Edge of Extinction: Habitat Gone for Humans

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  • Fellow doomed bilateral coelomates, I’ve been busy with a YouTube project for the past few months that I want to share with you at the risk of being thought a spammer (which is about as far from what I am as may be imagined). My way of pursuing a life of excellence – to the extent that I may be said to pursue one at all – involves sharing beautiful discoveries with others who might also be moved by them and take consolation in them. For me, that’s the music of the great symphonic tradition, beginning with Josef Haydn.

    A couple of days ago I posted a video covering one of the greatest symphonic nature paintings of all time, Jean Sibelius’s “Tapiola.” I specifically had in mind those people who share the awful knowledge that poisons the well of my joy, and with whom I grieve for a planet that has been thoughtlessly destroyed. If you watch this, I think you’ll understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6gbTTlfRag

    Guy, I hope it’s all right for me to post this here. If you’d rather I not do it, please let me know and I’ll refrain from doing so in future.

  • The interviewer sounds like the rabbit wizard (the friend of Gandalf who had a sled pulled by rabbits, not huskies) in the Hobbit series.

    Anyway, he is one of my favorite Wizards !

    Guy must be Gandalf ?

    The Hansen paper is now out (A Paper From Hansen et al. Is Now Open For Discussion).

  • Conservation biologists cannot alter rates of global warming, but their research can help us predict how the resulting climate change will affect organisms. Thanks for all the updates of current climate events and what we are currently undergoing with rapid climate change, it’s getting quite abrupt! We adapt so slowly, just wish we could fly away like birds, but I guess they will have a problem finding an appropriate area to land. In 1998 after the last El-Nino, unusually high sea temperatures caused massive bleaching and death of coral reefs, this time it’s our turn. If Earth’s surface warms to 4C as predicted, entirely new climates will develop, our existing climate will disappear. Adaptation to new climates may prove difficult, the overexploitation will just continue, as the temps. rapidly climb, we could not shift so we will be reduced then removed. Gotta Love It,It’s all that remains.

  • Great comment I heard yesterday,

    “You laugh at me because I am different; I laugh at you because you are all the same.”

  • Interested in hearing what’s going on re the vegan community idea. Where is this being discussed?

  • This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper.

    TS Elliot

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    rice paddies are responsible for as much as 17 percent of the methane, or CH4, in the Earth’s atmosphere. And cultivation is growing to meet the increase in the world’s human population.

    The methane is a natural byproduct of the decomposition of organic matter in the rice paddies. Because paddies are flooded, the report said, their “warm, waterlogged soil and exuded nutrients from rice roots provide ideal conditions for methanogenesis in paddies.” As a result, the world’s rice paddies emit between 25 million and 100 million metric tons of methane every year.
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    The children suffer.
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    Looking forward to war, famine, and pestilence.
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    Just sitting on this runaway train, staring out the window, with a cat on my lap.
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    Sadly, this is what we’ve come to:
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    The Voluntary Extinction Movement says:
    “…thou shalt not procreate.”

    The Church of Euthanasia says:
    “Save the planet, kill yourself.”
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    Live simply, kill nothing. Eat only that which falls from the trees, sleep on the ground, drink from the river.
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    PLANT NO CROPS, BUILD NO CITIES.
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  • thanks codger…I was more in the mood for Debussy…but I needed a reminder.

  • alice, this is the dept of death, destruction and mayhem…vegan community is 2 doors down.

  • Seems folks were not long ago discussing 2c as the point where things get real — now we’re talking about 4c is just around the corner – YIKES!!

    But we’ll be OK – a carbon tax can rescue us from the abyss.

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    Warning From Scientists — Halt Fossil Fuel Burning Fast or Age of Superstorms, 3-20 Foot Sea Level Rise is Coming Soon

    The way out? Reduce global carbon emissions by 6% each year and manage the biosphere such that it draws carbon down to 350 ppm levels or below through the early 22nd Century. To Hansen and colleagues this involves a scaling carbon fee and dividend or a similarly ramping carbon tax to rapidly dis-incentivize carbon use on a global scale. Do that and we might be relatively safe.

    https://robertscribbler.com/2015/07/24/warning-from-scientists-halt-fossil-fuel-burning-fast-or-age-of-superstorms-3-20-feet-of-sea-level-rise-is-coming-soon/

  • On August 14, 2014, TEPCO updated radioactive releases from
    Fukushima. Tritium had jumped from 1 billion bq/day to 150 billion bq/day.

    Four months earlier, science editor Youchi Shimatsu published a report saying tritium was one of the more likelier causes of the rapid breakdown of the Greenland Ice Sheet, especially given its freeze/melt of -252 C.

    Did Mr. Shimatsu made a very prescient call, or not?

    http://www.rense.com/general96/arctic.html

  • erri Alice Says:
    July 24th, 2015 at 10:31 am
    Interested in hearing what’s going on re the vegan community idea. Where is this being discussed?

    Maybe try http://www.cowspiracy.com/

  • Just heard an oldie but goodie a la Sarah Palin:

    “The Polar Bear is not endangered. It’s just unlucky.”

  • was at the zoo park today, sad to see all the young kids, moms and such, oblivious, totally oblivious.

  • Bob S. – Hurray the party continues! It’s so simple, just keep doing what we are doing, but throw in some renewables and tweak some lifestyle changes.

    You have to laugh at how naive this guy is “manage the biosphere such that it draws carbon down to 350 ppm levels”. REALLY? HOW?

  • Re: James Hansen, do you suppose he honestly believes that it’s still possible to salvage a planet hospitable to human, and other complex life forms? If Hansen was administered a truth serum, would he still be holding out hope, however desperate? Or has he now crossed over into denial, as a defensive psychological reaction to our predicament?

    I’ve always liked the guy and considered him a straight shooter. I’ve also long advocates for a tax on CO2 emitting fuels. However, we should have started moving away from fossil fuels (and gotten serious about (i)humanely(/i) stabilizing population) in the late 70’s/early 80’s. It’s far too late now. Complex life forms will not be around for much longer. Whether it’s another 18 months or 15 years. The jig’s up, and we’ve no right to feel sorry for ourselves.

  • Turns out “dirt” is not antithetical to human health (people):

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201507/your-brain-and-health-in-nature-rewilding-is-good-us

    Even urban street trees make a difference.

  • Hansen & Scribbler boggle my brain.

    Such pie-in-the-sky salvation borders on genuine madness.

    James Hansen & Guy McPherson are both good scientists talking about the same planet & the same evidence.

    The comparative method with full vengeance.

    If Hansen had written that Jesus had spoken to him, I wouldn’t have been more shocked.

    And I thought that Gavin Schmidt was a political crackpot.

    Drawing down carbon with angels?

  • I just re-read the Hansen Paper.

    There is absolutely no mention of a possible heat accelerating Arctic methane release.

    Neither Semiletov nor Shakhova are anywhere in the bibliography.

    http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/15/20059/2015/acpd-15-20059-2015.pdf

  • Cuntagious

    Hansen has to answer to his family. What can he say to his wife, children and grand children? Tough shit?

    I am old, 72, and just want to see the assholes in a panic. I hate to miss the greatest show ever.

  • Dept of Energy Washington D.C. – I just returned from 2 weeks in North West Alaska Chukchi Sea. During our Arctic oil drilling site safety inspections for the Obama approved Royal Dutch Shell 400 & 500 ft rigs I saw the pockets of methane bubbles. “Been going on for years. You get used to it, just like seeing bubbling vents in Yellowstone. It’s natural.” My team including Gerrard from the I.E.A. & Canada’s top geologist Stephan Lorrain were assured the methane was normal as we dined on imported Chilean Sea Bass. 7 aircraft & 30 vessels itching to drill baby drill. Enough ice to damage the hull of 1 Shell ship that had to return to Portland Oregon.

    Callaway Nuclear plant, Fulton MO leak to keep off the public radar. Maybe we can give it a Fukishima “daisy” spin by Monday if the problem does not get contained.

    Tomorrow I will look into KOSHLAND science center as a place for Dr. Mc Pherson to do his presentation here in D.C. this fall while parties remain interested in what should be the most important topic in any world capitol besides launching a limited nuclear war on schedule.

  • I often send Scribbler’s postings to friends. Today i looked at the one Bob S posted above, just a casual look,, something about it told me “don’t bother even reading.” Glad i listened to my intuition, would have ruined my day had i read it, would have ruined my reputation had i sent it on without reading.

  • Jeff S, if sharing one blog post from Robertscribbler is all it would take to ruin your reputation then it is already on shaky grounds. Or maybe you just need different friends.

  • The Great Plains’ invisible water crisis

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article28505764.html

    … irrigation soon could end on Peterson’s southwest Kansas farm. The wells under his land in Stanton County are fast running dry as farmers and ranchers across the Great Plains pump the Ogallala faster than it can be replenished naturally.

    90% of all water used in Kansas is pumped from underground.

  • Found an interesting site to share and get peoples views on, a brief excert from this:

    “The near-term extinction people are raising an alarm. It is important to notice the grave danger that we are in. Your effort is needed. Beware though of the toxicity of hopelessness; it can poison the conventional wisdom as surely as toxic chemicals poison physical life. What is needed is a radical approach to stabilizing humanity’s impacts on the planet. Life is powerful and humans are an extraordinary species. It is possible for us to thrive into the long-term future. Some might say that radicals are not realists. They want to change the system, rather than go down telling us how bad it is.”

    An excert from :

    http://www.sustainwellbeing.net/NTE.html

  • **What is needed is a radical approach to stabilizing humanity’s impacts on the planet.**

    Just another California dreamer who knows what **humanity* needs.

    Wait — don’t we have an app for that?

  • Humans are not extraordinary. Broken down, the word means “more plain”. We were clever enough to make it to the top of the food chain; only to become worse than locusts.

    And Mama Cass didn’t choke to death on a sandwich. Like all of us, gluttony caught up to her.

  • Most of the deniers pick and choose scientific reports to suit their fancy.

    That is because of a lack of ability to do scientific analysis.

    Which necessitates using opinion in place of scientific data.

    Don’t be like that.

    Be scientific.

    Read, comprehend, match, offset, and point out strengths and weaknesses in the variety of scientific papers.

    Mental laziness engendering a lack of analysis capability got us to where we are (The Pillars of Knowledge: Faith and Trust?).

  • Gerald: yeah, me too. You dare not expose Scribbler to opinions of doom or you risk being censored for a week or two like I was recently.
    He’s not ready to throw in the towel and needs crutches like solar tech or Tesla batteries to support him. I don’t blame him, it’s a bit disconcerting how willfully ignorant people can be when it comes to enlightenment – the tearing down of all illusion to view the truth as it is.

    Saturday, July 25, 2015
    Arctic Ocean Temperatures Keep Rising

    https://arctic-news.blogspot.ca/2015/07/arctic-ocean-temperatures-keep-rising.html

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    In many ways, the situation now already looks worse than it was in the Eemian. “The warm Atlantic surface current was weaker in the high latitude during the Eemian than today”, says Henning Bauch. Furthermore, as illustrated by above image, contained in ocean temperature data from 1880 for the Northern Hemisphere is a polynomial trendline that points at a rise of almost 2°C by 2030. This indicates that temperatures across the Arctic Ocean could soon be even higher than the peak temperature was back in the Eemian Period. Indeed, the Arctic Ocean temperature is rising at a terrifying pace, the more so given that there seems to be no end in sight soon for this rise.

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    Even worse, a polynomial trend for the Arctic shows temperature anomalies of over 4°C by 2020, 6°C by 2030 and 15°C by 2050, threatening to cause major feedbacks to kick in, including albedo changes and methane releases that will trigger runaway global warming that looks set to eventually catch up with accelerated warming in the Arctic and result in global temperature anomalies of 16°C by 2052.

  • PBS Airdate: April 18, 2006

    NARRATOR: He warned us, more than 25 years ago, that human activity was changing the Earth’sclimate. Since then, the world has gotten hotter, and NASA scientist James Hansen’s warning has been echoed by the vast majority of climate scientists everywhere.

    JAMES HANSEN (NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies): Global warming in the past century is about eight-tenths of a degree Celsius, with most of it occurring in the last 30 years.

    NARRATOR: And now the warnings have become more urgent.

    JAMES HANSEN: I don’t agree that we’ve passed the point where there’s no hope, but, but, on the other hand, we’re darned close.

    NARRATOR: Close, because scientists have uncovered a new factor that may be masking the full impact of global warming. Called global dimming, it’s powerful enough to alter temperatures in a matter of days. It may have contributed to the world’s deadliest drought, and it could mean that the Earth’s climate is about to start heating up as fast as the most dire predictions.

    JAMES HANSEN: I think we have less than a decade to avoid passing what I call “point of no return.”

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3310_sun.html

  • Bob S

    “Wait – don’t we have an app for that?”

    Your cutting through the BS humour has a healing effect on me, in the same way as mint oil does when I have a stuffy head.

    It clears things up.

  • Jeff S. Says:
    July 24th, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    I often send Scribbler’s postings to friends. Today i looked at the one Bob S posted above, just a casual look,, something about it told me “don’t bother even reading.” Glad i listened to my intuition, would have ruined my day had i read it, would have ruined my reputation had i sent it on without reading.
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    Tom Says:
    July 25th, 2015 at 4:42 am

    Gerald: yeah, me too. You dare not expose Scribbler to opinions of doom or you risk being censored for a week or two like I was recently.
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    This is what I mean in my comment above about being opinionated ad nauseum rather that being scientific, which requires improving reading comprehension.

    That is, reading the scientific papers so the content is known.

    Scribblers piece, which I read, does not characterize the paper correctly.

    For example, the Hansen et al. paper says:

    ” … 2°C global warming is highly dangerous

    We suggest that this viewpoint [“2°C is ok”] fails to appreciate the nature of the threat posed by ice sheet instability and sea level rise. If the ocean continues to accumulate heat and increase melting of marine-terminating ice shelves of Antarctica and Greenland, a point will be reached at which it is impossible to avoid large scale ice sheet disintegration with sea level rise of at least several meters. The economic and social cost of losing functionality of all coastal cities is practically incalculable. We suggest that a strategic approach relying on adaptation to such consequences is unacceptable to most of humanity, so it is important to understand this threat as soon as possible.”

    (A Paper From Hansen et al. Is Now Open For Discussion).

    Some may not realize what Hansen et al. are saying that sea ports built decades ago at sea level will be below seal level.

    An ignorance of the dynamics of public works as well as the scope of the volume of trade in those sea ports is causing the “ho hum.”

    The catastrophe it presents is “practically incalculable” and the ho hum is “highly dangerous.”

    I mean, that paper is not like an episode of Sesame Street.

  • @Curtis A. Heretic Hansen has to answer to his family. What can he say to his wife, children and grand children? Tough shit?

    I suspect you’re right. Hansen even titled one of his books Storms of My Grandchildren. Although not My Grandchildren Are the Last Generation. He’s got a genetic/emotional a stake in the future.

    I don’t have children and don’t plan to. Humans exiting the scene doesn’t bother me in the least. Although, the process of going extinction — the attendant suffering that will ensue — does. I also feel terrible for all the other lifeforms we’re taking out in the process. That’s the real tragedy.

  • temps recorded inside the arctic circle @98.78 F july 2nd!

  • Speaking with my daughter last night she said,”Dad, please do not tell me anymore. (i.e., I agree with u) I want to just live my life as it is and not try to worry. (paraphrase)”

    This is one of many forms of “Only Love Remains”.

  • just the facts mam’…nobody knows when. life is very sticky.

  • may we all just fall asleep one night…

  • The Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben said in an interview that “thought is the courage of hopelessness” ─ an insight that is especially pertinent for our historical moment, when even the most pessimistic diagnosis as a rule finishes with an uplifting hint at some version of the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel. The true courage is not to imagine an alternative, but to accept the consequences of the fact that there is no clearly discernible alternative: the dream of an alternative is a sign of theoretical cowardice; it functions as a fetish that prevents us thinking through to the end the deadlock of our predicament. In short, the true courage is to admit that the light at the end of the tunnel is most likely the headlights of another train approaching us from the opposite direction.

  • You should know, that new technology is breaking through known physics to produce technology that (in my opinion) may not reverse the end but perhaps could extend the end through breaking free of the fossil fuels required for everyday living. Proof of concept has been accomplished and a desk top working prototype is near completion for a piston driven engine that uses ambient temperatures on our planets surface to drive the engine with NO outside fuel source required. It is an amazing process and was first proven using an old tractor which ran with no fuel at more than 1000 RPM discovered by a young inventor. Instructions for how it is made is included at the website http://www.aesopinstitute.org but there is a warning about safety regarding the early proof of concept design. The third generation of the technology is currently being completed and is safer. Read about this technology breakthrough.

  • “Worrying is like a rocking chair; it gives you something to do but doesn’t get you anywhere.” (Erma Bombeck et al)

    Like Shep, with his daughter, I recently had conversations with my grown children and their spouses. We shared a lot of info, watched a lot of presentations and interviews. They handled it extremely well and we ended up laughing about something that happened when the girls were quite young and shortly after their mom and I had separated.

    We were flying to visit my brother’s family. The baggage compartment caught fire, we made an emergency landing (on the ground in seconds), switched planes and 14 hours later arrived at our destination.

    I had the following phone exchange:

    Me, calm: “Hi, just called to say we’re here and everything’s fine.”
    Her, agitated: “What if you had crashed!?!?!?!!!!
    Me: “Well, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.”

    So, like the flight attendant instructed us, “Just tuck your shoes under your arm and jump.”

  • Most of our high-intensity agricultural areas are on low-lying river deltas. Sea level rise will flood our main food sources. All the arable land on earth is about twice the size of India, If someone invented or discovered a free endless supply of energy, it would only hasten our ecological collapse. Success is how we got here.
    http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2014/08/19/341573332/lessons-from-the-last-time-civilization-collapsed

    Economic collapse can happen anytime within the next year. Before ecological collapse runs its course, civilizational collapse will run its own course. Before civilizational collapse, economic collapse will run its course. Before the water, food and refugee wars start, there will years of economic deprivation in wealthy countries as the hungry hordes fight tooth and nail to here.

    China’s largest city has 40 million people, bigger than the populations of Canada, Australia and Argentina. Canada is my home. It is the luckiest country in the world. It is also home to the greediest, stupidest most racist bunch of retards in human history.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-mega-city-has-more-people-than-canada-argentina-or-australia-2015-7

    Scribbler is an egomaniacal jerk off not worth pissing on. I don’t remember a single comment of mine being allowed on his precious book promotion website.

    Doom For Dummies
    The earth has lost 70% of its sea bird populations in the last 40 years. We can’t even stop ourselves from killing bees and Monarch butterflies. People don’t react to subtleties, they need a good kick in the ass, or a sucker punch to the face.

    Thermodynamics of Forest Driven Bio-diversity from collapse

    I have been a tireless Hansen carbon dividend promoter since day 1. It’s thankless work inviting endless sarcasm, ridicule and ignorance. It’s a good thing I thrive on it. Everyone loves Hansen until he says “nuclear power”, then they say he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. As if survival options were items on a restaurant menu you get to pick and choose from. We are literally too stupid to live.

    How To Stop The PermaBuzz from Permaculture

  • I keep hearing about the “point of no return” in 5, 10, 20 years, or even by the year 2100. Hindsight tells me the point of no return began when the age of coal/oil got into full swing. The yeast (humans)in the vat (earth) will consume all of the sugar (coal/oil) until it no longer can. Lets be as good as we can to each other, and die trying.

  • How To Die Trying

    Weaponized Sonar – blowing out fish and whale eardrums for fun and profit.

  • “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it.

    Karl Marx

    I’m 54 now, I knew we were on this path thirty years ago, I am a coward as i lack the courage of my convictions. That will be my eternal regret.

  • Scribbler’s dismissive words about S & S speaks volumes.

    Scribbler’s mis-spelling of Semiletov’s name is more than a petty nit.

    The “adversarial masquerade” is an integral part of extortionist lawyering, NOT science.

    Genuine adversarial conflict in science is ultimately settled by experimental facts, as in Feynman’s philosophy of science.

    See Max Planck’s desperate use of Boltzmann’s hypothesized concept of quantization of energy 25 years earlier than Planck’s use of it.

    Planck completely distrusted Boltzmann’s hypothesis, but was forced to use it at least temporarily.

    Planck was forced to use Boltzmann’s quantization hypothesis in order “to fit the theory to the experimental facts.”

    Ditto for Einstein’s simple paper predicting the quantization of energy & the photoelectric effect – & the simple experiment proving it.

    S. & S’s observational & empirical work is in the same scientific class as the development of quantum theory from Boltzmann in 1877 & forward.

    Dramatic planetary climate change is unquestionably empirical.

    Anthropogenic causation is a major part of the causal theory.

    robertscribbler / July 24, 2015

    “The IPCC guys have gotten defensive. They’re in the middle and they take hits from all sides. I try to give them slack unless they get too obnoxious — as they did with Shakhova and Simeletov (note pretty much all science on the issue of methane has now been silenced by the adversarial nature of the mainstream science, a sad outcome for another risk related issue).”

    If S & S are predicting correctly & all the empirical data is strongly verifying, there will be a “sad outcome” indeed.

    And it could be very soon, as in McPherson above.

    “Risk related” & then some.

    Abrupt Arctic methane release would escalate Hansen’s very acceptable modeled SLR “scenarios” off the charts.

    Gavin Schmidt openly denigrated S & S’s empirical work, & made a fool of himself.

    Now, Hansen dismisses S & S’s empirical facts entirely in a “definitive” predictive paper based on modeling, as in Schmidt.

    Hansen & Schmidt are acting like lawyerfish playing yuppie “courtroom.”

    Lots of speculative talk about drawing down CO2 in the atmosphere w/o mentioning methane is blind & deadly ethical negligence.

    See Shakhova’s response to the Royal Society’s NON-invitation.

  • SHAKHOVA’S FAILED PLEA TO HER “SCIENTIFIC” COLLEAGUES

    October 4th, 2014
    By mail and email

    Dear Sir Paul Nurse,

    We are pleased that the Royal Society recognizes the value of Arctic science and hosted an important scientific meeting last week, organised by Dr D. Feltham, Dr S. Bacon, Dr M. Brandon, and Professor Emeritus J. Hunt (http://royalsociety.org/events/2014/arctic-sea-ice/).

    Our colleagues and we have been studying the East Siberian Arctic Shelf (ESAS) for more than 20 years and have detailed observational knowledge of changes occurring in this region, as documented by publications in leading journals such as Science, Nature, and Nature Geosciences. During these years, we performed more than 20 all-seasonal expeditions that allowed us to accumulate a large and comprehensive data set consisting of hydrological, biogeochemical, and geophysical data and providing a quality of coverage that is hard to achieve, even in more accessible areas of the World Ocean.

    To date, we are the only scientists to have long-term observational data on methane in the ESAS. Despite peculiarities in regulation that limit access of foreign scientists to the Russian Exclusive Economic Zone, where the ESAS is located, over the years we have welcomed scientists from Sweden, the USA, The Netherlands, the UK, and other countries to work alongside us. A large international expedition performed in 2008 (ISSS-2008) was recognized as the best biogeochemical study of the IPY (2007-2008). The knowledge and experience we accumulated throughout these years of work laid the basis for an extensive Russian-Swedish expedition onboard I/B ODEN (SWERUS-3) that allowed more than 80 scientists from all over the world to collect more data from this unique area. The expedition was successfully concluded just a few days ago.

    To our dismay, we were not invited to present our data at the Royal Society meeting. Furthermore, this week we discovered, via a twitter Storify summary (circulated by Dr. Brandon), that Dr. G. Schmidt was instead invited to discuss the methane issue and explicitly attacked our work using the model of another scholar, whose modelling effort is based on theoretical, untested assumptions having nothing to do with observations in the ESAS. While Dr. Schmidt has expertise in climate modelling, he is an expert neither on methane, nor on this region of the Arctic. Both scientists therefore have no observational knowledge on methane and associated processes in this area. Let us recall that your motto “Nullus in verba” was chosen by the founders of the Royal Society to express their resistance to the domination of authority; the principle so expressed requires all claims to be supported by facts that have been established by experiment. In our opinion, not only the words but also the actions of the organizers deliberately betrayed the principles of the Royal Society as expressed by the words “Nullus in verba.”

    In addition, we would like to highlight the Anglo-American bias in the speaker list. It is worrisome that Russian scientific knowledge was missing, and therefore marginalized, despite a long history of outstanding Russian contributions to Arctic science. Being Russian scientists, we believe that prejudice against Russian science is currently growing due to political disagreements with the actions of the Russian government. This restricts our access to international scientific journals, which have become exceptionally demanding when it comes to publication of our work compared to the work of others on similar topics. We realize that the results of our work may interfere with the crucial interests of some powerful agencies and institutions; however, we believe that it was not the intent of the Royal Society to allow political considerations to override scientific integrity.

    We understand that there can be scientific debate on this crucial topic as it relates to climate. However, it is biased to present only one side of the debate, the side based on theoretical assumptions and modelling. In our opinion, it was unfair to prevent us from presenting our more-than-decadal data, given that more than 200 scientists were invited to participate in debates. Furthermore, we are concerned that the Royal Society proceedings from this scientific meeting will be unbalanced to an unacceptable degree (which is what has happened on social media).

    Consequently, we formally request the equal opportunity to present our data before you and other participants of this Royal Society meeting on the Arctic and that you as organizers refrain from producing any official proceedings before we are allowed to speak.

    Sincerely,
    On behalf of more than 30 scientists,
    Natalia Shakhova and Igor Semiletov

  • Australian right-to-die doctor will gas audiences on television show to model ‘peaceful and reliable means of death’

    http://www.sott.net/article/299410-Australian-right-to-die-doctor-will-gas-audiences-on-television-show-to-model-peaceful-and-reliable-means-of-death

    or maybe you’d prefer death by roller coaster, which is linked to there.

  • @ J C Dolph: great choice of words, here’s some music to go with them

    Van Halen – Jump

  • Mongolia: 80 percent of crops dead (Friday, July 24th)

    Approximately 80 percent of Mongolia’s crops have died this summer due to extreme drought across the country, according to board member of the Mongolian Plantation Union B.Erdenebat.

    Though the situation has reached a critical level, the Ministry of Industry and Agriculture has yet to take action, let alone announce to the public what is happening. […]

    According to B.Erdenebat, crop farmers and provinces have been urging the ministry to prepare for cloud seeding to force rain, without much success, since winter. […]

    “Mongolia should at least have a year’s worth of reserve since it can’t manage four to five years like bigger countries. But the ministry(of agriculture) didn’t listen. The people will feel what it’s like to live in a country with no reserve this fall,” he said.

    It is astounding how little attention is being given to the agricultural industry issue when it is in such a dire state. The domestic production of Mongolia’s most basic food commodity of flour and grain has just been cut. […]

    http://ubpost.mongolnews.mn/?p=15463

  • In America, if you’re not stupid, you’re an extremist. Just using your brain at all, even in many academic settings, makes you an outsider.

    I’m posting this canned interview by a couple of shills, just to remind us of how special Guy and NBL are and how lucky we are to be here, sharing this experience in a relatively conscious way.

    Listen for awhile, and skim through. You’ll feel like you’re being poisoned. But if you can stand it, this is a prime example of the tactics and underlying motivations, easily spotted by open minded people, that have always degraded mankind, misled us, and brought us to destruction.

    Barf bags, ready!

  • ITS ALL SHIT

  • cannot be said clearer

  • More Canadian zigzagging, in my posts geography and also in the content.

    The Globe and Mails article (search Arctic research expedition put on hold ) was just as long as but shed no light on how Harper and his ilk benefit with land grab and science muzzling.

    However via a news source out of Iqaluit,

    http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/65674ice_federal_mission_hamper_arctic_science_and_sealift_this_year/

    [quote]
    The UNCLOS mission intends to claim seabed rights for Canada in the High Arctic, near the North Pole. The mission involves mapping Canada’s continental shelf which lies under ice at the top of the world to claim for Canada the North Pole and also potential oil and gas reserves there.
    [/quote]

    The Amundsen is a much smaller vessel and usually dedicated to science and exploration.

    It is callous to all cancer survivors and all victims friends to have the Terry Fox turn tail and limp back to Newfoundland, to safeguard Harper and his ilk’s arctic wet (oil) dreams. The Terry Fox has been the workhorse of the Canadian North for supplying remote places and rescuing people from the perilous sea. Amundsen was an explorer and a scientist. Terry Fox ran and ran until he could not step another step.

    I really thought I would never despise another politician more than GWBII. I stand corrected, I can.

  • Kirk Hamilton said “In America, if you’re not stupid, you’re an extremist. Just using your brain at all, even in many academic settings, makes you an outsider.”

    Well stated. This might explain, in part, why Hansen is deluding himself. He’s simply not prepared to be labeled a kook, or leader of a death cult. He wants to maintain his stately status as a ‘respectable’ expert on climate science.

    “I’m posting this … to remind us of how special Guy and NBL are and how lucky we are to be here, sharing this experience in a relatively conscious way.”

    The Giorgio Agamben quote Etyerepetyere posted nails it: “The true courage is not to imagine an alternative, but to accept the consequences of the fact that there is no clearly discernible alternative: the dream of an alternative is a sign of theoretical cowardice.”

  • The acidic rain from these hot fires is destroying the plant growth all over the world. They are burning at a temperature that maximize nitrogen oxides and soon will be the dominant acid in the destruction of plant life. Mans fossil fuel fires are a big factor in the destruction. We just burn gas and coal like a fire that includes the acidic oxides of sulfur. Humanity should have seen impending crisis in the slow rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide and the deterioration of forests and jungles. There are also a number of mildly acidic gases released from burning of wood. But the acidic gases from volcanism are nature’s way of doing us in. Seems now the increases are so great that it is pointless to extend the curves any farther. One hundred and fifty years ago a virgin soil may have had 25 tons per acre of organisms; today’s soil generally have less than 5 tons per acre. The importance of the soil microorganisms is that their protoplasm compounds are the source of the cell protoplasm of every other living thing on Earth. 50 years ago we should have done some remineralization of the Earth. Malnutrition results from depletion of minerals deposited by the last glacial period. Now it’s burning, Love

  • Apneaman Says:
    July 25th, 2015 at 12:31 am
    “Jeff S, if sharing one blog post from Robertscribbler is all it would take to ruin your reputation then it is already on shaky grounds. Or maybe you just need different friends.”

    I thought about adding a smiley to the end of that, then decided the humor was obvious. Guess not.:-)

  • Have three climate change scientists been ASSASSINATED? The astonishing claim made by a Cambridge professor

    Professor Peter Wadhams insists three scientists may have been murdered
    Seymour Laxon died after a fall while Tim Boyd was struck by lightning
    Katharine Giles was crushed to death by a truck while cycling in London
    Prof Wadhams believes they were killed by oil lobby workers

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3174599/Have-three-climate-change-scientists-ASSASSINATED-astonishing-claim-Cambridge-professor.html#ixzz3gwsOzQxU
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  • Jeff S, maybe it was obvious to others not impaired by their third consecutive night of insomnia :O

  • Thanks @Tom. Great insight; funny it’s the only song that went #1 for them.

    I was just thinking about joining an anarchist movement, but decided against it. Too many rules.

  • @ jay

    Prof. Wadhams wasn’t the first to say these scientists had been assassinated.

    http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue344.htm

    Laxon research found arctic sea ice loss was 50% higher than expected. These confidential findings somehow made it into the MSM. The rest is history.

  • What killed off the woolly mammoth? Climate change

    But some of them were probably a delicious dinner to some of our ancestors. Too bad they didn’t save some for us.

  • Phil Morrison Says:
    July 25th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
    “Weather Modification

    HAARP Update

    URL ”

    The basic meme regarding HAARP is that by shooting pulses of energy into the ionosphere, not only can weather be modified, but effects can be created with high predictability. And that’s BULLSHIT on many levels. To begin with, the ionosphere is not involved in weather at all, except for radiation passing both inward (from the sun towards the surface) and outward. And the effects of these energy movements are *indirect in the extreme.* And anyone who thinks such precision can be achieved with weather modification doesn’t know what the fuck they are talking about, and tends to think that the weather system is like a machine with knobs, levers and buttons which can be made to perform like a machine if only they could get their hands on the controls. And that’s totally NOT the case. The weather system is like a living organism, with many parts, with immense amount of feedback, with many variables which we are not even aware of, with many others which cannot be measured with any reliable accuracy, e.g. ocean temps cannot be measured at every single square foot of surface, let alone below the surface. And there is a high degree of unpredictability.

    No apologies for the strong language, it pisses me off when i see people trying to pass forth this HAARP bullshit as if it has some scientific validity. I’ve even seen contentions that by shooting nervy from HAARP devices, one can distort the ionosphere and then when it bounces back, this causes an earthquake on the other side, as if the planet and the several layers of atmosphere form a rigid body. CRAP of the worst sort.

  • Jeff, definitely do NOT send the HAARP story to your friends;)

  • @ Jeff S.

    Air Force Paper: “Weather as a Force Multiplier:
    Owning the Weather in 2025”

    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

  • The Oceans are Coming?  BFD.  I got other Worries.

    New SURVEY included!

    RE

  • RE Says:
    July 26th, 2015 at 2:27 am

    The Oceans are Coming? BFD. I got other Worries.
    ========================
    That is what way too many politicians say.

    It is not about you.

    The oceans are already here.

  • When Elizabeth Kolbert wrote her 6th mass extinction book, one of the highlights of her story was the utter and total disbelief a ecology professor had when his students reported back to him that they could find no frogs anywhere. He was the “intellectual” who refused to believe in the field evidence. This is how S&S are treated now. Does this matter? No, not really, but it still rankles deep. Myopic data dependency can actually blind you to reality, so can obsession, prejudice and bias, which Spezio speaks to and of. Rotsafun.

    What amazes me about this site, is the laser focus people have on what they think the underlying cause of our doom will be. This became very evident when I watched “Doomsday Preppers”. Every prepper had three faults in common, they were over-obsessed with food, shelter and the cause of our doom.

    Another pet peeve of mine, and believe me when I say I have many, are climate-optimists who “think” green energy, anti-austerity and carbon socialism will “save” us. I just finished reading Pepe Escobar’s piece about the new Silk Road initiative. A multi=billion dollar network of roads, rail, pipelines, cables designed to unite Eurasia. The real key to this project are the pipelines. All this talk of a green China is bullshit. China just wants to breathe again. Air is no respecter of wealth. It doesn’t matter what Beijing says, all politics is local and all local politics is corrupt.

  • When religion ruled the world, heretics were tortured and dispatched to heaven.

    When science ruled the world, heretics were ostracised and dispatched to oblivion.

    Earth 2.0 has been discovered, we’re now told there may be billions of them. The nearest one is only a thousand light-years away. Space-X tickets will be available online soon. You see? The whole doom meme has saturated the media. The media are the 3 blind men feeling up an elephant, no one is telling you about the whole elephant, only the bits and pieces of the elephant in the room.

  • Callaghan; you make a very concise & “true” statement; “Myopic data dependency can actually blind you to reality, so can obsession, prejudice and bias…”

    Hansen’s lengthy discussion of predictive Eemian models w/o confronting empirically evidenced abrupt methane release is farcical “academic” micro-analysis.

    The paper’s openly stated “hopism” is truly obscene.

    It is circuitous digression & blatant distortion of the evidenced science on its face.

    True madness from an otherwise great scientist, who has done his best.

    Yes, I call it madness.

    I can only imagine what empirical scientific grunts, Semiletov & Shakhova, must be “feeling/thinking.”

    Reading & re-reading their poignant letter to the Royal Society is a lesson that the human experiment was not entirely in vain.

    S & S did their best too – only objective reality will tell the end of the tale.

    Hansen’s paper is a fatal blow for me, but I dare not psychologize about why he did it.

    Feynman’s wise admonition applies; “Be careful not to fool yourself because you are the easiest person to fool.”

    Moreover, I always respected the aphorism; “In order to be dis-illusioned, we must first be illusioned.”

    Just for some natural humor as we go under, I would admonish Hansen; “Say it ain’t so, Jim.”

    I don’t have any hope for species survival or personal salvation, but I did expect that some good people would tell the simple truth as we die from our own self-centered human frailty, compound interest, & plenty of plain lying & deceit.

    It is all some of us have left.

    It’s all that I have left.

  • Were all worried about what happens when the shit hits thee fan, this short clip demonstrates a like scenario quite accurateley.

  • The latest essay in this space was penned by Alton C. Thompson. You can read it here.

  • Religions and science have always ruled the world.

  • Phil Morrison Says:
    July 26th, 2015 at 12:52 am
    “@ Jeff S.

    Air Force Paper: “Weather as a Force Multiplier:
    Owning the Weather in 2025″

    URL ”

    Yeah, let’s take the Ari Force’s fantasy and mechanistic materialist notion of “weather system as a machine” for reality, why don’t we? 🙂 You obviously don’t get the pony, the weather system is NOT a goddam machine, ir is an organism, it isn’t subject to such fine controls, all military fantasies to the contrary. You share these fantasies because you share the same basic lack of understanding, the same pseudo-science perspective of mechanistic materialism. See Thomas Lewis Brace for Impact, introduction
    http://www.braceforimpact.thomasalewis.com/Intro.html

  • And further more (since this is no longer the headline post, no limits): When i challenge the likes of Phil Morrison to explain how shooting energy into the ionosphere can change weather, which does not involve the ionosphere except in a very long range, very indirect and totally unpredictable manner, all they ever do is provide the same links, like the Air Force document ,which asserts desire rather than science or repeat the same meme without providing a shred of proof or a shred of actual understanding of atmospheric science. I get this from someone who sends me email messages, be it HAARP or car engines which run on water.

  • The mission of DARPA/TTO is to provide or prevent strategic and tactical surprise with very high-payoff, high-risk development and demonstration of revolutionary new platforms in Ground Systems, Maritime (Surface and Undersea) Systems, Air Systems, and Space Systems.

    Yes – the HAARP G. array in Alaska is re-activated. I just returned from a site inspection. A month ago I gave pre-trip details here on NBL. Punching holes in the I-sph to induce ultra cold air vortex at arctic sea level. Dept of Energy & Obama approved tests as a precaution to Royal Dutch Shell drilling operations emergency.

    I agree that everything on Earth and above is alive. Very complex. But so are the top secret DARPA sciences connected to CERN contracts which are altering the very fabric of nature. Dr. Steven Benner at Applied Molecular Evolution has created the first entirely non biologic synesthetic life form.

    In a race against extinction we are in quantum rush to push evolution. Deep drilling the melting arctic ice and playing god with M3-fire…scarecrow.

    Correct my ESPN mistake in comments. Typing too fast with an eye on a sports game. My 1997 Environmental Review series was on PBS, Discovery, TLC & C-span. All my best as we enter the 2020 “Extinction Preview”

  • Hi Mark – I watched some of the Environmental Review series – quite a star studded lineup.

    I also liked your Travel Channel episodes of The Spas of Europe, Great Hotels, 10 best Greek Islands, Escape to Croatia, Discover Denmark, Palaces of Russia, Cycling & Chateaus, 10 best French Bistros, underground Rome, Paris & London, too.

    How about an excerpt from your new novel CODES OF REVELATION, sounds interesting.

  • Mark Austin Says:
    July 26th, 2015 at 4:45 pm
    “The mission of DARPA/TTO is to provide or prevent strategic and tactical surprise with very high-payoff, high-risk development and demonstration of revolutionary new platforms in Ground Systems, Maritime (Surface and Undersea) Systems, Air Systems, and Space Systems.

    Yes – the HAARP G. array in Alaska is re-activated. I just returned from a site inspection. A month ago I gave pre-trip details here on NBL. Punching holes in the I-sph to induce ultra cold air vortex at arctic sea level. Dept of Energy & Obama approved tests as a precaution to Royal Dutch Shell drilling operations emergency.

    I agree that everything on Earth and above is alive. Very complex. But so are the top secret DARPA sciences connected to CERN contracts which are altering the very fabric of nature. Dr. Steven Benner at Applied Molecular Evolution has created the first entirely non biologic synesthetic life form.

    In a race against extinction we are in quantum rush to push evolution. Deep drilling the melting arctic ice and playing god with M3-fire…scarecrow.

    Correct my ESPN mistake in comments. Typing too fast with an eye on a sports game. My 1997 Environmental Review series was on PBS, Discovery, TLC & C-span. All my best as we enter the 2020 “Extinction Preview””

    As usual from you, drivel. To put it nicely, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Punching holes in the ionosphere to induce cold air vortex? GARBAGE, as if any air above the ionosphere would flow down like a straight line. Sounds like you’re used to talking to meth burnouts. 200 years ago you would have been a snake oil merchant on the US “frontier.”

  • @guyo, thanks for bringing up the soil microbe issue. I think that —along with the ozone effects on plants which Gail Z. witnesses— this is a major coffin nail, and I don’t know who might be looking into it.

    While I’m not sure about “mineralization” (Dr. Elaine Ingham claims that all soils contain adequate amounts of mineral compounds, and that the limiting factor is microbial activity sufficient to convey these compounds to plant roots and, to a lesser extent, leaves), I’ve suspected for a while that changes in atmospheric composition and environmental pH have had a grievous impact not only on the macro biological entities we see, like trees themselves, but also on these essentially invisible populations of critters.

  • Jeff S. – Now it’s just political spin for the oil snakes. Fun end time job with lot’s of travel when I quit caring about the future radioactive side effects for Earth after people.

    Yes the vortex plan is madness. Much less for Royal Dutch Shell. But we will pretend it works to sound safe & sure on several Energy web sites.

    Bob S. – You can also see I haven’t touched my F-book page resume since 2012 elections. Too deep shit into this D.C. “communications” job. LOL. All those credits back in the 1980’s include Spielberg & James Cameron. Now that a Titanic amount of ice is melting for real we all go down together. Come join the dance down in steerage.

  • Mark A. – I was referring to your Linkedin profile – you were an actor on General Hospital from 1980-86, OMG.

    And, to be honest, going from an actor and film producer to Epimedix, Inc. to work on a U.S. Government contract for bio-hazard analysis and intellegance (sic) security. WASHINGTON D.C. is a little *spooky*.

    And being *too deep shit into this D.C. “communications” job* to update your resume – how did you find time to write a novel?

    Perhaps it’s your superior time management skills that allows you to go against the flow in DC, namedropping the heavy hitters of Empire while inviting *angry* posters to join you in DC to stir the proverbial pot.

    Did you ever write for The Twilight Zone? ‘Cause when I read your posts, it seems I may be traveling through another dimension.

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mark-j-austin/25/a39/69

  • The sea is a human habitat in the sense of a source of food.

    Which brings up Peak Sea Level

    The up slope is connected to the down slope my chillin …” – The Gawd of Oil

  • I didn’t say the vortex idea was “madness,” it’s GARBAGE, the kind of stuff you tell meth bun outs, only they would believe it.

  • Hi Mark,

    I’ve been working on some ideas on kuku…if you can spare time to look there. 🙂