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  • And all significant financial-economic-political systems are geared the bringing forward mayhem and the point at which the Earth becomes largely uninhabitable for most vertebrate species.

    ‘Interesting times’.

    September is now just weeks away.

  • Thanks for all your help mo – best of luck out there.

    https://arctic-news.blogspot.ca/2015/07/arctic-sea-ice-collapse-threatens-update-1.html

    Sunday, July 19, 2015
    Arctic Sea Ice Collapse Threatens – Update 1

    In terms of thickness, sea ice has been reduced by more than one meter in many places, such as north of Greenland and the Canadian Archipelago, all in the time span of just one month.

    This dramatic decline of the sea ice in 2015 is the result of a combination of factors, including:

    High levels of greenhouse gases over the Arctic Ocean, as illustrated by the image below, showing that on July 17, 2015 (pm), levels as high as 2512 parts per billion were recorded at 6,041 m (19,820 ft) altitude, while mean methane levels were 1830 parts per billion at this altitude.

    High levels of ocean heat, as illustrated by the image below showing high sea surface temperatures off the east coast of North America; much of this ocean heat will be carried by the Gulf Stream into the Arctic Ocean over the next few months.

    High air temperatures over North America and Siberia extending over the Arctic Ocean, as illustrated by the image below showing a temperature of 23.1°C (73.7°F), recorded on July 19, 2015, at Banks Island, in the Canadian Archipelago (green circle).

    Wildfires triggered by these heatwaves resulting in darkening compounds settling on snow and ice, as illustrated by the image below showing smoke covering a wide area on July 19, 2015, from the east Siberia over North America to the southern tip of Greenland.

    Very warm river water running into the Arctic Ocean, as illustrated by the image below, showing sea surface temperatures as high as 19°C (66.2°F) off the coast of Alaska on July 12-15, 2015.

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    Massive amounts of ocean heat will be carried by the Gulf Stream into the Arctic Ocean over the next few months. The combined result of high sea surface temperatures being mixed down to the seafloor and the ocean heat entering the Arctic Ocean from the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans can be expected to result in dramatic methane eruptions from the Arctic Ocean seafloor by October 2015.

  • “…the ocean heat entering the Arctic Ocean from the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans can be expected to result in dramatic methane eruptions from the Arctic Ocean seafloor by October 2015.”

    I can hear the wings of JUSTICE aflapin’ for the relatively small group of individuals who through the centuries have caused this horror curse ending for humanity. This has taken thousands of years to accomplish, however, this is better than nothing for after all we all return to the Quantum world, unconscious, and blameless, AND w/o pain.

    Personally, I’m excited and expectant but VERY sad for all people of good will (most).

    Goodby and adios MO. You are the best.

  • Here’s some more bad news from another front:

    Governments Worldwide Will Crash the First Week of October … According to 2 Financial Forecasters

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/07/governments-worldwide-will-crash-the-first-week-of-october-according-to-2-financial-forecasters.html

    Two well-known financial forecasters claim that virtually all governments worldwide will be hit with a gigantic economic crisis in the first week of October 2015.

    [quote from the end of the article, and correction]

    Edelson is predicting the biggest financial crisis in world history – including a collapse of government solvency – starting on October 7, 2015 – the same week as Armstrong’s prediction – when the European Union breaks up.

    Edelson also thinks that huge sums of investment will flow from the Eurozone to America, driving up U.S. stocks (unlike Armstrong, Edelson thinks U.S. bonds will also benefit). He thinks that Japan will be the next domino to fall … and that Japan’s default will also drive investments into the U.S. as a safe haven.

    In other words, both Armstrong and Edelson think that – as the best looking horse in the glue factory – the U.S. stock market will skyrocket as others fall apart.

    But to be clear, both believe that the domino collapse will eventually hit the U.S., and America will end up defaulting on its debts – and falling into financial crisis – as well.

    Correction: Several people have pointed out that Armstrong is not predicting that the crisis will be felt on October 1, 2015. Rather, he’s forecasting that October 1st is a major turning point, but that the governmental financial crisis may not be felt until some months later.

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    The convergence of environmental decay and financial collapse appears to be the point of the spear that will ultimately take down civilization. It’s not looking good for many other species either.

    Best to all as we crest the hill of the roller-coaster of death and destruction we’re on.

  • @shep

    I can hear the wings of JUSTICE aflapin’ for the relatively small group of individuals who through the centuries have caused this horror curse ending for humanity.

    Yeah, I can feel it 🙂

    … after all we all return to the Quantum world, unconscious, and blameless, AND w/o pain.

    How do you know that? 😎

    @Guy McPherson

    A big thank you for all your updates on “the situation” and all your hard work in general! In the early days we had prophets who raised their dark and angry voice for warning, now we have people like you.

    @Artleads & mike k

    Please notice my comments to you at https://guymcpherson.com/2015/07/edge-of-extinction-last-automated-tweet/#comment-162525

    @mo flow

    A big thanks for any inspiring conversations and your work here at NBL. May God or whoevever bless you, I’ll see you in my dreams!

    “We need, in love, to practice only this: letting each other go. For holding on comes easily; we do not need to learn it.

    ― Rainer Maria Rilke


  • I publicly volunteer to maintain a ruthless oversight of all your evil minions, my egomaniacal death-cult overlord.


    If’n U Ain’t Scared, U Retarded.

    90% of U.S. trees gone since 1600.

    http://www.ran.org/how_much_old_growth_forest_remains_in_the_us

    50% of Europe’s renewable energy comes from burning wood imported from all over the world, including Louisiana.

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/whats-replacing-coal-europe-imported-wood-180952483/?no-ist

    98% of Indonesia’s rainforests will be gone in 10 years.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/apr/04/energy.indonesia

    50% of China’s rivers have disappeared since 1990.

    http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2291208/chinas_looming_water_crisis.html

    60% of China’s groundwater is too toxic to even touch.

    http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/agribusiness/general-news/chinas-water-woes-impact-food-supply/2731392.aspx

    20% of China’s soil is too toxic to grow food.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/chinas-choice/2014/apr/18/china-one-fifth-farmland-soil-pollution

    In 10 years, 4 billion people will be short of water.
    (See: Did You Know – two-thirds of the world’s population could be living under water stressed conditions.)

    http://www.un.org/waterforlifedecade/scarcity.shtml

    World water demand will exceed supply by 40%.

    http://www.triplepundit.com/2014/03/un-world-water-day-report-highlights-risks-rewards-water-energy-nexus/

    In 20 years, Food & Water Wars will be normal.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/apr/03/climate-change-battle-food-head-world-bank

    In 30 years Cascading Mass Extinction Is Irreversible.

    http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/7350/Call-of-Life–Facing-the-Mass-Extinction

    Trees Vs. Food

    Forests Or Food. Which Is It? from collapse

    Mass Extinction Numbers

    Collapse Data Cheat Sheet from collapse

    Renewable Bullshit

    Why Green Energy Is A False God! from collapse

    Why We Can’t Git Nut’in’ Dunn!

    How To Stop The PermaBuzz from Permaculture

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    .LONDON (Reuters) – Oil dropped on Monday as signs of a growing glut in refined products outweighed a fall in Saudi crude exports and slower U.S. rig activity.

    Crude prices have fallen for three weeks in a row on expectations of increased oil sales from Iran following a deal to ease sanctions against the OPEC producer.

    Brent crude for September (LCOc1) was down 35 cents at $56.75 a barrel by 1100 GMT (12.00 noon BST). The benchmark fell nearly 3 percent last week and is down more than 10 percent so far this month.
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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.
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    Sadly, this is what we’ve come to:
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    The Voluntary Extinction Movement says:
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia says:
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”
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  • In desperate times, comes the most desperate mysterious & miraculous solutions.

    The spirituality craziness has only started, & it will be filled with pure madness.

    search this title; Amid epic drought, California farmers turn to water witches

  • Where is everyone going, as though it’s the last chapter ? After careful consideration and not by any means do I intend to use sensationalism or be a somewhat pointless “harbinger of gloom” But ! Any experienced scientist, or other aware individual, is by now acutely aware that life and the balance of nature is very fragile, and that “doom” for any life form may result from destruction or over-exploitation of its environment. For humanity this principle applies to the socio-economic as well as the natural environment. So, so go the cities so goes the whole shituation, then the destruction of the natural world-which must inevitably include the human race, and love

  • You have NEVER seen anything deeper or more credible about the human condition, including ALL fiction, than this.

  • Mo- Best wishes and many thanks for all that you’ve done… both to make this site tick on a technical/digital level, and for your heartfelt contributions.
    I hope you’re coming back soon.
    Meanwhile, keep on dancing joyful & electrified, across the spectrum:

  • kevin moore Says:
    July 20th, 2015 at 3:20 am
    “And all significant financial-economic-political systems are geared the bringing forward mayhem and the point at which the Earth becomes largely uninhabitable for most vertebrate species.

    ‘Interesting times’.

    September is now just weeks away.”

    Still expecting a Septembre global collapse? I am NOT.

    Tom Says:
    July 20th, 2015 at 5:09 am
    “Here’s some more bad news from another front:

    Governments Worldwide Will Crash the First Week of October … According to 2 Financial Forecasters”

    Not in October either. The monster has momentum. It will keep going till the planet’s physical process will terminate it, but that could take at least 15 years, if not much more. Just my own six cents.

  • Best wishes mo flow, thanks for your work, especially in the forum to clean up the spam and get it back on track!

    Another “shocking” revelation further illustrating Al Bartlett’s famous quote:

    “The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.””

    “The world’s most famous climate scientist just outlined an alarming scenario for our planet’s future”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/07/20/the-worlds-most-famous-climate-scientist-just-outlined-an-alarming-scenario-for-our-planets-future/

    “In the new study, Hansen and his colleagues suggest that the “doubling time” for ice loss from West Antarctica — the time period over which the amount of loss could double — could be as short as 10 years. In other words, a non-linear process could be at work, triggering major sea level rise in a time frame of 50 to 200 years. By contrast, Hansen and colleagues note, the IPCC assumed more of a linear process, suggesting only around 1 meter of sea level rise, at most, by 2100.”

    “… it concludes that “if [greenhouse gases] continue to grow, the amplifying feedbacks in the Southern Ocean, including expanded sea ice and [Southern ocean overturning circulation] slowdown likely will continue to grow and facilitate increasing Antarctic mass loss”

    But of course….

    “It’s an alarming picture of where the planet could be headed — and hard to ignore, given its author. But it may also meet with considerable skepticism in the scientific community, given that its scenarios of sea level rise occur more rapidly than those ratified by the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in its latest assessment of the state of climate science, published in 2013.”

  • Yes Mo,

    I’ll join some of the others and want to say thanks for all you’ve done. I’ll miss you.

  • Ciao Mo…On your way out the door, please don’t forget to take out the entropy.

    Cut word lines — shift linguals — Vibrate tourists — Free doorways —
    Word falling — Photo falling — Breakthrough in Grey Room —

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    Economic instability or ISIS? Cyber attacks or climate change? Tensions in Russia, territorial disputes between China and its neighbors, or nuclear warheads in Iran?

    World leaders face plenty of tough challenges, but according to the results of a new Pew Research Center survey of more than 45,000 people in 40 countries, there’s one issue that folks are more concerned about than any other: climate change.

    Indeed, according to the survey results, people in 19 of the 40 countries told researchers they are “very concerned” about climate change, and they are more likely to be worried about the issue if they live in Asia, South America, or Africa.

    Fears about ISIS came in second
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  • G.S. –

    “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

    Science is the best tool we have for explaining things rationally, but it has its limits. Dowsing appears to be one of the outliers. My own well driller used the technique, and got us water. Maybe it was a lucky guess, maybe something else. Once again, the military leads the way in pragmatism –

    http://www.canadiandowsers.org/resources/articles/military-government-and-big-business-use-dowsing

    And why Jerry Brown wants to retire to Williams is beyond me. It’s not a particularly attractive place.

  • Mo Flow- Thanks for everything! Most people don’t realize what a tough and often thankless job you have/had here…

    Guy McPherson and JC Dolph: I want to thank you both equally because you have done so much for me since I started following this site (and yes, it’s all about me. I am a human being after all haha). There is a Buddhist saying that goes something like: “Your problem is that you think you have time.” You have both reminded me, in your own ways, how important it is to cherish the now, to make the most of our living moments, to do all we can for our loved ones and the world while we’re here. As Guy says, even though we know we’ll die, “The good news is, we get to LIVE!”

    Wren: Thank you for posting that Mario Savio speech. The first time (and maybe only time?) I ever saw it was in the documentary “Berkeley in the 60s” and it gave me chills then. Wish that guy was still around…

    Pat- I often see you quote the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement with “…thou shalt not procreate.” That is actually the very opposite of their approach, which is, “May we live long and die out.” They/we don’t command anyone to do anything (nor could they/we anyway). The decision not to pro-create is VOLUNTARY.

  • Wow, “the hits keep coming” indeed….

    I have to think you’ve seen this Guy, but if not human extinction mentioned by the article and in the actual paper the article is based upon (although somewhat qualified).
    “Humans face extinction if plant destruction continues: ‘Laws of thermodynamics have no mercy'”
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/humans-face-extinction-if-plant-destruction-continues-laws-thermodynamics-have-no-mercy-1511026

    The paper itself:

    “Human domination of the biosphere: Rapid discharge of the earth-space battery foretells the future of humankind”

    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/07/14/1508353112.abstract

    A text selection from the paper:

    “If H. sapiens does not go extinct, the human pop-
    ulation will decline drastically as we will be
    forced to return to making a living as hunter‐
    gatherers or simple horticulturalists. Also,
    the earth after the collapse of human civi-
    lization will be a very different place than the
    biosphere that supported the rise of civiliza-
    tion. There will be a long-lasting legacy of al-
    tered climate, landscapes, and biogeochemical
    cycles, depleted and dispersed stocks of fossil
    fuels,metals, and nuclear ores, and diminished
    biodiversity. The most powerful species in the
    3.5-billion-year history of life has transformed
    the earth and left a mark that will endure long
    after its passing.”

    I take issue with the way they describe Earth as if it is some giant “biodome” and basically just a human life support system, plus the mechanistic language “battery” etc…. but then again the lead author is an engineer (okay he has a PhD in Ecology but his BS/MS is mech engineering)

    Plus other nonsense like that we will “return” to a “hunter-gatherer lifestyle” as if that were possible even assuming habitat somehow persists.

    But I do like the closing line (again the mechanistic metaphor of Earth’s biomass, aka this community of life on Earth, as a “tank” like the gas tank of your car not withstanding)

    “There simply is no reserve tank of biomass for planet Earth. The laws of ther-
    modynamics have no mercy. Equilibrium is
    inhospitable, sterile, and final.”

  • Are we going extinct without knowing the “Y” in YAH?

    (You Are Here – 4)

  • FYI: this is how methane works. https://rt.com/news/310256-petrol-station-blast-russia/

    I wish I would not wish, but I can’t. I selfishly wish for a sweet death.
    I also pray a lot. But considering this word cannot be used without a long explanation of what I mean by pray, I’d rather not talk about that.

    thank you mo, very appreciated.

  • @Gerald Spezio

    Thanks a lot for mentioning “Agafia”, I’ve seen it some weeks ago, absolutely amazing people.

    Maybe you will like this one about a man who were a successful, professional photographer… until that day he went to Hiroshima:


    Japans nacked Island Hermit

  • goavs Nice catch. I stumbled onto another of his (their) papers with full access

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/541825b4e4b0128725f88650/t/54c6d1f3e4b0d1b1ec57335f/1422316019361/PNAS-2015-Schramski-1423502112.pdf

    Metabolic theory predicts whole-ecosystem properties
    John R. Schramski a,1 , Anthony I. Dell b,c , John M. Grady d, Richard M. Sibly e, and James H. Brown Should be a mouthful.

    And in regards my previous post about the worst dam planned for North America, Site C – the “knife wielding” man with a Guy Fawkes masque on is not “anonymous” but still quite dead via who knows how many slugs.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/james-daniel-mcintyre-id-d-as-man-shot-by-rcmp-in-dawson-creek-1.3160317

  • Jeff S

    I am not predicting complete collapse in September of 2015, but do anticipate a major jolt between September 2015 and December 2016. Indeed, there are numerous indicators that a significant ‘reset’ is already underway.

    On the local scene, the biggest foreign exchange earner is in deep shit, with dairy-produce prices around half of what they were a year ago. The partial collapse of the value of the NZ dollar (from 88 to 65 cents US) ameliorates the pain slightly but in terms of the local economy the pain has only just begun: massive job losses and commensurate fall in local spending are underway. Indeed, I was in town for the first time in several weeks and noted two more retail premises had closed.

    The ‘low’ oil prices (again about half what they were a year ago) are causing the local oil sector to languish, with commensurate job losses and the flow on effect to the engineering sector, which is downsizing.

    Although ‘The monster has momentum’ and change to the political-economic system is impossible, in practice, it is clear that there is no basis to anything that the powers that be say or do: they are simply projecting a ‘hologram’ which is completely disconnected from reality but holds the masses in awe.

    Indeed, anyone with a brain that still functions properly regards the pronouncements of ‘world leaders’ as idiotic theatre.

    A system which is run by lunatics is, of course, doomed to fairly failure. We have endured 15 years of theatre, during which TPTB have managed to make everything WORSE.

    September 2015 also refers to environmental aspects such as the California drought and the meltdown of the Artic: we will have a much clearer view of how things stand in Septem4ber.

  • I’m sad to see you leave, mo. I know I’ve been a real asshole lately, sorry.

  • Dahr Jamail’s latest at Truthout reflects the grieving aspect that we were discussing after Carolyn’s article on this site…

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/31963-mourning-the-changes-that-surround-us-readers-speak-out-on-climate

  • @guy, thanks for those updates from the world of academia. “Humans AND the biota”, as though we are not part of it.. !!! Sorry I’m not in touch with any tech whizzes these days.

    @mo, thanks for all the fish. You probably have the right idea.

  • No offense, Mike k, but that’s not it. Rather, it’s what Bud was discussing. The people who need to dominate the discourse and their tactics for doing so are rooted in some pretty tragic and disgusting psychological ills.

  • Thanks, mo flow!

    As Nicholas Chiviliu, the 100% Mayan who was Martin Prechtel’s shamanic mentor said, ordinary things seen in a ritual context become the extraordinary things that they really are. For the ininitiated, they remain most ordinary.

    And yet when asked to hew to the rigor of scientific thinking, begging off on a claim of irrelavancy is the easy way out. Arbitrariness then rules as to what’s ordinary and what’s extraordinary. As Terence McKenna noted, physicists try to acknowledge only one miracle: the Big Bang.

  • Mo flow, sorry i didn’t initially notice. Best of luck with future plans, thanks a LOT for doing the hard work of managing this forum, and doing a GREAT job at it.

    Kevin Moore: interesting info!! A couple of points.

    The masses aren’t simply being held in awe by holograms. They keep working, they keep shopping, they keep on being “normal,” and this is the key thing which keeps the system functioning, particularly the labor power they sell to the oligarchs, be they global or local, state, private or even “co-op” managers, the labor power which then produces the “grand parade of lifeless packaging” (Peter Gabriel, back when in Genesis) which is sold back to us as pseudo-sustenance. It is the working people of the world who keep on producing and reproducing the very system which oppresses them (including ourselves, not counting any oligarchs lurking here.:-))

    September may actually bring hints of a drastic climate shift in California, from drought to flood. The last couple of days, an unusually strong and unusually early Eastern Pacific hurricane brought heavy rains to the southern half of the state, San Diego exceeded its July monthly rainfall record total in one day, this past Saturday the 18th. Yesterday, a bridge in the Mojave Desert on I-10, one of only three US superhighways which go from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and which connects LA to Phoenix, was knocked out by 5+ inches of rain in just 6 hours, turning the dry wash that’s normally under the bride into a raging river, and the highway is still shut down. More tropical storms appear to be forming. This pattern has a clear El Nino signature on it.

    “Indeed, anyone with a brain that still functions properly regards the pronouncements of ‘world leaders’ as idiotic theatre.”

    Mighty few people with both functioning brains and senses which are free enough of conditioning to actually sense what’s going on. Even fairly intelligent people are generally pressured into thinking they have to believe at least one of the several false narratives they are being fed about our situation, including the “left” idea that all we need are better leaders willing to live in peace and to implement “green solutions” to everything.

    “A system which is run by lunatics is, of course, doomed to fairly failure. We have endured 15 years of theatre, during which TPTB have managed to make everything WORSE.”

    EH? The theater has been going on MUCH longer than that, at least since the mid 19th Century.

  • Corrigendum: For the uninitiated, they remain most ordinary. (i.e. the uninitiated have a hiatus in their perception.)

  • “Prof. Stephan Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xSYRjhV0J4

    Good luck looking for aliens, or Prof. Hawking for that matter, since he passed many years ago.

  • That should have been:

    A system which is run by lunatics is, of course, doomed to failure, and fairly soon. We have endured 15 years of theatre, during which TPTB have managed to make everything WORSE.

    I agree that the theatre has been going on for decades, indeed for centuries, but my reference to 15 years was to particularly highlight the shenanigans that have characterised ‘world leadership’ since the bursting of the dotcom bubble, the collapse of ENRON, the bursting of the sub-prime bubble, the passing of the peak of conventional oil extraction etc. The financial predicament is brought home when one considers that US debt has increased more under Obama than under all previous presidents combined. Similarly, fakery has taken over in China, and monstrous speculative bubbles have been blown in recent years….all of which must end catastrophically.

    Whereas there was always a degree of fakery and fraud within ‘the system’ in the past, over the past 15 years fakery and fraud have become the very essence of ‘the system’. My own investigations have revealed that there is almost no substance anywhere in any western government, and governance primarily consists of making ever more absurd statements and having the corporate media repeat them.

    I have detected a shift in mood over recent months, and many of those who a year or two ago thought they could bring about change by working with ‘the system’ or within ‘the system’ now openly admit that ‘the system’ (and here I am particularly referring the NZ central and local government, but I’m sure the same applies elsewhere) is totally corrupt and irredeemable. We are being driven off the cliff…..and currently seem to be in a ‘Wile E Coyote moment’ whereby everything remains okay until we look down.

  • ”ben Affleck cradles puppy, with wedding ring on”

  • ”demi moore kills ben Affleck in her pool. nobody home”

  • ”ben Affleck cradles puppy, with wedding ring on”

    Rather unusual for puppies to wear wedding rings. Maybe it was a wading ring? And who is Mr. Affleck: are we perchance speaking of
    Robert Thankyoufornotbreeding Atack?

    ”demi moore kills ben Affleck in her pool. nobody home”

    Another activist? Why a half moore? Any kin of kevin moore?

  • Ben = bin, meaning ‘son of’. The puppy was the son of a bitch.
    A fleck of something from that puppy was floating in the wading ring pool.
    Outraged, neighbors called in the RCMP who promptly tasered the puppy and it drowned. The puppy’s manifesto, which was also floating in the pool along with the brown flecks and the lifeless body of the dog, had one phrase still legible after soaking in water and blood. That phrase was, “Thank you for not breeding.”
    Demi moore is a koan more often expressed as “Less is more”.
    You have to read between the lines, also over and under the lines to make sense of all this.
    I hope this clears things up. 😉

  • Phil Morrison Says:
    July 20th, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    “Prof. Stephan Hawking backs venture to listen for aliens.”
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    I was wondering when he was going to become a Fox News fan (Exposé on the Church Crutch of Euthanasia).

  • Goavs,

    It’s nice to see you posting here again:

    “I take issue with the way they describe Earth as if it is some giant “biodome” and basically just a human life support system, plus the mechanistic language “battery” etc….”

    You are, from what I remember of your comments before, very insightful and not anthropocentric. These are are rare qualities which have much to contribute to what (IMO) NBL was meant to provide.

    Stay a while if you can bear it.

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    The present El Niño event, on the cusp of attaining “strong” intensity, has a chance to become the most powerful on record.

    The event — defined by the expanding, deepening pool of warmer-than-normal ocean water in the tropical Pacific — has steadily grown stronger since the spring.
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    The Voluntary Extinction Movement:

    Q: What is the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement?

    VHEMT (pronounced vehement) is a movement not an organization. It’s a movement advanced by people who care about life on planet Earth.

    We don’t carry on about how the human race has shown itself to be a greedy, amoral parasite on the once-healthy face of this planet. That type of negativity offers no solution to the inexorable horrors which human activity is causing.

    Rather, The Movement presents an encouraging alternative to the callous exploitation and wholesale destruction of Earth’s ecology.

    As VHEMT Volunteers know, the hopeful alternative to the extinction of millions of species of plants and animals is the voluntary extinction of one species: Homo sapiens… us.

    Each time another one of us decides to not add another one of us to the burgeoning billions already squatting on this ravaged planet, another ray of hope shines through the gloom.

    When every human chooses to stop breeding, Earth’s biosphere will be allowed to return to its former glory, and all remaining creatures will be free to live, die, evolve (if they believe in evolution), and will perhaps pass away, as so many of Nature’s “experiments” have done throughout the eons.
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    I just sum it up with:
    “Thou shalt not procreate.”
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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.
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    Sadly, this is what we’ve come to:
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    The Voluntary Extinction Movement says:
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia says:
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”
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    he problem is Overpopulation! We don’t need to “Feed the Hungry,” we need to “Starve the Masses” in order to achieve a sustainable population that, even so, will still be hard-pressed to survive the coming violent results of our past stupidity.
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    Live simply, kill nothing. Eat only that which falls from the trees, sleep on the ground, drink from the river.
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    PLANT NO CROPS, BUILD NO CITIES.
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  • @comments moderator – My last two comments on the thread below “Edge of Extinction Last Automated Tweet” were tagged “awaiting moderation.” Since this is the first time in years of posting that I have seen this tag, why are my posts being moderated?

  • Humans have violated the sacred shadetree mechanic’s code which is…

    •Don’t take anything apart if you don’t know how to put it back together.
    •If you do take it apart, save all the pieces, for obvious reasons.

    So things come to light… like this video curtesy of Sea Shepherd Australia;
    things that you always knew intuitively without peer reviewed proof. And now, after it’s too late, and many many parts have been thrown away, fragments of the actual evidence are revealed:

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  • @pat

    We don’t need to “Feed the Hungry,” we need to “Starve the Masses” in order to achieve a sustainable population that, even so, will still be hard-pressed to survive the coming violent results of our past stupidity.
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    Live simply, kill nothing.

    “Save the planet, kill yourself”

    Sorry, but I still don’t get your message. What now? Hard-pressed survival oder NTE?

    We don’t need to feed the hungry…

    Well, that really sounds like a sick message of that 1% who just don’t even know what HUNGER is at all 😎 You are repeating exactly the thinking of that sick 1%. And you don’t know what HUNGER is absolutely for shure. I know what HUNGER is and I tell you:

    That day will com when those HUNGRY MASSES will eat that 1%, muhahaha, and I will like it, that day of JUSTICE, whoooouuuu 😎

    … in order to achieve a sustainable population that, even so, will still be hard-pressed to survive the coming violent results…

    What now? NTE or “survival and a sustainable population”?

    And then, after all, what now? “Kill nothing” or “kill yourself”?

    Most of what you say is totally conform with the faschist messages of the 1%, are you are aware of that fact?

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    I’ve been posting here, on and off, since 2007-ish. I long ago explained my position – and now I just post the basic fundamental idea… repetitively, I know.
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    The fact is that “The Solution,” (as pointed out long ago by Guy) is horrific – and the result is the same, however it is carried out, either by fascists or well-meaning hippie environmentalists. – or, most likely, not at all, while apathetic fools watch…
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    Remember, when hillbilly cannibalism rules and you are slow roasting your neighbor’s thigh, we were always what we are now and will be forever.
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    Tear down civilization, dismantle the toxic infrastructure of industrial civilization, live simply, plant no crops, build no cities.
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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.
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    Sadly, this is what we’ve come to:
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    The Voluntary Extinction Movement says:
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia says:
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”
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    Live simply, kill nothing. Eat only that which falls from the trees, sleep on the ground, drink from the river.
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  • @pat

    … while apathetic fools watch…

    Yeah, and to get a perfect definition of “apathetic” I just have to recall that statement of yours in your penultimate (obviously now deleted)comment:

    We don’t need to feed the hungry…

    And now you go on:

    Remember, when hillbilly cannibalism rules and you are slow roasting your neighbor’s thigh, we were always what we are now and will be forever.

    Before I have to “roast” my neighbour, that 1% will be roasted, there is much more meat on em, whoooouuuu 🙂

  • Human domination of the biosphere: Rapid discharge of the earth-space battery foretells the future of humankind
    by: Schramski, Gattie, and Brown

    Abstract:
    “Earth is a chemical battery where, over evolutionary time with a trickle-charge of photosynthesis using solar energy, billions of tons of living biomass were stored in forests and other ecosystems and in vast reserves of fossil fuels. In just the last few hundred years, humans extracted exploitable energy from these living and fossilized biomass fuels to build the modern industrial-technological-informational economy, to grow our population to more than 7 billion, and to transform the biogeochemical cycles and biodiversity of the earth. This rapid discharge of the earth’s store of organic energy fuels the human domination of the biosphere, including conversion of natural habitats to agricultural fields and the resulting loss of native species, emission of carbon dioxide and the resulting climate and sea level change, and use of supplemental nuclear, hydro, wind, and solar energy sources. The laws of thermodynamics governing the trickle-charge and rapid discharge of the earth’s battery are universal and absolute; the earth is only temporarily poised a quantifiable distance from the thermodynamic equilibrium of outer space. Although this distance from equilibrium is comprised of all energy types, most critical for humans is the store of living biomass.With the rapid depletion of this chemical energy, the earth is shifting back toward the inhospitable equilibrium of outer space with fundamental ramifications for the biosphere and humanity. Because there is no substitute or replacement energy for living biomass, the remaining distance from equilibrium that will be required to support human life is unknown.”

    Seems to be a thermodynamic positive feedback in there – use up the energy in the chemical storage battery & close the distance from the thermodynamic equilibrium of outer space, which uses up more of the battery, which…

    “If the thunder don’t get you, then the lightning will!”

    Full text of the study is pay-walled at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences website, but can be accessed at CoIC: http://collapseofindustrialcivilization.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/pnas-2015-schramski-1508353112.pdf

  • “The trouble is, you think you have time.” (Buddha) “Your yesterday is gone, and tomorrow is doubtful, therefore value today and act as though you will not have a tomorrow.” (Imam Ali (as) “You may delay, but time will not, and lost time is never found again.” (Ben Franklin)

    “When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived.” (Henry David Thoreau)

  • Sabine,

    Great to see you here still as well and thanks.

    I’ve checked in here off and on but with the forum postings almost extinct (ha!) and some usual suspects in the blog posts I’d rather not read nor engage, plus being very busy in general I haven’t had as much time to be here but am very glad you and others are here and posting and keeping his place as sane as possible in this insane world.

    So, reading more into that paper I posted yesterday (DOI:10.1073/pnas.1508353112) and that islandraider just posted again above, and I am fairly certain this paper in PNAS predicts human extinction by 2030-2031!

    Also, this is NOT even due to abrupt climate change (at least exclusively) but only a function of destruction of habitat due to human population overshoot.

    They compute a value they name Omega (as in the Greek letter as representation of the value). That is the # of years left, at current rates of consumption, that the available global phytomass storage could feed the human race. They state this value as the absolute maximum number of years left because they are being extremely conservative in their estimation (as is the standard for academia and science in general)

    Omega is computed as a function of the total available global phytomass divided by the human population energy needs (global population x metabolic energy needs per human)

    In the year 0 Omega = 67,000 years. So at the year 0, 2015 years ago, the human race could persist for no longer than 67,000 more years at the population and available phytomass at that time. In the year 2000 Omega was computed to be 1,029 years, a 98.5% decline in 2000 years. Again this is not only an absolute maximum number but relevant only to that year and that specific population and phytomass availability.

    Now it’s 2015, taking liberties with the math a bit to simplify, if we just compute an average delta Omega over the past 2000 years (dOmega/dt). We get 67000-1029/2000-0 or 65971/2000 = ~33 years/year (see the slope in Figure 5) So Omega declines on average about 33 years every calendar year, now the rate is not constant but approximate, it’s actually much worse (larger) now under industrial civilization.

    Therefore in 2000, Omega = 1029. Assuming 33 years/year decline, in 2015 we are now at Omega = 535 years.

    Carrying this forward the “limiting” case being Omega = 1, in 2030 Omega = ~7 years, but at the rate of 33 yrs/yr Omega reaches 1 in the first quarter of the year 2030!!!

    This means all of the phytomass on the planet would be required to sustain the human population for 1 more year as of early 2030, or another way to say this is humans go extinct some time in late 2030-early 2031, according to this paper and their assumptions and calculations and my assumption that the historical rate of decline of their Omega value over 2000 years continues for 30 more years (beyond the year 2000, their last data point)

    Again, this is a best case scenario estimate assuming a constant delta Omega rate and all available phytomass as human food, both of which are ridiculously conservative.

    Please if anyone sees issues with what I have stated above, math or otherwise, let me know, just my thoughts after reading and trying to digest this paper and using their numbers etc… I could have made a bad assumption somewhere.

  • Hi Curious,

    That picture of the starving little boy was heartbreaking. The tears are close to flowing. Compassion is needed.

    Lovely post, Wren:

    “Humans have violated the sacred shadetree mechanic’s code which is…

    •Don’t take anything apart if you don’t know how to put it back together.
    •If you do take it apart, save all the pieces, for obvious reasons.

    …things that you always knew intuitively without peer reviewed proof. And now, after it’s too late, and many many parts have been thrown away, fragments of the actual evidence are revealed:”

    Discard nothing, is what I’m saying.

    Mo,

    I still can’t find where you say you’re leaving the site. So I’m hoping that all you farewell-sayers are deluded. 🙂

  • …and this boys and girls is why I KNOW we ARE HORRIBLY SCREWED

  • admit it, Guy, you are getting rich!

  • Hey MT,

    Where did you dig up this Ron Bailey Free Market Cato slime. I know, a sewer.

    His smile pisses me off more than anything. I left a review on Amazon without ever reading a fuckin’ word.

  • Edwin Tufte fans will be gratified by the incredibly powerful visual info contained at Neven’s site.

    It is an unsurpassed visual display of science, but the prognostications are a deadly horror.

    Neven has reproduced Jim Hunt’s scintillating work from his Arctic Sea Ice forum, “The Great White Con.”

    All 3 animated videos are truly terrific, but the most moving for me shows the recent reduction of sea ice in the Bering Strait, Beaufort Sea, & MacKenzie River delta.

    As informative 1 & 1/2 minutes of brain nourishment as you have ever experienced.

    So simple, so profound, so predictive, so perverse.

    We are watching the great race to extinction from abrupt methane release?

    seach; Neven’s blog, Beaufort and Northwest Passage videos

  • How much carbon is stored in 7.2 billion human bodies? Will this carbon be significant enough to be considered in future climate models?

  • kevin moore Says:
    July 20th, 2015 at 10:58 pm
    “That should have been:

    A system which is run by lunatics is, of course, doomed to failure, and fairly soon. We have endured 15 years of theatre, during which TPTB have managed to make everything WORSE.

    I agree that the theatre has been going on for decades, indeed for centuries, but my reference to 15 years was to particularly highlight the shenanigans that have characterised ‘world leadership’ since the bursting of the dotcom bubble, the collapse of ENRON, the bursting of the sub-prime bubble, the passing of the peak of conventional oil extraction etc. The financial predicament is brought home when one considers that US debt has increased more under Obama than under all previous presidents combined. Similarly, fakery has taken over in China, and monstrous speculative bubbles have been blown in recent years….all of which must end catastrophically.

    Whereas there was always a degree of fakery and fraud within ‘the system’ in the past, over the past 15 years fakery and fraud have become the very essence of ‘the system’. My own investigations have revealed that there is almost no substance anywhere in any western government, and governance primarily consists of making ever more absurd statements and having the corporate media repeat them.

    I have detected a shift in mood over recent months, and many of those who a year or two ago thought they could bring about change by working with ‘the system’ or within ‘the system’ now openly admit that ‘the system’ (and here I am particularly referring the NZ central and local government, but I’m sure the same applies elsewhere) is totally corrupt and irredeemable. We are being driven off the cliff…..and currently seem to be in a ‘Wile E Coyote moment’ whereby everything remains okay until we look down.”

    True to much of this. Another thing that has happened since the dot com collapse is 9/11, so far the mother of all false flag government inside job operations, which has become the organizing them of the propaganda upholding the consensus trance.

    I’m glad to hear people in NZ are waking up. They sure aren’t in California, in fact the left illusion is stronger than ever, with Bernie Sanders running for president as a “socialist” (never mind that he’s peddling European-style social democracy which has been shown thoroughly bankrupt over the last couple of decades, Americans don’t know that), with Obama’s overtures to the government in Cuba (which is ditching any pretenses of socialism it ever had as well), the Iran nuke deal (never mind that this has to do with US geo-strategy to counter its rivals Russia and China, part of the Grand Chessboard), the Pope’s climate encyclical,… To listen to/read “progressive” media such as Democracy Now and The Nation, one could think the second coming is around the corner. And this vision is totally wedded to the unsustainable technological/industrial society and “development.”

  • Those that do not like CounterPunch have their reasons, I guess, but their stuff is so delicious. SCREW SCIENCE!!

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/21/science-vs-the-real-world-on-mauna-kea/

    Check this article out that speaks for me also:

    “I speak only for myself, here, but I will go so far to say I WISH WESTERN SCIENCE NEVER EXISTED. I know in today’s dominant culture my wish is pure blasphemy. As my friend Derrick Jensen noted in his brilliant work Dreams, science is the new monotheism. The old monotheisms – Christianity, Judaism, Islam – succeeded in removing meaning from the natural world and placed meaning in the hands of a jealous, abstract God dwelling in far-off heavens. Science, then, erased God and obliterated any possibility of meaning with Him. When I make these arguments, I’ve found it to be like Jensen has observed, when you blaspheme God, you are called a disbeliever. When you blaspheme science, you are called an idiot.

    Still, on the whole, science has been a disaster for life on Earth. The first problem with science is the first problem with so many products of the murderous culture we live in. The first problem with science is science’s epistemology is rooted in this culture’s epistemology. And, this culture’s epistemology is based on domination. Epistemology is the study of how we know what we know.

    One way to understand science is to trace what the leading scientific epistemologists have to say. Remember Sir Francis Bacon from your 6th grade science class? He invented what we call today “The Scientific Method.” He said his “only earthly wish is to stretch the deplorably narrow limits of man’s dominion over the universe” by “putting her (nature) on the rack and extracting her secrets.” As if that wasn’t scary enough, Bacon went on to say, “I am come in very truth leading you to Nature with all her children to bind her to your service and make her your slave.”

    WHICH REMINDS ME:

    Last night I heard a radio program that claimed to be on the verge of discovering how the brain works. Bull Roar.! Never ever going to happen. Impossible. To think so is ignorant.

  • “One way to understand science is to trace what the leading scientific epistemologists have to say. Remember Sir Francis Bacon from your 6th grade science class? He invented what we call today ‘The Scientific Method.’ He said his ‘only earthly wish is to stretch the deplorably narrow limits of man’s dominion over the universe’ by ‘putting her (nature) on the rack and extracting her secrets.’ As if that wasn’t scary enough, Bacon went on to say, ‘I am come in very truth leading you to Nature with all her children to bind her to your service and make her your slave.’”

    Charming!

  • Bacon said, “I am come in very truth leading you to Nature with all her children to bind her to your service and make her your slave.”

    Gross, absolutely — but as a lifelong scientist/engineer with highly psychedelic overtones, let me remind you what these thinkers were up against:

    They had NO IDEA why anything was the way it was — the scientific paradigm was a way to extract valid knowledge (ie, to KNOW something was true, provisionally) from the seemingly chaotic and unexplainable universe they saw before them.

    There was the religious “explanation” (no explanation at all), or an extremely rigorous regimen of rejecting any arguments that didn’t meet certain criteria ….. etc, etc, you know all this already.

    The big problem was, as always, that any approach that leads to success on some level will also be exploited by the evil power-hungry psychopaths among us to increase their power. In other words, the scientists (a naive and otherworldly bunch from the beginning) were easily turned to the dark side, bringing us to where we are today.

  • Sword of Damocles

    Dr. Grant: ….Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions.

  • We should always note the distinction between science and technology, science being primarily the seeking of knowledge, whereas technology is the application of knowledge acquired via science.

    Two particular instances come to mind;

    Clara, the wife of Fritz Haber, pleaded with her husband to abandon research into the formulation and application of poisonous gases to warfare, and when he persisted with experiments to create ever more noxious substances and systems to deliver them into the trenches of ‘the enemy’ she took her own life. Seemingly unfazed, Fritz continue to work on nastier and nastier gases, each advancement in protection from gases being countered with a new gas that made the protective devices ineffective. The ultimate ‘success’ was phosgene, which seeped through clothing and was absorbed by moist organic tissue, causing horrific chemical burns. Apparently, Haber regarded himself as a great patriot and was only doing his duty in putting his knowledge to furtherance of the agenda of the nation.

    Einstein is said to have commented: “If I had known what they were going to do with it I would have become a shoemaker.”

    In terms of ‘battles between tribes’, each advancement in science and technology has only ever provided short-term advantages to the ‘tribe’ that acquired it.

    I am not saying anything new as far as long-time readers of NBL are concerned, but for the benefit of newcomers it is worth mentioning that old-style tribalism has now been replaced by a form of international tribalism, whereby members of ‘the 0.1% club’ use all the systems at their disposal to control and exploit the 99.99%. Borders mean nothing, and the latest proposals for ‘free trade’ are a cynical attempt to increase the power of the 0.1% transnationally. .

    Corruption and lies have become so endemic that catastrophic failure of the system is inevitable. Not just failure of the economic-financial system, of course, but stress to the point of failure of the very systems that make life as we know it possible.

    Decisions made by governments are no longer rational by any measure, and amount to continuous sabotage. Yet governments persist with policies that cause inevitable collapse of everything, including government.

    It is all truly bizarre and beyond any kind of rational analysis.

    Today I had a phone call from yet another person who has been driven to despair by ‘the system’; in his case this amounts to considering declining life-saving surgery because, as he sees it, there is little left to live for. And we are living in supposedly in one of the most desirable of locations in the world.

    In my state if illness I have listened to a number of Sherlock Homes stories, and one in particular comes to mind: the plot revolves around the murder of a young woman engaged as a helper at an apparently well-run unwanted baby centre, and the suspected murder of babies, in order to claim insurance.

    To cut a long story short. when confronted with the evidence that she had killed babies, the owner of the business declared that hers was an act of great love for the babies because she had given them a painless death and had protected them from having to grow up in squalid conditions which would lead them into lives of drudgery, ill-health, abuse and misery etc. The proprietor regarded poisoning the babies as the greatest act of kindness she could perform.

  • Not to forget, (the jew) Fritz Haber’s gases were later put to (effective?) use to gas his own relatives in the Third Reich’s gas chambers. What a gas!

    And let’s not forget that while Einstein wished he’d become a sheomaker, there indeed was an Ernst Friedrich Schumacher of Small Is Beautiful fame!

  • I guess Fritz Haber reincarnated as John McCain. What a waste of a an individual. Read this about the scum bag that ws written in 1999.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/the-horrors-of-john-mccain-war-hero-or-war-criminal/

  • Apneaman- Thank you so much for this link:

    The Depths of Animal Grief
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/nature/animal-grief/
    “A researcher once played a recording of an elephant who had died. The sound was coming from a speaker hidden in a thicket. The family went wild calling, looking all around. The dead elephant’s daughter called for days afterward. The researchers never again did such a thing….”

    I both loved and hated it. The author presents pages of compelling evidence, but, probably out of fear of his peer review board, he refuses to come out and say yes, animals have the same or greater range of emotions that humans do (as if we are not animals too!).
    The closest he gets … is to present the evidence and say that it brings up ‘the question’ of whether these animals are actually feeling the emotions they exhibit. It’s that old Cartesian set of blinders again… that wretched Descartes, who denied that animals even feel pain! I know that the author believes in his heart that his thesis is true, and any sensitive reader will come to the same conclusion. I just found it interesting (and depressing) that the Francis Bacon/Cartesian mindset still rules in the halls of “science”.

    Guy- I am so looking forward to seeing and reading the book you and Pauline wrote!
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  • One thing to keep in mind: more and more of the populace, especially in the US and the rest of the hyper-industrialized world, but increasingly everywhere, is complicit because it’s plugged into the whole cellphone thing and increasingly dependent upon it for sustenance. I’m amazed how many people i see who cannot seem to function without checking their “smart” devices every couple of minutes, doing stupid things like walking without looking where they’re going because they’re starting at the screen, not to mention doing the same while biking or driving. The last thing these people want is for that entire complex to go down, they are vested in the monster’s survival.

  • Turkeys are people too.

    Naturalist Jim Hutto’s remarkable experience of being imprinted on by group of wild turkey hatchlings, and raising them to adulthood and beyond, in the remote wilderness of northern Florida.

  • @ goavs

    Since you requested a critique on referenced article:

    Delta is a variable. A constant Omega delta can’t help much.

    Energy is not a distance, nor can earth be out of equilibrium with space. These and other basic premises/errors get your paper off to a poor start.

    The math was wanting. Math rigged to fit a data set makes for a shaky building.

    Sorry, but you did ask.

  • Lily Tomlin:
    “Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.”

  • Jerry Brown’s climate warning: ‘We are talking about extinction’

    http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article27998554.html

  • Stay tuned for possible additional efforts by David Siders at the Sacramento Bee.

  • Oh, forgot to ask, can somebody call Anne Heche and see if she wants to give Mr. Hansen the revolving door from her closet?

  • Some good “non-navel-gazing” comments here again,

    Thanks to all of you, including Apneaman and Wren.

  • July 21, 2015

    Ocean Temperatures At Record High

    Of all the excess heat that results from people’s emissions, 93.4% goes into oceans. Accordingly, ocean heat has strongly increased over the years.

    NOAA analysis shows that, for the oceans on the Northern Hemisphere, the June 2015 sea surface temperature was at a record high 0.87°C (1.57°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F)

    [further down]

    As the continued snow decline on Greenland also illustrates, high temperatures can be expected to keep causing further decline of the snow and ice cover for many weeks to come, given that the minimum sea ice extent is typically reached about half September.

    As the image below shows, sea surface temperatures as high as 10.1°C (50.1°F) were recorded in Baffin Bay, off the west coast of Greenland, on July 20, 2015.

    The danger is that these high temperatures will cause the Arctic sea ice to collapse and unleash huge methane eruptions from the Arctic Ocean’s seafloor, in turn driving temperatures up even higher and causing more extreme weather events, wildfires, etc.

    [in another realm]

    Gold slumps to five-year low, dollar at highest in months
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/20/us-markets-global-idUSKCN0PU00H20150720

    Gold prices plunged to their lowest in more than five years on Monday, at one point dropping 4 percent on aggressive selling out of China, while the U.S. dollar hit a three-month high on expectations for higher U.S. interest rates.

    Equity markets posted modest gains, with the focus remaining on earnings season.

    The dramatic sell-off in gold came in a matter of minutes in Shanghai. More than 33 tonnes of gold, worth about $1.3 billion, traded in two minutes.

    The exact reason for the selling was unclear. Recent strength in the U.S. currency and expectations for higher U.S. rates have undermined the case for holding gold and other precious metals, while analysts also note that China imported a record volume of gold in 2013 that has created an oversupply situation. Still, the swiftness of the decline surprised traders and resulted in two separate trade halts in U.S. gold futures.

    [and]

    Other commodities were sinking as well. U.S. crude oil CLc1 fell 93 cents to $49.96, the first time it has been below $50 since April. Brent crude LCOc1 was last down 59 cents a barrel at $56.51.

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    Remember the Pit and the Pendulum? That pendulum, with its cutting blade dropping lower with each pass . . .

  • Thanks Gerald for that tip which led me to this as well:

    http://greatwhitecon.info/blog/

    Here, further down the page is a ca. 16 mins YouTube video (a small Ted talk)

    called “seven surprising results….” (studying the Artic sea ice) by a Dr Barber from the University of Manitoba.

    Especially interesting is his mentioning of the danger to drilling ships. He remarks on this quite casually, on the side lines. Maybe he doesn’t want to commit himself with his own opinion (not scientific), not wanting to be too offensive to our rulers and spoiling our chances to exploit the Artic “riches”.

    What does he really think? As a scientist, he won’t tell us.

    It’s worth watching. Have a look.

  • Oh Yes. I call myself a Christian Atheist so here is a quote from the bible I love.

    “God is not mocked,” Jerry Brown said, “for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”

    I can hear the wings of Justice. FINALLY.

  • Mo—-thanks for everything!! Keep posting here—-yes?

    Interesting blogs (I’ve only given a cursory look):

    http://kennorphan.com/2015/07/15/our-common-humanity/

    and another called River of Compassion.
    and great tune to lose oneself in:

  • I’ve penned and posted a short essay. It’s here.

  • @mike k

    After all, I am bored of all that doomer porn, all those empty, doomed doomer-skins, bwahaha. There is absolutely nothing for me to learn here, this scene is mostly even sicker than that stupid consumerherd. I’ll leave this place to those who deserve it, who belong to it naturally by Karma.

    I have noticed that Guy McPherson is never involved in any real conversation on this blog, it must be for very good reasons, he spares his time to persue a live of excellence instead of getting involved in some perpetuated and totally empty hate “conversations”.

    I wish you all the best, my friend, we know eachother, we are One, we can never be seperated, no people who love can ever be seperated. Just as Dr. Guy McPherson says:

    Only LOVE remains.

    I leave with the same words I sent to mo flow, who also left this place:

    We need, in love, to practice only this: letting each other go. For holding on comes easily; we do not need to learn it.

    Rainer Maria Rilke

    http://tinyurl.com/oml84jv

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    July 21, 2015

    A new study released Tuesday reveals that the poverty rates among American children have risen under the Obama Administration, especially African-American, American Indian, and Latino children.

    The study from the Annie E. Casey Foundation showed poverty rates among all children have grown since 2008, when the rate was 18%; the rate increased to 22% by 2013. The report indicated particularly bleak news for African-American, American Indian, and Latino children, stating, “On nearly all of the measures that [it] track[s], African-American, American Indian and Latino children continued to experience negative outcomes at rates that were higher than the national average.”
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    Tear down civilization, dismantle the toxic infrastructure of industrial civilization, live simply, plant no crops, build no cities.
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    The children suffer.
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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.
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    Sadly, this is what we’ve come to:
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    The Voluntary Extinction Movement says:
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia says:
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”
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    Live simply, kill nothing. Eat only that which falls from the trees, sleep on the ground, drink from the river.
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    PLANT NO CROPS, BUILD NO CITIES.
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  • last couple of messages i’ve tried to post to this blog haven’t gone through. fortunately, i copied and pasted the last one before hitting send, so i didn’t lose it. try again:

    guy, regarding your radio show, i’ve only listened a few times. aside from a show or 2 with bad technical glitches (i skipped one show because the sound quality was poor), i’ve been very impressed. u’re as good on the air as u are on a stage speaking to an audience, which is pretty damned fucking good imo. mike’s pretty good too, and u get some very interesting interviewees. scoring the likes of cindy sheehan to appear (i should say speak, which reminds me, regarding radio being a non-visual media, as u like to say, u have a great face for it!) (hey, gerald, is my rambling or obvious idiocy pissing u off yet? i hope so!) getting back on topic, for a non commercial production, i think u and mike and everyone else involved in your radio show is performing superbly (except for the technician, who i’m sure is doing the best (s)he can.

    i surreally love the theme music too, the whole, uncut, uncensored version. love it! well performed and produced, fine technical quality, great song. a doom tune indeed, bringing to mind this comparison i think u’ll like:

  • ‘It is all truly bizarre and beyond any kind of rational analysis.’ -kiwi kevin

    lyrics to ‘Black Sabbath’

    What is this that stands before me?
    Figure in black which points at me
    Turn around quick, and start to run
    Find out I’m the chosen one
    Oh nooo!
    Big black shape with eyes of fire
    Telling people their desire
    Satan’s sitting there, he’s smiling
    Watches those flames get higher and higher
    Oh no, no, please God help me!
    Is it the end, my friend?
    Satan’s coming ’round the bend
    People running ’cause they’re scared
    The people better go and beware!
    No, no, please, no!

  • We know that the Syrian civil war that helped drive the rise of the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) was itself spawned in large part by what one expert called perhaps “the worst long-term drought and most severe set of crop failures since agricultural civilizations began in the Fertile Crescent,” from 2006 to 2010.
    That drought destroyed the livelihood of 800,000 people according to the U.N. and sent vastly more into poverty. The poor and displaced fled to cities, “where poverty, government mismanagement and other factors created unrest that exploded in spring 2011,” as the study’s news release explains.
    The March 2015 study, “Climate change in the Fertile Crescent and implications of the recent Syrian drought,” found that global warming made Syria’s 2006 to 2010 drought two to three times more likely. “While we’re not saying the drought caused the war,” lead author Dr. Colin Kelley explained. “We are saying that it certainly contributed to other factors — agricultural collapse and mass migration among them — that caused the uprising.”