, and you may find yourself from time to time revisiting earlier territory. When you find the right life, when you find the right expression of your gifts, you will receive an unmistakable signal. You will feel excited and alive. Many people have preceded you on this journey, and many more will follow in times to come. Because the old world is falling apart, and the crises that initiate the journey are converging upon us. Soon many people will follow the paths we have pioneered. Each journey is unique, but all share the same basic dynamics I have described. When you have passed through it, and understood the necessity and rightness of each of its phases, you will be prepared to midwife others through it as well. Your condition, all the years of it, has prepared you for this. It has prepared you to ease the passage of those who will follow. Everything you have gone through, every bit of the despair, has been necessary to forge you into a healer and a guide. The need is great. The time is coming soon.”

    Charles Eisenstein

  • The oblations to the rain god has worn off.

    Water in the Chao Phraya Dam reached its lowest point in three decades on Sunday as farmers continued to divert supplies for farming.
    Dam director Ekkasit Sakthanaporn said the water level was recorded at 14 metres above sea level at 3.30pm, a drop from 14.40 metres on Saturday. Pleaded with the farmers to turn off the pumps to save water as there was only enough for irrigation for another month if the level continued to drop at the current rate. 9,000 villages in 23 provinces are declared disaster areas due to drought, according to the latest update by the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department. It accounts for 12.5% of the total 75,000 villages in the country. http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/598832/chao-phraya-dam-water-in-crisis

    Thanks for the kudos when the odds are impossible on the next thread.
    these are the fights i live for.
    im going out to tilt at windmills now.

  • Guy doesn’t explain what Geoff Strong got wrong but it’s worth emphasizing that he did write, “global warming is definitely a threat to mankind, and likely the most serious threat that we have ever faced, but mankind is not going extinct within the next 20 years, even though we will almost certainly start seeing increased deaths through drought, famine, severe storms, etc.” So he can’t be labelled a denier or in any sense a luke-warmer.

    He also wrote that “predictions of the extinction of mankind are also not helpful”. This is a fir point. If Guy is wrong (and I don’t know of any climate scientist who thinks he’s right), then that kind of message may be counter productive if there is the slightest chance that some humans can survive the bottleneck, if we take the right actions. A belief that the bottleneck can’t be survived would make any change in behaviour irrelevant.

  • Welcome back, Tony. We haven’t had anybody promoting lies for a while. Unlike most adults, you’re stuck on Santa and the Easter Bunny.

    Please send a link to any evidence demonstrating I’m wrong. Otherwise, your nonsense is transparent even to your hero Scott Johnson.

  • Tony writes: ……that kind of message may be counter productive if there is the slightest chance that some humans can survive the bottleneck, if we take the right actions…..

    I’m curious, Tony — if we were to take the “right actions”, how many humans would you want to survive the bottleneck?

    5 billion….1 billion…..10,000…what are you hoping for? And why?

  • Tony, by definition some part of a population survives a bottleneck. That’s the difference between a bottleneck and extinction. what part of the population that turns out to be is inherently unpredictable. Any preparations we might make for entering it are done more to make us feel better than to maximize the chances of success. Whatever we say about it in advance, whether portentous or hopeful, will have a vanishingly small effect on the outcome.

  • Guy,

    Thanks for the welcome back.

    You didn’t show where I was wrong, yet you ask for evidence that you are wrong, when all you wrote was, “It’s littered with incorrect and ignorant statements” that is, you provided no indications of what exactly Strong got wrong, or was ignorant about. If you do, maybe I can point out why they aren’t wrong, or else agree with you. That is difficult to do with no information.

    By the way, I don’t promote lies; yours is one hell of a welcome back!

  • Drug overdose deaths exceeded motor vehicle-related fatalities in 36 states, it said.

    Injuries, including car crashes, homicides, suicides and traumatic brain injury, resulted in nearly 193,000 deaths and are the leading cause of death for Americans ages one to 44, the report said.

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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.

    The Voluntary Extinction Movement
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”

  • Tony, I’ve addressed each of Strong’s statements repeatedly in my writing. And if you pay attention you’ll notice I don’t say much of what he says I say in my presentation. But you know that. Trolls ask serious people to waste time. I’ll avoid your trap.

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    http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2004/04/three_degrees_o.html
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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.

    The Voluntary Extinction Movement
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”

  • Artleads ~ sorry, deleted. all over-posts in the main thread get deleted. no exceptions. this thread is right here for any overflow.

    Kirk ~ “but I find it really creepy that some people here defend the persecution of the Palestinians”

    what are you talking about? who here is defending the persecution of the Palestinians? I can’t recall a single instance of that here, anywhere. did I miss something?

  • Mo – I was going to ask Kirk the same question, you beat me to it.

    John – I am on the same page. Human history is the history of the strong dominating and exploiting the weak. Before we came down out of the trees this bullying was happening. Subsequent history has followed the same pattern to this day. Our world is dominated by wealthy, powerful super-bullys. Unless we find a way to break their grip on us, we are truly doomed. Real spirituality has this as a primary goal. False spirituality and religion merely seeks it’s own advantage in the “game.” Abuse of power is the human disease; cure it or be destroyed by it.

    The Trans-humanists Mark Austin speaks of can only make things worse. That the military seeks to develop some of their super powers for their own insane use should give us a clue how dangerous this thinking is. More power!? Only those without a clue to the origins of our crisis could come up with that as a “solution.” With friends like these….

  • http://www.thenewandancientstory.net/

    This short bit about the subtle dimension of peace is interesting. It reminds me of the I Ching saying, “everything furthers” and also, “the taming power of the small.”

  • great link, Mike. I really liked that.

    “When superior men and women hear of the Tao,
    they embody it.
    When average men and women hear of the Tao,
    they half believe it and half doubt it.
    When foolish men and women hear of the Tao they laugh out loud,
    if they didn’t laugh,
    it wouldn’t be the Tao.

    The path into the light seems dark,
    the path forward seems to go back,
    the direct path seems long,
    true power seems weak,
    true purity seems tarnished,
    true steadfastness seems changeable,
    true clarity seems obscure,
    the greatest art seems unsophisticated,
    the greatest love seems indifferent,
    the greatest wisdom seems childish.

    The Tao is nowhere to be found,
    yet it nourishes and completes all things.”

    ~ Lao Tzu

  • The Old Tiger

    So simple

    So profound

    I love everyone

    Who loves

    Lao Tzu

    Mo gifted me

    With the perfect

    Breakfast

    Made my day

    The Universe

    Dances

    With itself

    Smoothly

    turning