Edge of Extinction: Even Lizards Can’t Keep Up

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  • I guess that leaves bacteria as the only organisms that will survive the forthcoming bottleneck.

  • I’m amazed at how well the birds do in the desert heat where I am currently. We are averaging 44-46 each day and the birds don’t seem to slow down at all. Indian blue rollers, sparrows, a species of minah bird, doves and a long legged snipe type of bird that must be a ground nester are all shrieking around all day long chirruping and flapping from here to there. I know songbirds are in big trouble in many places but here in Oman the birds are plentiful. I leave water on the window ledge for them and apart from arriving with beaks gaping wide they seem to do ok. There are other tiny species (dark bronze metallic feathers – very beautiful) with long sharp sometimes curving beaks that are nectar drinkers and insect skewerers. The only lizards around are geckos – and they don’t seem so numerous. The large species of ant here are hilarious, they are long-legged and run with their abdomens pointing straight up to the sky to dissipate heat – guess it doesn’t pay to ‘drag your ass’ on hot sand.

    I offer three new drawings – they can be downloaded from my dropbox:

    http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81889320/GaianShaman1b.jpg

    http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81889320/GaianShamanWounds.jpg

    http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81889320/GainShamanEarthRaper.jpg

    Many thanks to Mike K., Paul (x2) & Sabine for your kindnesses re Bush Meat.

    mike k. your heartfelt confessional poetry is very evocative – and very personal so I will not comment too much less I wound the scar tissue. I would say, however, that we are all alone with this knowledge – even those who are surrounded by loving family and spouse (I am not) probably feel more alone than they ever have before). But by the kind of sharing you have given us I think (hope?) we lessen our aloneness somewhat – if only for a moment or two.

    Thank you, Sabine, for the suggestion of Dark Mountain. I will be back on Vancouver Island at the end of the summer (dodging wildfires as I drive from Alberta to BC) and have made contact with the Cascadia group. I hope/plan to be in attendance at their August gathering on the Island – what a great way to step back in to a life I abandoned 15 years ago – a group of like minded doomer poets (how perfect). Hoping my adult son will want to tag along with me.

  • Caroline asked – “Anybody else having an extra hard time being part of this species during this obscene “holiday”?

    YES!

    I commented to a friend yesterday that The 4th of July was probably our most disgusting holiday. She offered that Christmas, with all of it’s rampant consumption, might be the winner. We decided that if you strip all of the holidays down to their basic meaning, the 4th was probably the winner.

    Not to mention scaring all of the other life out there half to death.
    I do wildlife rehabilitation and I had 6 orphans that I raised – 2 robins,2 mourning doves and 2 grackles – all ready to be released into their world and I had to wait until this morning because my closest neighbor is in absolute love with shiny bright lights that go BOOM. He has been exploding shit for the entire last week leading up to the 4th, culminating in his most magnificent offering last night.

    Now all will be quiet again as I suspect he has blown his load!

  • What is the most probable & intelligent “prediction” about abrupt Arctic methane release that can be made based on the strongest empirical evidence accumulated thus far?

    Daily empirical & observational evidence unequivocally confirms the abrupt Arctic methane release hypothesis.

    No contradicting data of any kind is advanced by any intelligent & informed scientific observers.

    The so-called long term methane release hypothesis is dis-proven & dis-confirmed every day, & needs no elaboration.

    It is now more than 95 per cent probable that all humankind will perish from an abrupt Arctic methane release with the next ten years or sooner.

    The probability that most, possibly all, humankind will suffer unimaginable horrors from heating resulting from abrupt methane release within the next five years is at least 90 per cent.

    Those who are not dead will wish they were dead.

    Serious high tech claims about removing CO2 from the atmospheric commons are pie-in-the-sky nonsense, especially in terms of abrupt methane release.

    In 2011 Igor Semelitov’s research group observed hundreds of one kilometer diameter methane plumes in the ESAS.

    In 2013 CARVE researchers observed many massive methane plumes 150 kilometers in diameter exiting the Arctic Ocean.

    There is no “real” question that publicly funded CARVE has gathered further empirical data from the same areas.

    It is now two full years since CARVE’S original & inescapably “predictive” observations were reported.

    Absolutely no updates about CARVE’S ongoing gigantic LIFE OR DEATH observed methane releases have been made public.

    Supposedly, one needs a security clearance (from whom?)for access to this critically predictive life-or-death information.

    Can anyone advance any sound scientific reasons why CARVE’S critical observations unquestionably predicting further massive methane releases are NOT happening now?

    If the gigantic observed 150 kilometer wide plumes have mysteriously disappeared, why not tell us?

    Ditto for the claim that CARVE”S observed plumes have become bigger & more plentiful.

    Hasn’t CARVE”S simple observational & empirical 2013 “fact” been “modeled” for predictive power?

    Ditto for modeling CARVE”S subsequent observations that WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT because the information is being withheld by petty politicians.

    The very CO2 waste that will soon kill us was considered by trained economic geniuses as an UN-important waste product, a mere EXTERNALITY, in all infallible economic circular flow models.

    Humankind is unquestionably going extinct in the very near future, & this deadly prediction is known full well at the top of the corrupt lying political pyramid.

    There is no escape.

  • Effects of Fukushima radiation are ongoing while media omits the news

    http://www.activistpost.com/2015/07/cover-up-mainstream-reporting-on.html

    in which this video appears:

    Helen Caldicott: Fukushima’s Ongoing Impact

  • Nature works, we dont

    Environmental Sex Determination
    Go to:
    Temperature-dependent sex determination in reptiles

    While the sex of most snakes and most lizards is determined by sex chromosomes at the time of fertilization, the sex of most turtles and all species of crocodilians is determined by the environment after fertilization. In these reptiles, the temperature of the eggs during a certain period of development is the deciding factor in determining sex, and small changes in temperature can cause dramatic changes in the sex ratio (Bull 1980). Often, eggs incubated at low temperatures (22–27°C) produce one sex, whereas eggs incubated at higher temperatures (30°C and above) produce the other. There is only a small range of temperatures that permits both males and females to hatch from the same brood of eggs. Figure 17.20 shows the abrupt temperature-induced change in sex ratios for the red-eared slider turtle. If eggs are incubated below 28°C, all the turtles hatching from them will be male. Above 31°C, every egg gives rise to a female. At temperatures in between, the broods will give rise to individuals of both sexes. Variations on this theme also exist. The eggs of the snapping turtle Macroclemys, for instance, become female at either cool (22°C or lower) or hot (28°C or above) temperatures. Between these extremes, males predominate.

  • “I’m amazed at how well the birds do in the desert heat where I am currently. We are averaging 44-46 each day and the birds don’t seem to slow down at all.”

    Some like it hot:
    Mean levels of body temperatures (Tb) for all birds are (resting/active phase/high activity) 38.54 ± 0.96 (N = 203), 41.02 ± 1.29 (N = 724) and 43.85 ± 0.94°C (N = 74).

    42°C=107.6°F

    And then Omani birds are acclimated over evolutionary time (hundreds of millennia, at least) to desert heat.

  • GUYO Smith<

    " Mark Austin you show your hand and I call you."

    Huh?

  • Woodwose, how about a drawing of dancing linguistic shaman, Larry Summers, with a thought balloon out of Larry’s fat head filled with esoteric free market mumbo jumbo & the compound interest equation.

    “Mugga, mugga, mugga, you work for me.”

    You could show smirking Larry Baby shucking & jiving in front of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, while holding reams of hundred dollar bills.

    We need all the well-deserved hate & disgust we can muster in these dark times.

    To go along with the love & kisses.

  • Study: Floating Heap Of Trash Now Ocean’s Apex Predator

    SANTA BARBARA, CA—Noting that no marine species posed a threat and the total domination of its habitat, a study released Wednesday by researchers at the University of California, Santa Barbara revealed that the floating mass of trash known as the Great Pacific Garbage Patch is now the ocean’s apex predator. “We examined various aquatic food chains from top to bottom and determined that no other species comes close to challenging the garbage patch’s supremacy in the northern Pacific Ocean,” said Dr. Rebecca Corson, adding that the Texas-sized expanse of discarded plastics and chemical sludge easily displaced such large carnivores as the tiger shark and orca whale from their former place atop the marine pecking order. “The garbage patch can thrive in every ocean climate and devours whatever is in its path, whether it is plants, animals, or thousands of discarded styrofoam takeout containers.” Corson added that at the current rate of growth, the buoyant mass of marine debris would surpass humans as earth’s most dominant force by 2045

    http://goo.gl/yrnS3Y

  • We are the plague, by war disease or most horrific of all crimes, indifference,a curse on the two legged

  • Ken, friends – Love. The wheel we are all bound to is truly the only game in town. We are that Reality, that Destiny. A thousand paths of escape will all be cut off, returning us to this place we could never truly leave. Learning to accept our embededness is a crucial step towards understanding what we can and cannot do. The Universe’s Reality Principle cannot be set aside however we may wish to do so. The truth of our lives individually and collectively must be founded on acceptance of the game that reality has set us in.

    Nevertheless, within this cosmic reality there are infinite responses we can make to shape our lives together. *************************************************************//////////////////////////////////

    These cryptic utterances were typed by paw by our supercat Rumi while I was away from the keyboard. I think he is saying “Hello, I’m Rumi. Who are you? I’m an OK friendly cat are you friendly too?

    Back to the sometimes tedious process of attempting communication thru a system of shared symbols which everyone seems to understand or not in their own unique ways. Fascinating game eh? Scoring a point is called groking (thanks Mr. Heinlein).

    ALCHEMY – that’s what I have been groping towards. Given the often stubborn and resistant character of the medium we humans are given to work with (MATTER, EARTH) we needed something to soften things up, so we discovered that FIRE was just dandy for that – and we could even use it to extract METAL from some of the stuff we were walking around on.

    OK I was going to do this big (boring) number about the subtle fire of LOVE needed to soften the hard ass stuff between our ears and the pipes around our hearts – but we have animal friends problems today, and I am just going to give my blather a pass……one of our dogs sustained a deep puncture wound, and the vet traded us a tiny kitten with problems and needing eyedropper feeding in trade for her late night ministrations to Chunky (dog). Have a good one all, and don’t worry – be happy! Love.

    See Ken, that 60’s hippy in me just refused to die….

    Well, I had some time to meditate, and I found myself feeling Guy. I haven’t been able to hear him speak – but I can feel him…. He’s on a mission that he doesn’t really need to understand. But he has to do it. He is guided to do it. He is a channel for something much bigger and deeper than his surface self. I admire him. I love him. I support him in my own way. In this great drama we are all involved in, he is an important actor. There has to be a Guy McPherson. His performance, his life is an essential strand in what is unfolding on our World, in our Universe. He is injecting a naked truth into our story that must be present. The greater pattern demands his presence and his passionate activity. May all hearken to his message and be transformed by his love. Guy is not speaking from hate or anger, his message is born of his love for our world, for all of us living beings. He is speaking for the dying, murdered species who have been here for millions of years. Can there be a greater crime than extinguishing these beautiful creatures who are our ancestors and beloved companions on this evolutionary journey? How could we extinguish their lives forever without giving it a thought!! Journey on Guy, your message is having a deeper impact than any of us can now fully understand….

    NBL’ers – I have no bone to pick with any of you. You all have the same right to be here as I do. And you all play a role in our unfolding drama. This is our town meeting of sorts, a free for all discussion and venting arena for all concerned with our imminent demise. IMHO all contrary views should be freely expressed, but it’s much nicer if people avoid being really nasty to each other, as that tends to derail reasoned and compassionate sharing. That there should be conflict between the harder headed and the softer hearted seems inevitable and even sometimes productive, but recognizing that and accepting it could avoid a lot of name calling and unnecessary ill will. These divides have been with us for a long time, and will take some time to be resolved, if ever. So happy trails beach campers and visitors – the water is not too cold or rough for a good swim!

    A little ditty from TM days…..

    It’s not space, its not time
    And it can’t be sung in rhyme,
    In the earth, in the air,
    in the wind and waving sea

    It’s so subtle yet its there
    On the surface everywhere
    It’s so near, yet so far,
    beyond the thinking of the mind

    You can call it anything
    If you think it needs a name,
    Infinity unboundedness forever

    As the one becomes the many
    over the raging seas of change,
    As being moves in waves of bliss
    As being stays the same

    Sink into the silent depths
    to see and you will find
    Life in love’s infinity
    beyond all things in time

    You can call it anything
    if you think it needs a name,
    Infinity unboundedness forever

    By Rick Stanley
    (as remembered from times past)

    Curious – Love. I am thinking to transfer most of my thoughts over to Satish’s blog. Smaller audience, and it would please some hard core doomers no end to see me go. I seem to have an unconscious knack for prying under their shells and getting a rise out of them!
    The url is going kuku.com. Scroll down slightly on the home page and read my essay if you wish. Then go to the most recent posts list on the right. Et voila, le poste de mike k. A bientot mon ami….
    Oder, auf wiedersehen!

    Caroline – Good to hear from you! In a Dark Time is one of my favorites, why not run it on this lazy July weekend…….

    In a dark time, the eye begins to see,
    I meet my shadow in the deepening shade;
    I hear my echo in the echoing wood–
    A lord of nature weeping to a tree,
    I live between the heron and the wren,
    Beasts of the hill and serpents of the den.

    What’s madness but nobility of soul
    At odds with circumstance? The day’s on fire!
    I know the purity of pure despair,
    My shadow pinned against a sweating wall,
    That place among the rocks–is it a cave,
    Or winding path? The edge is what I have.

    A steady storm of correspondences!
    A night flowing with birds, a ragged moon,
    And in broad day the midnight come again!
    A man goes far to find out what he is–
    Death of the self in a long, tearless night,
    All natural shapes blazing unnatural light.

    Dark, dark my light, and darker my desire.
    My soul, like some heat-maddened summer fly,
    Keeps buzzing at the sill. Which I is I?
    A fallen man, I climb out of my fear.
    The mind enters itself, and God the mind,
    And one is One, free in the tearing wind.

    by Theodore Roethke

    Woodwose – Thanks for your comments, I really like your poetry, you, and your life. I may reconsider shifting from this blog. Maybe some of the sparks my stuff strikes have a function after all. Some dissensus is healthy for any group. Your presence here is inspiring to me, and I am sure many others.

  • Methane mitigation – We custom fit a super tanker with opening ports all along the waterline, when methane is detected hundreds of jet-skis are launched out the ports and the “troops” wearing fireproof suits, scream around firing off their bow mounted flame throwers igniting the methane as it bubbles up and before it can escape into the atmosphere. There fixed it for ya.

  • @mike k

    Salute, brother, I will talk to you in the former thread, because I don’t want to disturb that black contemplation in the newest threads anymore. I do respect that graveyard meditation, I practiced it for decades, man, I’ve seen a lot of blackness and darkness in my life and I don’t know, if I learned more in the darkness or in the light. I have a favour for blackness, I even learned to love blackness, but only blackness all the time get’s just boring. To just repeat “we are doomed, we are doomed” all the time leads to madness. The chronicle of extinction gets boring over the years, when you just add one bad news to the next and the next bad news, it dulls heart and mind and it does not make the world a better place in any way, it makes it even worse. Extinction in 15 years, ok, so I will use these 15 for some positive things, I am fed up with negativity and blackness.

  • I’ve thought for a long time that humanity would meet the ultimate ironic end by reaching total enlightenment at the exact moment of complete destruction. Although that might have just been the LSD talking. Now, the complete destruction of humanity is certain. But is the enlightenment? We shall see.

    “Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile”


  • The Price for Freedom is Death.

    Malcolm X

  • Bob S. Says:
    July 5th, 2015 at 11:09 am
    “Live Greek vote —

    Looks like NO to austerity will win!, [Plus URL]”

    It’s no on the specific EU package. Hardly at all means that austerity won’t be imposed, even more brutal than before. Anyone who is telling Greeks otherwise is a snake oil merchant.

  • I’m just so pleased with the Greek OXI vote !!!!

    I know it’s highly unlikely that the hoi polloi will ever prevail, in the long run, but it’s good to see any step in the right direction. Too bad Reagan/Thatcher (and then Merkel, GAWD!) had a 35-year head start. Or maybe the opposition just had a long hiatus……

    Here’s one of my big questions — when will Europe finally, in an unambiguous way, say Fuck You to the USA??

    Could be economic, political, military…whatever. But not, “We’re shocked and appalled at this latest violation of …..”

    I want repudiation :-))_________but yes, extinction continues.4

  • 4? Aucune idée !

  • @ Curious

    You state:

    “I am fed up with negativity and blackness……”

    And you say this on the only blog dedicated to NTE, because you can’t find another space to express yourself that’s more to your liking? No wonder you and Mike have found each other, now would you both please take your Kumbaya trolling elsewhere, and just leave us denizens to stew in the bleakness of our empirical reality.

  • Birds arriving at water with their beaks open is not a good sign. An indication of heat stress. Limits are being reached.

  • Jean Turcot & SHEP – Thank you. I fly to Alaska tomorrow where Shell oil exploration teams are busy selecting sites.

    Dr. McPherson is very important on my private contact list. When I return I will proceed with Pentagon & White House security clearance process when we find winter dates which are good for Guy to come to The Dept of Energy climate team Washington D.C.

    We are looking forward to a future personal meetings with Dr. McPherson who deserves the best information we can offer. His presentations on the pending NTE needs greater $ support. Guy has the respect Dan Utech, Presidential advisers and others here on our team.

    If Dr. McPherson approves, his presentation should be on TV before a select audience of E.P.A. members by 2016.

    Mike K. you also have a gift in your own special way. Be the voice you are even when I can’t be here to support & defend you. There are ways for some to survive the next stages of climate induced military & financial impacts before the worst levels increase.

    No doubt some of us in science departments may seem odd & quite alien but we continue our work because we do care about each of you and the quality of all life forms on Earth for as long as possible.

  • Woodwose, I like your juxtaposition of the technocratic and the shamanic… looks very cool, like a comic book (which I love).

  • Gerald Spezio — Thank you for keeping focus on the “elephant” that often gets talked around: “METHANE”.

    It was 3 years ago, shy of a month, when I discovered both McKibben’s “keep it in the ground” thesis, AND Guy’s website and lectures/writings. But it was AMEG’s singular focus on Methane that shocked me out of my “lib’ral, enviro” traditional “we’ve got time” complacency.

    And Guy then provided the punchline, as in what must come of all this, as creatures needing habitat, in “Light” of Malcolm’s graphic conclusions at AMEG.

    I sometimes see, and told him so recently, that Guy has a difficult job, for he travels the world to bring both a coherent negative picture on loss of human habitat, and a “consolation” kicker that it’s now, finally, time to be the humans we ought to have been all along. Oh, and not expect that to “fix” anything. Very Zen!

    But he really could just make his whole lecture, simply “Methane…Hi, folks, I’m Guy McPherson, methane…Methane… METHANE… METHANE!!!… FUCKING METHANE!!! Don’t you FUCKING MORONS get it??? FUCKING METHANE YOU DUMB FUCKERS!!!#@#$@..”

    Or something like it. Not really likely to get you invited to more places on more lecture dates, is it? Only as a demonstration of appropriate PROPORTIONALITY to the situation would anyone act like that, right? And we, we “civilized” folk, we don’t fly around the lecture hall hooting like a chimpanzee on acid. No, we don’t. But just maybe….

    Because when he goes on to the other mentions of those feedback loops, it is really a cast of supporting characters to that main actor, Methane. And so, in a linearly-spoken sequence of words and sentences, which he was invited to present, he must move on during the hour or so to speak of more than just methane.

    What it really is all about — the thing about it is that — all the IPCC, all the alternative energies, the marches, the conferences, the agreements, the videos, the lectures, the economic projections, etc etc — is about matters — no, our Fate — being taken out of human hands, and passed to that mass of buried/sunken methane in the Arctic and in Siberia, which, once triggered for release, becomes the driver of Earth’s climate for some millions of years. Yeah, you read that right — MILLIONS.

    All of the human pollution, or heating, of the Industrial Age simply acted as the TRIGGER to what then became inevitable. And all of our living, talking, writing, lecturing, etc. is mere tiny tiny FOOTNOTE (that will never be written) to THE TRIGGERING.

    And that’s all, she wrote.

    Thank you, Gerald, for that clear, laconic voice you bring to this. It helps me to un-fuzz my brain. (Needed for those increasingly difficult math problems below the “Submit” button.)

  • “Anybody else having an extra hard time being part of this species during this obscene “holiday”?

    On 2nd July pain suddenly emerged in my shoulder. It got worse.

    On 3rd I rang for a doctor’s appointment: none available till 6th. Went to hospital A&E, waited, got X-rayed, got assessed -no blood clots, possible nerve constriction, given prescription for painkiller and anti-inflammatory.

    Got medication and commenced. Not much relief, if any.

    On 5th a hot bath revealed rash. Went to hospital and reported rash, but didn’t stay as lot of people were waiting. Internet search suggested possible cause of pain, and I tried a number of suggestions to relieve pressure on trapped/irritated nerves.

    Pain got worse, and on a scale to 10, a 10, occasionally dropping to 8. Maybe 2 hours intermittent sleep. I imagined myself in a war zone with half my shoulder blown off.

    On 6th (Monday) got up, had a hot bath. That reduced the pain level from 10 to 9.5.

    Got to medical centre at opening time and requested immediate attention. Thankfully Dr Steve was able to see me. Discussed intense pain and rash. Had a look at rash and immediately diagnosed shingles…the pain level can be far worse than a bullet wound because the virus inhabits and moves along nerves.

    Able to type one-handed, but pretty much out of action.

    Warning to anyone who is over 60 and has had chicken pox: the virus lurks for decades and can bring an otherwise healthy human to tears in a matter of a few days.

    Thanks to modern medicine I had an injection, and have 6 kinds of medication to fight the virus and relieve pain.

    Will recover in a month or so if I’m lucky. Doctor advised ‘you will become depressed’.

  • Mark Austin, do they – like – still issue you guys one of those cool shoe phones?

  • Kevin,
    After the last cyclone to hit here,cyclone Yasi,I was stressed about the damage ,work load,etc,and had Shingles too. Painful,alright. There is a vaccine for it,but once the rash appears there is no point in taking the vaccine,as it will not prevent the development of the disease. The only treatment I received was some analgesics.

  • In the garden summer harvest, garlic planted last fall, ready for revealing the heavy lifting. The flavor and aroma is, without tasting present.

  • Ken Provost Says:
    July 5th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
    “I’m just so pleased with the Greek OXI vote !!!!

    I know it’s highly unlikely that the hoi polloi will ever prevail, in the long run, but it’s good to see any step in the right direction. Too bad Reagan/Thatcher (and then Merkel, GAWD!) had a 35-year head start. Or maybe the opposition just had a long hiatus……

    Here’s one of my big questions — when will Europe finally, in an unambiguous way, say Fuck You to the USA??

    Could be economic, political, military…whatever. But not, “We’re shocked and appalled at this latest violation of …..”

    I want repudiation :-))_________but yes, extinction continues.”

    Careful what you wish for. Odds are high that Europe will say FU to the US in the relatively near future, but in the context of the two being global competitors fighting over the planets dwindling solvent markets, resources, and investment opportunities. Yes, the prequel to WWIIII.

    Mark Austin Says:
    July 5th, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    “Dr. McPherson is very important on my private contact list. When I return I will proceed with Pentagon & White House security clearance process when we find winter dates which are good for Guy to come to The Dept of Energy climate team Washington D.C.

    We are looking forward to a future personal meetings with Dr. McPherson who deserves the best information we can offer. His presentations on the pending NTE needs greater $ support. Guy has the respect Dan Utech, Presidential advisers and others here on our team.

    If Dr. McPherson approves, his presentation should be on TV before a select audience of E.P.A. members by 2016..”

    Thanks for the Sunday humor. Right. Maybe the US government will take steeps create a global economic collapse. to do away with capitalism and indeed industrial “civilization,” the only path which has even a slight chance of avoiding near term extinction, as Guy has stated over and over again, for example here, https://guymcpherson.com/2014/05/shadows-and-lies/..
    Right, the US government will do that. LOL quadrupled. 🙂 Surely you can’t be THAT naive, are you?

  • 2015 Energy, images, NASA, Space Exploration, Spacecraft

    APNEAMAN – gosh darn never got the shoe phone but here is a really big NASA Energy secret project on my i-phone. WTF I’ll let this cat out of the bag and declare Freedom of Information Act. Might as well see what we could actually achieve with just a little more time before NTE.

    The term breakthrough propulsion refers to concepts like space drives and faster-than-light travel, the kind of breakthroughs that would make interstellar travel practical.

    warp.field_This research falls within the realm of physics instead of technology, with the distinction being that physics is about uncovering the laws of nature while technology is about applying that physics to build useful devices. Since existing technology is inadequate for traversing astronomical distances between neighboring stars (even if advanced to the limit of its underlying physics), the only way to circumvent these limits is to discover new propulsion physics. The discovery of new force-production and energy-exchange principles would lead to a whole new class of technologies. This is the motivation of breakthrough propulsion physics research.

    METHANE METHANE METHANE and I have to go fly like a stupid monkey on acid to deal with Shell Oil in Alaska tomorrow.

    CURIOUS I agree “ok, so I will use these 15 for some positive things, I am fed up with negativity and blackness”….Objectively, the desired breakthroughs might turn out to be impossible, but progress is not made by conceding defeat. Reciprocally, breakthroughs have a habit of taking pessimists by surprise, but can equally remain elusive. By proceeding in small, incremental steps that focus on the immediate questions and by emphasizing the reliability of the findings rather than their long-range implications, relevant and dependable knowledge will result. Regardless of whether the breakthroughs are found, this inquiry provides an additional perspective with which to seek answers to the lingering unknowns of our universe.
    Status of the NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) Project

    Prior to this point, the project’s leader, Marc G. Millis, continued to monitor and assess a variety of ongoing research with the assistance of an informal network of volunteers scattered across academia, industry, various NASA Centers, and other Federal labs. During that time, several publications were completed to document the progress made. When funding for active research was available, “testing hypotheses;” with experiments underway.

    Cautionary note: On a topic this visionary and whose implications are profound, there is a risk of encountering, premature conclusions in the literature, driven by overzealous enthusiasts as well as pedantic pessimists. The most productive path is to seek out and build upon publications that focus on the critical make-break issues and lingering unknowns, both from the innovators’ perspective and their skeptical challengers. Avoid works with broad-sweeping and unsubstantiated claims, either supportive or dismissive.
    Breakthrough Propulsion — Interim Report

    The term, propulsion breakthrough, refers to concepts like propellantless space drives and faster-than-light travel, the kind of breakthroughs that would make interstellar exploration practical.
    Gauging the potential benefits of undiscovered propulsion breakthroughs is challenging, but addressable. The major difficulty is that such breakthroughs are unambiguously calculated.

    So maybe I ought to move forward on helping fund some Dr. Mc Pherson presentations rather than this other potential for our species:

    A Voyager-sized spacecraft using a space drive to show that the trip time to reach our nearest neighboring star could be decreased by a factor of 6.5 just by using the leftover power of Voyager’s generators. Modifications of inertia and gravity showed that the benefits would be considerable depending on the methods and assumptions.

    MIKE K. we could have gone to the stars rather than drown in our greedy techno consumption. I hope some will know how close the human species almost got to an evolutionary leap….if only the souls were a priority above the mind.

    Deep Space Propulsion Energy: This next assessment deals with deep space travel. A space drive will be compared in terms of energy. A space drive is defined as: “an idealized form of propulsion where the fundamental properties of matter and spacetime are used to create propulsive forces anywhere in space without having to carry and expel a reaction mass.” – simply as a device that converts potential energy directly into kinetic energy.

    DANIEL – here in D.C. we have a lions den of star potential & Nano cyber horror. All the energy time and attention on destruction or one last salvation. Real science is capable of more than you might imagine…or shall we simply progress direct to a CERN blackhole accident to be sure all evidence of Earth and humans are seriously erased??? Listening to everyone as we all have some fingerprint on the comos that created us. Fingers on the Kill switch. Which way shall we go???

    Since a space drive has been defined as a device that converts potential energy into kinetic energy, the basic equation of kinetic energy is used to represent the space drive energy, where the values of vehicle mass and mission delta-v will be the same as with the rocket.
    Equation 3

  • Mark Austin, how’s your brother Steve doing? Is he still working for the government too and is he still worth $6,000,000 dollars…….man

  • I was at the 4th of July parade walking with a cool float in opposition to the nearby mega-development. Lots of dull, frowny, faces, but pockets of applause and support. People think anyone who owns land can do whatever they like: that’s the “American Way”. They don’t like the fact that their representative government installed legal mechanisms to protect the land!

    ===
    @kevin moore, I hope never to experience shingles, as I have had chicken pox. I can’t say anything to soothe the pain, I don’t think.. IF you can find some humor at the moment, you might enjoy this comic I came across:

    http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/02/boyfriend-doesnt-have-ebola-probably.html

    After my mega-operation, one of the few things I remember from the hospital is being asked for “the number”, which (as I later found out) had to be officially “witnessed” by two nurses before they could respond to my pain. I was in such pain, I couldn’t figure out what they were trying to get me to say! I had to say a number! It was so frustrating.

    I’m glad you are getting seen to and I hope you obtain relief.

  • @Mark Austin says, “we could have gone to the stars rather than drown in our greedy techno consumption. I hope some will know how close the human species almost got to an evolutionary leap….if only the souls were a priority above the mind.”

    You are insane.

    We can’t even manage to live in the environment we evolved in any longer, much less maintain ourselves on other planets.

    You and your toy-boy friends seem to be living inside a Robert Heinlein fantasy. Propulsion = a cosmic jack-off. A masturbatory fantasy for intuitively-disabled autists.

    What is ‘going to the stars” …all this space-race shit BUT “greedy techno consumption”?? It will all come to naught, of course, less than naught.. a huge, wasteful, energy-burning party consonant with the notions Paul C. has outlined.

    Even if this sort of voyage were desirable or even feasible, which it isn’t for any number of reasons a real human could come up with (Mark, you are really a poster child for the David Icke hypothesis that our society is run by lizard aliens), we can’t even get the G*D* O-rings right. We can’t build a fighter plane today that outperforms one built 40 years ago for 1/3 the (inflation-adjusted) price. And you want us to believe that TPTB actually, in the present day, think we have a future on other planets?

    God damn, I want whatever drugs they are on.


    Now, they already secretly tried to end the world once, when they pushed the atomic button not having a fucking clue whether it would destroy the entire planet or not, so I am convinced they’d have no issues doing something analogous with CERN or any number of other deeply-perverted ideas I have little doubt are being pursued.

    Your claim, though, that any of this messing-about could EVER represent a positive “leap” in “human evolution” is horrific and disturbing.

  • Lidia.

    Thanks for the humour.

    More appropriate medication is kicking in and I think the worst is over.

    Wish I could say the same for the matters we usually discuss.

  • Lidia,

    your outrage is poetically pleasing… 😉

    U mention CERN…

    I have read enough of the regular scientific justification for the Billions spent there, (and will be), however, my feeling on the matter is that the end point these Jacko’s want to arrive at is to be able to control of time field displacement.The ultimate purpose of finding a sub-atomic, sub-nuclear particle with the full mass is to find that which has no mass, thus quantifying, and manipulating these. This is because some speculate that it is the mass of matter which cannot pass light speed, and thus dislocate from the linear time-stream, but non-mass may be able to!
    The purpose of this is to be able to move forward in time to a time on this planet when it would be habitable again.
    This explains one clear but mad observation about TPTB: no inclination to shutdown IC, and an even greater inclination to go harder, not just explained by greed….but by fear perhaps.

    Just sayin…

  • I think that the better term is unnatural selection.

  • Worsening fine particulate matter pollution in Asia outweighs improvements in North America and Europe – Global exposures increasing by 2.1 percent per year

    http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2015/07/worsening-fine-particulate-matter.html

    [begins]

    (NASA) – People living in polluted areas inhale vast quantities of fine particulate matter, which is called PM2.5 because the pollution particles have diameters less than 2.5 micrometers. Such particles are so small—30 times smaller than the width of a human hair—that they can easily infiltrate human respiratory and circulatory systems, contributing to health problems like asthma, pulmonary vascular disease, and heart attacks.

    [her next newest articles are these; you can connect the dots]

    Image of the Day: River of smoke flows from Canada wildfires into Central U.S.

    Armed Forces called in as thousands flee Saskatchewan wildfires – Province-wide wildfires blanket B.C. communities in smoke

    Photo gallery: Smoke plumes from British Columbia wildfires darken skies over Vancouver and Victoria [take a look – dystopia has arrived]

    kevin moore: truly sorry to hear of your bout with shingles and, though i hate vaccines, i’ll more than likely take your advice and get this shot soon so as to avoid what you describe. Get well soon my friend.

    Mark Austin: i don’t see any way humanity, by all accounts at this point a failed biological experiment, can persist. We may be able to travel to “the stars” soon but we can’t bring our habitat with us, or, it seems, lose our propensity for fucking up everything we touch (trying to make it “mine, mine, all mine”)! See, that’s the problem – we never evolved to the next level, but instead got stuck here playing greedy games of “wealth accumulation.” Now it’s too late. i appreciate your ‘cluing us in’ to what’s going on the behind the curtain (in our “most transparent government ever”).

    The 4th was a nation-wide celebration of air pollution and noise making.
    Keep it.

  • @Daniel

    You state:

    “I am fed up with negativity and blackness……”

    And you say this on the only blog dedicated to NTE, because you can’t find another space to express yourself that’s more to your liking? No wonder you and Mike have found each other, now would you both please take your Kumbaya trolling elsewhere, and just leave us denizens to stew in the bleakness of our empirical reality.

    I dedicate that wonderful statement of Dr. Guy McPherson to You:

    Only LOVE remains.

    So, I send much Love to you 🙂 If you don’t like to Love or if you are simply not able to Love, then just do whatever your prefered solution might be. Trust in Yourself, go your very own way, just like I do. As I said, I love Blackness and Bleakness, oh yes, I really do. And I do love the Light also. Light and Darkness always go together, I am both, I am the Daylight and I am the Blackness of the Night, I got two legs, so you will never miss me. Kumbaya 😎

    http://tinyurl.com/ngs3jne

  • Mark,

    I cannot follow your “techno if only” either. Where are you going with this?
    It’s about life here on Earth as we know it which all our “technological advances” are destroying. You claim to know this too but do you… I’m trying not to be rude.

    You try to inform us – of what exactly? Not many here are in denial. We keep up with the relevant science and see the signs of a dying world all around us. It’s not rocket science, even if the birds in the desert are (still) “doing well” as Robin says.

    How do we know what “doing well” really is? All of us alive now have already adapted to a vastly diminished natural world. Some “windows” in the Universe have already shut for ever for us (6th extinction).I feel this as pain every day. I think many others here do too, they mourn and live in the moment, the way they know best, witnessing, being aware… That’s what it’s all about.

    None of us here “know” what you claim to know, you being in the “know”, so to speak (we only have your word for that): what the US government and other agencies/science/corporations” are planning for us. But we don’t have to know because we know that all is beyond repair already, was a long time ago. Are you planning to survive with the “elites”? Good luck to you. I wouldn’t want to if you paid me.

    Lidia’s outrage, summing it up with this, says it all:

    “Your claim, though, that any of this messing-about could EVER represent a positive “leap” in “human evolution” is horrific and disturbing.”

    I am disturbed too.

  • My dear departed wife could turn into a bliss ninny after two wines – her favorite was gushing over the *beautiful white lines* on the interstate.

    Whenever I encounter folks on obscure blogs gushing over perfect strangers they know nothing about — I am tearfully reminded of her innocent love of white lines and her propensity to become ill in the car shortly afterwards.

  • @Mark Austin

    I change the/my world by simply changing myself, the whole Universe is within myself, therefore I just don’t need any spacecraft to change myself, I don’t need faster-than-light-speed to visit the stars, because the sun, the moon and the stars are within myself 🙂

  • From a National news story out of Baltimore Md. ——

    **But when authorities tracked her movements using her car license plate, they found that her car had been spotted in the area.**

    he’s making a list
    and checking it twice
    gonna find out who’s naughty or nice

    he sees you when you’re sleeping
    he knows when you’re awake
    he knows if you’ve been bad or good
    so be good for goodness sake
    oh, you better watch out

  • So Two Lizards Go Into A Bar
    Hunter S. Thompson went into a bar full of lizards.

    Why Looking Makes Me See Things
    ——————————–

    Southern Ocean Carbon Cycle Rates Decline 24% In 20 Years

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2014GL062769/abstract

    Antarctic Krill Decline 80% In 40 Years

    http://weeklysciencequiz.blogspot.dk/2012/09/the-keystone-species-of-southern-ocean.html

    Ocean planktons decline 40% Since 1950

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/phytoplankton-population/

    Soil And Forest Destruction Rates Out Of Control

    http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2015/07/graph-of-day-world-arable-land-per.html

    Food Water Degradation And Loss Rates Out Of Control

    How Fast Will Collapse Be? from collapse

    Methane Rates Rise On Land And Sea

    Mass Extinction Rates Approach Runaway Speed

    Collapse Data Cheat Sheet from collapse

    My Desire For Hallucinations Out Of Control

  • The latest post includes a presentation and two interviews. Catch all the action here.

  • Church of Doom Hymn

    We don’t have to know

    ‘cause we’re all

    Going to go

    Any time now

    So get with the show

    Before it’s too late

    To know all

    You don’t need

    To know

    You don’t want

    To be late

    For our final date

    With Mr. Checkmate

    But just remember

    It wasn’t me

    It was Adam & Eve

    And that damned tree

    Now there’s nowhere

    To flee and

    Nothing to be

    In the land

    Of the free

    Oh my, oh me

    Poor me, poor me…

    (Dedicated to all who are Curious to know more….
    The author submits this for approval by the Cardinals of the
    Holy Inquisition.)

    EMERGENCY BULLETIN – A large asteroid is going to hit Earth in two hours! All citizens should go to the basement of the nearest building. Go to the Northeast corner, and bend over, put your head between your legs – AND KISS YOUR MF’IN ASS GOODBYE!

  • Linda thanks for flipping the meat robot kill switch that was most excellent, superb, first class, outstanding, grand, comment ! What a day in the most wonderful place in a universe, Love to all and all for Love

  • It will be interesting to see how Mark handles the loving attentions of the self-designated death squads, and their make-believe extinction switch. My advice is to love “em to death – that way they might avoid the big roaster below – if they can only die laughing….. (Sorry I stepped over the unwelcome mat – guess I misread it.)

  • Her name is Lidia not Linda. Don’t make her mad – this chick can be Trouble!

  • sorry Lidia, but I get rattled easy, won’t happen again, but keep it up. The trouble bubble like the methane bubble are the future, Peace, Thx

  • Lidia Says:
    July 5th, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    @Mark Austin says, “we could have gone to the stars rather than drown in our greedy techno consumption. I hope some will know how close the human species almost got to an evolutionary leap …. if only the souls were a priority above the mind.”

    You are insane.

    We can’t even manage to live in the environment we evolved in any longer, much less maintain ourselves on other planets.

    You and your toy-boy friends seem to be living inside a Robert Heinlein fantasy. Propulsion = a cosmic jack-off. A masturbatory fantasy for intuitively-disabled autists.
    ============================================
    Unnatural Selection
    ———————-
    Jack Off and Jill Off
    went up the hill;

    Each had a dollar
    and a quarter.

    Jill Off came back
    with two and a half.

    Do you think they
    went up for water?
    ———————-
    Mark Austin is correct within a narrow context and a short number of lines of text.

  • @mike k

    Hey thanks a lot for William Wordsworth, I love it! Triton and his conch shell horn reminds me of the Tritone, Diabolus in Musica (augmented fourth/flattened fifth), THE devillish intervall that is the flesh and bones of the Blues, the once socalled “Devil’s Music” (Gypsy Music also was once called “Devil’s Music” because of it’s extensive use of the Tritone and it’s often hellish pace), muhahaha 😎

    http://www.howtomusic.info/music-theory/tritone-diabolus-in-musica-2/

    And, yes, I was born in Germany and I live in a small city in the middle of nowhere.

    Love.

    @WoodWose

    Thanks a lot for your Shaman Visions, great and special contribution!

  • Thanks for a good laugh Jean T. I love Johnny Depp in that Pirates flic – he’s my kind of hero-anti-hero! Pretty crazy but with a good heart in there – somewhere.

  • P.S.:

    The God that the clergy names “Devil” is actually Pan, the pagan God of Music and Wine:

    http://www.tokenrock.com/explain-pan-105.html

  • “I was at the 4th of July parade walking with a cool float in opposition to the nearby mega-development. Lots of dull, frowny, faces, but pockets of applause and support. People think anyone who owns land can do whatever they like: that’s the “American Way”. They don’t like the fact that their representative government installed legal mechanisms to protect the land!”

    Thanks, Lidia. That was very brave. That “American Way” belief is so hateful and violent that it takes balls to confront it. (Assuming that one knows how hateful and violent it is. :-))

  • @babajingo

    I’d rather hold hands with someone and walk into the fire together than be trying to push each other out of the way to escape it.

    You’re a real winner, yeah, walking into the Fire and becoming One with the Fire.

    http://tinyurl.com/pucgpz3

  • Dredd, ha ha! That’s a hilarious poem, thanks.

    Seriously, all this rocket/skyscraper stuff is sooooo phallic.

    Admit it, guys!

    IIRC, in “Sexual Personae”, Camille Paglia wrote with disdain something to the effect that if women ran the world we’d still be living in mud huts, and all I could think at the time was, “and what would be wrong with that, exactly?”.

  • milendia – Love. Ouch.

  • Love. Curious. Fire – giver of Life and Death. Use it carefully. The healing fire of Love is best. Use it liberally. It blesses giver and reciever and entire Cosmos. It is the Sacred Gift that redeems everything, everything, everything……..

  • Not only does Love remain, it has always been and will never cease to be. To connect with it and channel it is to be in the flow of our eternal blessedness. Francis said, “Lord make me a channel of your Love.’” I often join him in that heartfelt intention. Aikido means attuning with the fundamental Love Energy Flow of the Cosmos. All it’s movements are smooth and gentle gestures of Love. To make all the world best friends is it’s goal. Like the Quakers – the Religious Society of Friends. Do everything with Love and enjoy Enlightenment. The answer to Einstein’s question whether the Universe is friendly is an overwhelming YES – it’s very nature is SAT_CHIT_ANANDA Being-Consciousness-Love. Live that truth and be transformed into what you really are…..

  • And btw those who do not harmonize their lives and actions with love are those whose every action and thought is contributing to the destruction of our world. Those who scoff at the essential value of real love in solving our problems are producers and maintainers of those problems. Those full of hubris have little use for real love, they are too busy exercising their selfishness, and their greed and violence towards all those they are robbing and killing. If anyone cannot understand what I am saying in it’s basic truth and simplicity, then they should take a look at themselves and what values they hold. Get it? I’m tired of mincing words with those who cannot hear or understand the simple truth.

  • Peace, love, butterflies and unicorns my true brother. Your words of love are like rivers of light through my dark soul.

    But I must reveal to you an unseen truth. Folks aren’t scoffing at love – they’re scoffing at you ’cause you’re full of shit.

    Live long and prosper. triple secret love my brother.

  • @mike k

    And btw those who do not harmonize their lives and actions with love are those whose every action and thought is contributing to the destruction of our world.

    They are just suffering, brother. They are cut off from their real potential, cut off from freedom, cut off from real knowledge, cut off from joy. Hatred is just suffering, hatred is pain for the one who hates, therefore I got mercy on those. The price for hatred is always pain, not joy.

    Comments of hatred can never hurt me, it’s just words after all. Whatever I read has to pass the Fire that’s burning inside of me. Whenever I read a hate comment, I just realize the suffering of the commentator, a free person who feels joy and cares for himself and others does not write hate comments, only those who are cut off from their real inner potential, only those who feel pain within their very own heart write hate comments, it is just a cry of pain, a cry for Love, a cry for Deliverance, because hatred is pain. Hatred is mostly painful Self-hatred projected on others. Maybe those guys had a hard childhood, cruel parents who could not give Love, who knows.

    Therefore let’s always have mercy on those who are burning in the Hell-Fire of hatred, may they overcome that burning pain, may they taste true freedom and joy.


  • Curious, babajingo – Your words of harmony and mutual care and support ring true. What would one realistically expect of those gathered on a remote beach, who had each come in their own way to understand a dark truth? Exactly what we are finding on this blog. We are an uncontrolled experiment in progress…. If someone was to write a story with our situation as basic premise, these characters that speak their lines from day to day would surely show up. It’s like one of those TV dramas where a heterogeneous group are thrown together to meet a dire situation.

    All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, including the stages of grief outlined by Kubler Ross – denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and grief. Paul Chefurka adds a sixth stage on his excellent blog. We have on our beach of doom folks transiting or stuck in all these stages and other stages hard to discern. In this as in all things forgiveness is the key that resolves anger towards them or lack of compassion.

    “Forgiveness is the answer to the child’s dream of a miracle by which what is broken is made whole again, what is soiled is again made clean. The dream explains why we need to be forgiven, and why we must forgive. In the presence of God, nothing stands between Him and us – we are forgiven. But we cannot feel His presence if anything is allowed to stand between ourselves and others..”
    Dag Hammarskjöld, in his journal, 1956

    In spite of the distaste of some here for the religion of Christianity, truth is found in many places:

    1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
    2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.
    3 The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
    4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
    5 A fool despiseth his father’s instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.
    6 In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.
    7 The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.
    8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
    9 The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the Lord: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.
    10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
    11 Hell and destruction are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?
    12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.
    13 A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.
    14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.
    15 All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.
    16 Better is little with the fear of the Lord than great treasure and trouble therewith.
    17 Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
    18 A wrathful man stirreth up strife: but he that is slow to anger appeaseth strife.
    19 The way of the slothful man is as an hedge of thorns: but the way of the righteous is made plain.
    20 A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish man despiseth his mother.
    21 Folly is joy to him that is destitute of wisdom: but a man of understanding walketh uprightly.
    22 Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are established.
    23 A man hath joy by the answer of his mouth: and a word spoken in due season, how good is it!
    24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.
    25 The Lord will destroy the house of the proud: but he will establish the border of the widow.
    26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
    27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.
    28 The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
    29 The Lord is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.

    30 The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report maketh the bones fat.
    31 The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.
    32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.
    33 The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility. KJV

    A bit verbose but so be it. The old timers ran into these communication/stage of consciousness problems back on their stretch of Mediteranean beach long ago….

  • @mike k

    Yeah, the whole world, the whole Universe is like an open book for those who are willing to read. Truth does not hide from man, but man does hide from truth 🙂

    http://tinyurl.com/qyz5p7f

  • It’s not what you don’t know that kills you,
    it’s what you know for sure that ain’t true.
    – Mark Twain

  • Curious – Love. Some thoughts from Sri Aurobindo:

    “To find the Divine is indeed the first reason for seeking the spiritual Truth and the spiritual life; it is the one thing indispensable and all the rest is nothing without it. The Divine once found, to manifest Him, — that is, first of all to transform one’s own limited consciousness into the Divine Consciousness, to live in the infinite Peace, Light, Love, Strength, Bliss, to become that in one’s essential nature and, as a consequence, to be its vessel, channel, instrument in one’s active nature. To bring into activity the principle of oneness on the material plane or to work for humanity is a mental mistranslation of the Truth — these things cannot be the first true object of spiritual seeking. We must find the Self, the Divine, then only can we know what is the work the Self or Divine demands from us. Until then our life and action can only be a help or means towards finding the Divine and it ought not to have any other purpose.

    As we grow in the inner consciousness, or as the spiritual truth of the Divine grows in us, our life and action must indeed more and more flow from that, be one with that. But to decide beforehand by our limited mental conceptions what they must be is to hamper the growth of the spiritual Truth within. As that grows we shall feel the Divine Light and Truth, the Divine Power and Force, the Divine Purity and Peace working within us, dealing with our actions as well as our consciousness, making use of them to reshape us into the Divine Image, removing the dross, substituting the pure gold of the Spirit. Only when the Divine Presence is there in us always and the consciousness transformed, can we have the right to say that we are ready to manifest the Divine on the material plane.

    To hold up a mental ideal or principle and impose that on the inner working brings the danger of limiting ourselves to a mental realization or of impeding or even falsifying by a halfway formation the true growth into the full communion with the Divine and the free and intimate outflowing of His will in our life. This is a mistake of orientation to which the mind of today is especially prone. It is far better to approach the Divine for the Peace or Light or Bliss that the realization of Him gives than to bring in these minor things which can divert us from the one thing needful. The divinization of the material life also as well as the inner life is part of what we see as the Divine Plan, but it can only be fulfilled by an outflowing of the inner realization, something that grows from within outwards, not by working out a mental principle.”

  • Jean Turcot – Love. Good one! Nice to see you stand up to the bullies who try to dictate who can share on these pages. Some folks just don’t trust freedom unless they can micromanage it. Nobody ever told these dictators to go away. Why? Because we free spirits believe in freedom for everybody.

  • “An Age of Decadence inevitably follows. Frivolity, aestheticism, hedonism, cynicism, pessimism, narcissism, consumerism, materialism, nihilism, fatalism, fanaticism, and other negative attributes, attitudes, and behaviors suffuse the population. Politics is increasingly corrupt, life increasingly unjust. A cabal of insiders accrues wealth and power at the expense of the citizenry, fostering a fatal opposition of interests between haves and have-nots. Mental and physical illness proliferates. The majority lives for bread and circuses; worships celebrities instead of divinities; takes its bearings from below rather than above; throws off social and moral restraints, especially on sexuality; shirks duties but insists on entitlements; and so forth. The society’s original vigor, virtue, and morale have been entirely effaced. Rotten to the core, the society awaits collapse, with only the date remaining to be determined.

    With its ways of thinking and acting set in concrete, increasingly blind to reality and to alternative possibilities, an ossified civilization descends into a terminal stagnation that prepares its demise….The civilization’s elites may understand that the system is dysfunctional, but fundamental reform would require major sacrifice on their part, so they fight to preserve their privilege and power….Bluntly put, human societies are addicted to their ruling ideas and their received way of life, and they are fanatical in their defense. Hence they are extraordinarily reluctant to reform. “To admit error and cut losses,” said [Barbara] Tuchman, “is rare among individuals, unknown among states.” Instead of changing their minds, leaders redouble their efforts to do what no longer works, wooden-headedly persisting in error until the bitter end.

    They resort to stupidity–doing what has never worked in the past, what cannot succeed in the present, and what will destroy the future both morally and practically. First, by engaging in unnecessary wars or imperial ventures that drain the civilization of blood and treasure. Second, by buying off the populace with bread, circuses, and entitlements, thereby promising more than can be delivered in the long term.”

    Morris Berman

  • @mike k

    Thanks a lot for Aurobindo!

    To hold up a mental ideal or principle and impose that on the inner working brings the danger of limiting ourselves to a mental realization or of impeding or even falsifying by a halfway formation the true growth into the full communion with the Divine and the free and intimate outflowing of His will in our life. This is a mistake of orientation to which the mind of today is especially prone.

    Yes, so true. This is why I avoided to join any religious or political group, this is why I did not become a Christian or Buddhist or Muslim or whatever. This is why I said that we have to realize it everywhere in everyday Life. The experience I told you some weeks ago had no sender written on it, so I concluded that nobody owns it, it is there for everyone, within everyone, I am totally shure about that. This universal power, this universal Love is sleeping even within the opressors, within those who rape and exploit Mother Earth, I am shure. Those guys are just still sleeping, they just don’t really know what they are doing, there are like children playing with real hot Fire. They will wake up for shure when it gets real hot.

    I do often wish that I could tell them what I have seen, but I now that they will just laugh at me, they will never take any looser, any lone Wolf like me seriously, they will never listen to us, brother, we are just shouters in the desert, we have no wordly power, no money, we are no corporations, no bankers, no politicians, no leaders, so all we can do is just wait until things happen. Let’s trust in the Divine and pray for those who are still sleeping, may be the Divine Mercy on them. Sometimes I feel like a little child, no power, helpless, clueless to share what I’ve seen. We’ll have to leave that task to the Divine Power I guess.

    Love, Brother.

    P.S.:

    Nobody ever told these dictators to go away. Why? Because we free spirits believe in freedom for everybody.

    Hahahaha, so true, Brother!

  • @mike k

    That Divine Power is real slowly on action, real patient, real mercyful like a loving parent, like a good, wise Father or Mother- but, uuhm, when it stands up for Action… duck!, let’s better run for cover!, muhahaha 😎

  • Watch out for Paul Beckwith, he is one of my true Heros, the man is running faster and faster to keep up with all the Bad News:

    http://twitter.com/PaulHBeckwith

  • Curious – Love. You must realize that like you I have never belonged to anything organized. First and last freedom. I have taken part in a lot of things, but I never join formally. Steppenwolf am I, like Hesse, like so many who left the herd to roam alone. Those are my brothers and sisters in aloneness, like you. I have a wife, but we both agreed to be free, never bound. We stay together because we love each other, not from any legal ties. I could never submit to such an arrangement. We signed the marriage papers because of financial matters. Prior to that we lived together for years freely – and we are still the same – freely staying together by choice, not by decree.

    Ultimate truth is only seen in a state beyond all conditioning. One must go naked to encounter That Reality. Whatever beliefs cling to you will make you unable to experience That Reality beyond all words and ideas. So one must be a leaver. Not this, not that, neti, neti -leave all behind and go naked to That One. Your necessary offering is your humility, your awareness that you know nothing before the Supreme Being of the Cosmoses. All knowledge, all pride is nothing before That. Prostrate your self and surrender to That Love, That Wisdom….

  • Love. I love lizards. I am a spirit lizard in my heart. If I come back to this world I will be an ancient lizard sitting deep in the forest on a lichen covered boulder. Look for me there, and meditate with me and I will open the door to your eternal place in the nature of things….

  • @mike k

    You must realize that like you I have never belonged to anything organized. First and last freedom. I have taken part in a lot of things, but I never join formally. Steppenwolf am I, like Hesse, like so many who left the herd to roam alone. Those are my brothers and sisters in aloneness, like you.

    Yes, I can scent that from Wolf to Wolf, whoooouuuu 😎 I even left my family like McPherson and so many others did, because most of my family is still sleeping and quite ignorant when it comes to climate change, social injustice and so on. They will wake up soon I’m shure. The weather gets real weird here in Germany, many temperature records have been broken again this year, this summer it goes on. We have bad drought all over and the weather is really strange I swear, I can smell the danger just like an animal, it goes right into my flesh and bones. The last two winters in a row have been totally cancelled, just gone, I have never seen that before. But what really frightens me even more is that most insects just vanished over the last years and so many, many birds did, this is totally strange, really scary 😎

    I’m glad that you are not totally alone out there in the woods, you have a wife, a woman, woman-power beside you. Most evil doers, most dictators in the world are men, isn’t it so?Love between a man and a woman is some of the most beautiful things I have ever experienced, it is a miracle. I am alone for now, no woman, but maybe one day I will meet a Lady again, who knows. I never shared an appartement with a woman, I did always keep my own hut, so I got kind of wild, as I said, my heels are mounted upfront, always ready to run, dunno if any woman could cope with that 🙂

    Whatever beliefs cling to you will make you unable to experience That Reality beyond all words and ideas. So one must be a leaver. Not this, not that, neti, neti -leave all behind and go naked to That One.

    Yes, man, and then, when it got you, then you are some kinda a stranger to the world, you lose the ability to talk about it in an appropiate way, the more it gets me, the more all words are slipping away, all knowledge is just a whispering in the Wind, a reflection in the Air, letters written on the Water, away, gone, gone and you shout and you sing, but hardly anyone hears you and so you become a leaver, I will become silently, tenderly silent after all, I love to leave all the Time, I love Goodbyes… maybe the trees are screaming all day, all night, maybe the rain is telling secrets, maybe even the gras is whispering about what’s to come, but who really listens, who really cares?

    Man, lizards must be meditating all the time, they rarely move, they never talk 😎 You know what, brother? I think that animals do see Eternity all the time. When I was about 5 or six years old I sometimes got up earlier than all the other family members and just sat there in the living room, quietly, I loved to just sit there alone, I loved beeing alone even when I was a little child. One morning, when I sat there, suddenly a Wolf appeared right in front of me, looking at me with his Wolf-Eyes, not like an enemy, more like an elder Brother. I never forgot that, this Wolf is my Totem-Animal I’m shure.

  • Robin – I don’t think the dung beetles appreciate your politeness to them. I talked to one and she said, “We don’t give a shit what he does, as long as he leaves us the shit alone. Who does this shit think he is? (Sorry for all the shit Robin, but every other word in Dungbeetlese is shit!)

  • Robin – Love.

  • @Martin

    Man thanks a lot for Tom Waits, this guy is more than raw, pure streetfeeling, pure Blues, aaaah, I can never get enough of him. And thanks for the wise and funny Don Quixote quote, the dialogs are so strange and funny, says it all, harr harr!

  • Curious – Love. You have to sit quietly with a lizard for a long time for them to open up to you and establish a telepathic link together with you. I think your experience with the wolf was a gift from Spirit. It has deeply affected you in a good way. Contact with spirit animals is always important. When some of us were preparing to do a peyote ceremony on Maui, the artist lady who was to be the Earth Mother was told that she should bring a dead owl to the next meeting for a ceremony called the Resurrection of the Owl. She said she had never seen an owl on Maui and didn’t think she could find one. The Road Man Bill Grey Eagle (one empowered to start a new peyote meeting) assured her she would find one. When we met the next week, sure enough she brought a dead Owl! She explained that she was driving along and saw something out of the corner of her eye, stopped the car – and there was a dead owl by the side of the road.

    In the ceremony, the different types of feathers were praised and explained as to their special virtues and functions. Then a few feathers were distributed to each of us to bind to our staffs, which were already adorned with various brightly colored yarns and items relevant to our specific roles in the coming peyote meeting. I was designated as a smoke man. My role was to have sweet grass and other things to blow smoke on participants who became ill or disturbed, as part of the means for cooling them out so they could return within the lodge and continue their part in the meeting. As you may know peyote cactus buttons are very bitter, and initially can make one nauseous. If you let the peyote (which is considered a spirit plant with a soul and certain powers) work in you for 15 minutes or so then the nausea passes. After one has been to several meetings, they usually lose the nausea reaction altogether or learn to handle it.

    Do you know the word entheogen? Houston Smith and some other scientists are trying to get these precious mushrooms and other natural gifts of Nature reinstated as valid means to seek God, or for healing those with mental or emotional problems. So, an entheogen helps us find God or Spirit in whatever form it manifests for us. Due to Huston’s and other prominent people’s efforts the Native American Church is legally empowered to use peyote in their meetings, which they hold once a week as an all night ceremony – much as Christians go to church every Sunday. The Indians who attend this church are among the most outstanding citizens in every way in their communities, and are highly respected in their tribes.

    Wolves are beautiful creatures. You have chosen your totem well – or should I say you were chosen by the Wolve’s Tribal Spirit to be one of them….

  • Mike K,

    “Your awareness that you know nothing before the Supreme Being of the Cosmoses.”

    Amen to that! Every time I hear the words “I know”, I cringe, and sometimes just smile. Time has a way of kicking all ‘knowledge’ around a little.

    Curious,

    Yes… Tom Waits …. The guy knows how to sing some blues.. Never read Don Quixote, but stories about Castaneda’ Don Juan Matus or Dumas’ ‘Count of Monte Cristo’ will give you something to think about regarding human nature…

  • “Yes, man, and then, when it got you, then you are some kinda a stranger to the world, you lose the ability to talk about it in an appropriate way, the more it gets me, the more all words are slipping away, all knowledge is just a whispering in the Wind, a reflection in the Air, letters written on the Water, away, gone, gone and you shout and you sing, but hardly anyone hears you and so you become a leaver, I will become silently, tenderly silent after all, I love to leave all the Time, I love Goodbyes… maybe the trees are screaming all day, all night, maybe the rain is telling secrets, maybe even the grass is whispering about what’s to come, but who really listens, who really cares?” -Curious

    Beautiful! All you have to do is versify that paragraph, and voila! You have a beautiful poem. All the poetry and music and pain and love you have experienced have worked within you to produce a POET. All you have lived Curious has made you a unique and special Wolf, like Hesse and Rilke and Lao Tse and so many other Steppenwolves. You were drawn to them, and they to you because you are deeply together as brothers and sisters in the Spirit. Sing on lonely Wolves of the Heart! I have not heard your music yet, but I hear it in your words, and it is beautiful.

    Years ago our Spiritual Growth Network invited a lady to teach us about the Amerindian way of celebrating Spirit. She created a medicine circle with special stones and other Spirit things, and we lay on our backs with our eyes closed as she led us on a journey deep into the world within ourselves….. After a long time there we found ourselves in a sacred place and were told we might ask for a message to guide our lives. I was told, “Sing your song.” This was profoundly meaningful for me, and has changed my life. Until then I would not share with anyone what was within me. That ceremony made all the difference…..

    You know that land where lemon orchards bloom,
    Its golden oranges aglow in gloom,
    That land of soft wind blowing from blue sky,
    Where myrtle hushes and the laurel’s high?
    You know that land?
    That way! That way
    I’d go with you, my love, and go today.

    You know that house, its roof on colonnades,
    The halls agleam, the rooms of gems and jades?
    The marble statues eying all I do:
    “Oh wretched child, what have they done to you?”
    You know that house?
    That way! That way
    I’d go with you, my guardian, today.

    You know that mountain and its clouded peak?
    The path through mist that hooves of donkeys seek?
    In caves the ancient dragon-spawn now rove.
    The rocks loom high, and rivers burst above.
    You know that place?
    That way! That way,
    O Father, lies our path! Let’s go today!

    The Original:

    Mignons Sehnsucht

    Kennst du das Land, wo die Zitronen blühn,
    Im dunkeln Laub die Gold-Orangen glühn,
    Ein sanfter Wind vom blauen Himmel weht,
    Die Myrte still und hoch der Lorbeer steht?
    Kennst du es wohl?
    Dahin! dahin
    Möcht ich mit dir, o mein Geliebter, ziehn.

    Kennst du das Haus? Auf Säulen ruht sein Dach.
    Es glänzt der Saal, es schimmert das Gemach,
    Und Marmorbilder stehn und sehn mich an:
    Was hat man dir, du armes Kind, getan?
    Kennst du es wohl?
    Dahin! dahin
    Möcht ich mit dir, o mein Beschützer, ziehn.

    Kennst du den Berg und seinen Wolkensteg?
    Das Maultier sucht im Nebel seinen Weg;
    In Höhlen wohnt der Drachen alte Brut;
    Es stürzt der Fels und über ihn die Flut!
    Kennst du ihn wohl?
    Dahin! dahin
    Geht unser Weg! O Vater, laß uns ziehn!

    Goethe