What I Live for

I posted the essay below, verbatim, on 7 August 2008. I’m using the same title for today’s essay, and adding a brief introduction and an embedded song. Also, I’ve linked to a new essay for Shift at the bottom of the page.

Consistent with my perspective from August 2008, I still live to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. I still pursue opportunities to provide service to humans and other organisms. I still muddle along, seeking meaning in an uncaring, purposeless universe. And compared to August 2008, there are many additional people I’ve offended.

The challenge of social criticism is to point out the absurdity of contemporary society in a manner that elicits change from the masses. Such change generally cannot occur when the person receiving the message is offended. Thus, the messenger must target the masses while making the typical listener believe the message is intended for everybody else. But not him or her. The desired change need not be reflected in behavior, and seldom is. Rather, change begins with absorption of the message and subsequent thought. At this point, individual behavioral changes are likely to be ineffective or worse with respect to improving the outcome for humans or other organisms.

With essentially no chance to change events at the level of society, the job of the social critic is unnecessary. It’s equivalent to holding the position of a teacher while being unable to impact the lives of students (i.e., the typical professor in today’s version of higher hire education).

As a consequence, the question arises: Why criticize society? Why continue to bang one’s head against the proverbial wall, to no apparently positive end? Why holler at the deaf and wildly wave one’s arms at the blind?

After dedicating much thought and action to these questions, I’ve come up with the only answer that makes sense to me. I welcome your thoughts, however, wishing I’m incorrect in concluding that I’m doing what I’m doing out of sheer ego.

After all, if my actions impact nobody beyond myself, what’s the point? Why bother? Apparently I’m merely keeping myself distracted from staring into the existential abyss. Thus, I’m acting like those I criticize, glued to my own version of gladiators on television. All my sentiments about pursuing and promoting evidence mean nothing if the light of evidence cannot overcome the darkness of willful ignorance.

And apparently that’s where I am, along with a few of you. I’m merely distracting myself from the long littleness of life. Seeking consolation within an inconsolable state. Pursuing and perhaps even achieving — albeit temporarily — happiness. And doing so in the usual manner: distraction.

British poet Frances Cornford said it best:
“A young Apollo, golden-haired,
Stands dreaming on the verge of strife,
Magnificently unprepared
For the long littleness of life.”

On the topic of distraction, I don’t think of myself as an adrenaline junkie. But I love downhill skiing, fighting fires, lighting fires, sex, skydiving, and sleeping. These activities have in common complete distraction from other activities. All except sleeping require exceptional focus, which negates attention on other activities. Sleeping thus resembles meditation, or vice versa.

Apparently I really love distracting myself from contemporary events of the day. Just like everybody else, I suppose. Well, the few paying attention to begin with. The others are already distracted. They have beer and television. I’m interested in neither.

The life of a social critic has a significant cost: I have many acquaintances, but I’ve managed to offend most of my former friends. As an equal-opportunity offender, ever willing to speak truth to power, I’m largely an ascetic. To an increasing extent, I live as we all must die: alone.

One result of my abstemious existence, as we venture into the dark days ahead, is that I spend considerable time reflecting on my life goals and evaluating — constantly re-evaluating — what I live for. I have abandoned vigorous attempts to right the sinking ship of civilization, as well as half-hearted efforts to convince university administrators that my cause is just and therefore worthy. But my inability to adopt a completely hermetic life leaves me pathetically seeking solace from an indifferent universe, uninterested colleagues, and you, my online comrades.

Obviously, it didn’t start out this way.

As a carefree child in a tiny redneck logging town, smack in the heart of the Aryan nation of northern Idaho, I didn’t have a clue. According to the many email messages I’ve been receiving about my lack of belief in a single god, I still don’t. But that’s another issue. I spent the 1960s and 1970s in youthful ignorance, chasing athletic fame and the girls who came with it. In college, hormonal lust had me blowing off a decent education while I majored in basketball and women’s studies, even though Women’s Studies departments didn’t yet exist. I wasn’t particularly good at either subject, and immature adolescence eventually gave way to a responsible life in avid pursuit of the “American Dream” of financial security.

To paraphrase author and social critic Daniel Quinn, the problem was not that I thought too highly of myself, or that I thought too little of myself, but that I thought constantly of myself.
As I was working hundred-hour weeks in graduate school and beyond, I was socking away the money and serving the cultural machine of western Civil-Lie-Zation. I was simultaneously reading and failing to heed the words of Edward Abbey: All gold is fool’s gold.

Somehow, though, despite my best attempts to hide from reality, I discovered that relationships are far more important than accomplishments. Stunningly, that occurred even before I earned tenure. Not surprisingly, I learned it from my students.

I left the ivory tower to work for The Nature Conservancy, only to find more of the same. I came back and immediately taught Bill Calder’s Conservation Biology course in the wake of this friend’s death. It changed my life. It was the best course I’d ever taught because it was populated with students from more than 20 different majors, from creative writing to biology, none of whom was required to be there. During the autumn of 2001, we applied art and literature to the newly emerging enterprise of conservation biology in an attempt to bridge the two cultures of C.P. Snow (and Socrates before him, and E.O. Wilson after).

Needless to say, we failed.

Actually, we succeeded, in our own small way. Forty of us came together as a group, but society didn’t come along. We had our bubble, but reality kept sneaking in and thwarting our efforts. But I learned something important, albeit small and personal: I had to serve, in my own small way, as a teacher and social critic and companion and friend and mentor. I had to bridge the two cultures, as if that’s possible, and I had to show others how to do the same.

Along with this realization, I lost my anchor. Until I discovered myself, at the age of forty, I had believed science would save us. I had believed that rational thought was our savior. I had believed that, by abandoning fairy tales and magical thinking, we could find a secular way to enlightenment.

I failed to account for how badly scientists have lost their way. Science, as a process and a way of knowing, has unrivaled power. And you know what they say about power and corruption.
Science has not lost its way, but scientists have. They have been co-opted by objectivity, failing to recognize the impossibility of the task. They are unwilling to sacrifice their objectivity, which they do not and can not have, in exchange for doing the right thing. Like everybody else, they are unwilling to make sacrifices to serve the common good. Indeed, many of them believe they are serving the common good, although they most often are confusing the common good with common culture.

Science is no longer my anchor. But teaching is, at least for now. And trying to live, for now, as if my life matters, as if it has meaning beyond the meanings I assign it. But I’m a lot more cynical and a lot less enthusiastic than I used to be about my tiny role in this grand play.

I still struggle every day to find meaning in a universe without meaning. Who shall I serve? For now, I can serve students and society by teaching and acting as if a single life can make a difference in a world gone awry. For now, I can demonstrate the value and importance of relationships, relative to accomplishments. For now, I can be kind to individuals while forcing institutions to do right, even if it means being unkind to individuals who represent institutions. For now, I can serve people by criticizing society.

And I can find meaning everywhere, in small observations and small acts. I can find meaning, and mystery, in cliff swallows and butterflies, the kindness of strangers, and a child’s love.
But there’s no role for a social critic when civilization collapses. What then?
And there’s no role for a university professor when the university ceases to exist. What then?
It’s too late to meet the three goals I had for myself as a teenager: Live fast, die young, and leave a pretty corpse. I’m too slow, too old, and too late, respectively.

What now?


Dated 18 October 2015, my latest contribution for Shift appeared yesterday: “The Politics of Addressing Climate Change” can be read here.

Comments 113

  • thanks Guy…I haven’t dug deeply enough into the archives here…thanks for bringing these posts to the fore.

  • you’re not entirely alone.

  • Thanks for the blast from the past Guy.

    Just another of the many unusual events becoming increasingly normal:


    Woman sitting on park bench ‘spontaneously combusts’ and is now fighting for her life

    Witnesses said the victim, aged in her 40s, was relaxing on Monday evening when she suddenly burst into a ball of flames

  • Guy says – “I don’t think of myself as an adrenaline junkie. But I love downhill skiing, fighting fires, lighting fires, sex, skydiving, and…” Really? Identify the dopamine triggers and you will find your answers – and they will have been staring you in the face.

    “One result of my abstemious existence, as we venture into the dark days ahead, is that I spend considerable time reflecting on my life goals and evaluating…” An abstemious existence and self reflection are not mutually inclusive.

    “I still struggle every day to find meaning in a universe without meaning” – Well there’s yer problem.

    Tom – the link you provide does not indicate a case of SHC, there is no ‘bursting into flames’ with SHC. It’s more probably a self-immolation like Mohamed Bouazizi? The only officially documented case of SHC was in Ireland in 2011 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-15032614

  • That is one of my favorite essays of old from you Guy…, and “The Pretender” is one of my all time favorite songs…, great choices.

    Right on partner…, write on.

  • Spend your time in the company of animals. No pursuit of meaning, no thinking about the past, no worry about the future. Only the present, only being.

  • Enjoyed the Shift article Guy.

  • Goodness Gracious Me!

    Humorous personal anecdote relayed by a group of local expats recently – small child to mother: “Mummy, can Granddad do facebook in heaven?”
    Sign of the times eh?

    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer

  • All objectivity IS subjective, subconscious predilections cannot be obviated.

  • .
    There has been growing concern, of late, that one predicted consequence of a changing climate — the slowing of the great “overturning” circulation in the Atlantic Ocean — is already starting to happen.

    Some scientists have already suggested that the odd cold “blob” pattern on the map above, featuring record cold North Atlantic temperatures on an otherwise quite hot planet, may be attributable to this development. The gigantic circulation, technically termed the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation or AMOC, carries warm water northward even as it also sends cold salty water back south at depth. Thus, changes here can reverberate around the globe — one recent study even found that a full AMOC shutdown could trigger a temporary period of global cooling.

  • I don’t know if I’ve ever been happier to be a Canuck than I am today. After ten lost years under the reptiloid climate wrecker Stephen Harper, we got massive governmental change, especially on the issue of climate change. Yes, it’s too late, but at least we’ll have a chance to go down swinging.

    Keep in mind that this article is from our newspaper that is Canada’s approximation of a Murdoch rag. That makres it all the more astonishing.

    Trudeau signals climate policy a priority with selection of ‘strong’ new minister, cabinet committee

    OTTAWA — As signals go, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has put a big green light on his Liberal government’s promised climate change agenda.

    Catherine McKenna, an international lawyer with an eye-popping resume, was named the new minister of “environment and climate change” Wednesday at Rideau Hall as Trudeau installed his new Liberal cabinet.

    But the signs of climate policy green shoots go well beyond a high-profile new MP and the semantics of a ministerial name change.

    Former Liberal environment minister and party leadership climate advocate Stephane Dion is Canada’s new foreign affairs minister — a powerful post that will give him oversight on ensuring climate policy is integral to Canada’s foreign policy.

    Dion was also named chairman of a new cabinet committee on “environment, climate change and energy.”

    That committee will also include new Science Minister Kirsty Duncan, a former University of Windsor climatology professor who served on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

    With less than a month to go before the COP21 United Nations climate conference in Paris, their work begins immediately.

    “Canada is going to be a strong and positive actor on the world stage, including in Paris at COP21,” Trudeau said outside Rideau Hall following Wednesday’s swearing-in.

    “That’s why we have a very strong minister — not just of the environment, but minister of the environment and climate change — who will be at the heart of this discussion.”

    McKenna, whose background includes practising international trade law in Indonesia, founding Canadian Lawyers Abroad and acting as a negotiator for the UN peacekeeping mission in East Timor, brings more to the table than simply knocking off NDP stalwart Paul Dewar, the party’s high-profile foreign affairs critic, in a downtown Ottawa riding.

    “I know Canadians expect us to have a very ambitious plan,” McKenna, 44, said during a very brief media scrum on Parliament Hill following the first Liberal cabinet meeting.

    “This is the reason I got into politics — to make a difference. I have three children and this is a very, very important file for me.”

    The rookie MP also has backup.

    “We have an amazing team of strong cabinet members who will lean in with the kind of engagement, both with the provinces and municipalities and countries around the world, to demonstrate that Canada is doing its part to address climate change impacts,” said Trudeau.

    Minister of Foreign Affairs Stephane Dion was also named chairman of a new cabinet committee on ‘environment, climate change and energy.’

    The cabinet climate and energy committee includes new Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr, the founding CEO of the Business Council of Manitoba, along with Hunter Tootoo, the former Nunavut legislator who has been handed Fisheries and Oceans and responsibility for the Coast Guard. Also included are the ministers responsible for agriculture, infrastructure, First Nations and economic development.

    Combining the environment, climate change and energy policy under a single cabinet committee recognizes the inextricable links between Canada’s resource policies and its environmental record. Including both Carr and Amerjeet Sohi, the rookie Edmonton MP who becomes Trudeau’s infrastructure minister, suggests climate policy will include a diversity of perspectives.

    Dion, the committee chairman, led the Liberal party to defeat in the 2008 election on a revolutionary platform that proposed redrawing federal taxation by imposing significant carbon taxes, offset by income tax cuts. He famously named the family dog Kyoto, after the city where the original 1997 international climate protocol was forged.

    Late Wednesday, Dion called the climate question “the most important of the century: How human beings will be able to have a sustainable development instead of a self-destructing development?”

    “This cannot be done if Canada is not part of the solution,” Dion told reporters.

    Environmental groups were quick to offer qualified praise of the new cabinet.

    Louise Comeau of the Climate Action Network singled out McKenna and Dion for leadership.

    “We welcome today’s appointments of two ministers with such a commitment to social justice and human rights, as well as United Nations and climate change experience,” Comeau said in a release.

    Green party Leader Elizabeth May said she looked “forward to working with Mr. Trudeau and the cabinet to start repairing Canada’s international reputation at the upcoming climate negotiations.”

    And Greenpeace Canada climate researcher Keith Stewart issued a statement that: “Names matter, and we hope that the appointment of a minister of environment and climate change indicates that Canada’s federal government is at last ready on climate change to take real action in the fight against climate change.

  • um yeah…thanks for all your service, guy…I dreamed you were cleaning my bathrooms this morning…trying to make me feel guilty for not doing it.

  • I’ve been think a lot about that lately: “What I Live for?” Some of it is to see Babylon fall and also to enjoy what’s left of Nature and wilderness. A few years ago I experienced the same loss of enthusiasm for changing the world. I too thought rationality/logic could save the world.

    In fact, Jesus (if he existed and certainly did not walk on water) was the Logos or logic (John 1:1) of God and I thought “Christians” could be enlightened that Jesus said, “You can’t serve God and Money”(Mammon), told his disciples to go forth without Money in their purses and upset the tables of the moneychangers. And, the “mark” of the beast is really money! (Another mistranslated word.) But as then, the Pharisees (hypocrites) would crucify Christ, the Truth and Logos. They are not “Christians” but “Saint” Paulians, who is illogical, anti-Christ, anti-logos.

  • Keep on pretending (when it’s NOT alright)! (My fave singer/band)

  • Guy,

    Should we live to save humankind, despite the high probability that we will fail? I think so, because I believe in miracles. Is it not a miracle that humanity has not killed itself since the invention of nuclear weapons?

    I think we should try to save humanity from the climate crisis because maybe we’ll succeed.


  • Dare I make any comment to as direct & honest a self appraisal as I ever read?


    Because I, too, am agonizing about the fatal ugly mess we humans made, trying to tell the truth as best I can before I go back to stardust, & make the best of dying a slow death right along with you.

    Observing lying, deceit, deception, usury, genuine madness, & outright stupidity play out to extinction thwarts everything I lived for too.

    I am trying to die on my own terms, but in the process I still hold with your dictum; “Science, as a process and a way of knowing, has unrivaled power.”

    “Unrivaled power” to differentiate truth from falsehood.

    But I know full well that seeking objective truth comes with Shakespeare’s witch’s brew; “bubble, bubble, toil, & trouble.”

    Who knows this painful truth better than you?

    Masterful historian David Irving lectures; “I know that I am disliked, but a least I know why I’m disliked & by whom.”

    Alienation/separation from some of one’s sincere & decent fellows as well as one’s hateful but well adjusted enemies is the cost.

    Dante; “Take what you want & pay for it.”

    You’re completely right; Science won’t & can’t save us.

    Nevertheless, scientific objectivity is the best method ever discovered to help fallible humans grasp the objective truth of what is happening to every planetary being, especially now.

    I plan to “do objective science” until I can’t.

    Bill Nye’s despicable sell out stabs objective science & his trusting fellows right in the back – “You too, Brutus?”

    Your words above demonstrate that you are still pushing the big rock up the hill of ignorance.

    Don’t be so surprised that, like Diogenes, you can’t stop pushing.

    On his deathbed Darwin supposedly said; “I am not in the least afraid to die.”

    I am hoping that I can do likewise.

  • Tyler, I believe you’re making two incorrect assumptions: (1) I have suggested inaction, and (2) humans are more important than other species. Have you even a shred of evidence to support either claim?

  • Guy, I know you haven’t suggested inaction. I think you’ve also stated that it is inevitable that humans will go extinct, or nearly extinct, by 2030.

    I don’t have a shred of evidence that humans are more important than other species. I don’t want humans to go extinct, but I care a great deal about other species, too.

  • Sorry, sorry, third post of the day and all that but my emergency Christian detector just bent the needle and there can only be one clip as an swift antidote:

    All together now…..”He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!”


    The Harlot’s House
    Oscar Wilde

    We caught the tread of dancing feet,
    We loitered down the moonlit street,
    And stopped beneath the harlot’s house.

    Inside, above the din and fray,
    We heard the loud musicians play
    The ‘Treues Liebes Herz’ of Strauss.

    Like strange mechanical grotesques,
    Making fantastic arabesques,
    The shadows raced across the blind.

    We watched the ghostly dancers spin
    To sound of horn and violin,
    Like black leaves wheeling in the wind.

    Like wire-pulled automatons,
    Slim silhouetted skeletons
    Went sidling through the slow quadrille,

    Then took each other by the hand,
    And danced a stately saraband;
    Their laughter echoed thin and shrill.

    Sometimes a clockwork puppet pressed
    A phantom lover to her breast,
    Sometimes they seemed to try to sing.

    Sometimes a horrible marionette
    Came out, and smoked its cigarette
    Upon the steps like a live thing.

    Then, turning to my love, I said,
    ‘The dead are dancing with the dead,
    The dust is whirling with the dust.’

    But she–she heard the violin,
    And left my side, and entered in:
    Love passed into the house of lust.

    Then suddenly the tune went false,
    The dancers wearied of the waltz,
    The shadows ceased to wheel and whirl.

    And down the long and silent street,
    The dawn, with silver-sandalled feet,
    Crept like a frightened girl.


    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

    Mahatma Gandhi

  • Guy asks “What now?

    Keep snapping some people out of the cultural trances.

    There is a growing traction.

    Fresh powder.

  • Zarquan: no, it’s bursting into flames (NOT SHC – as the headline is in quotes because there’s no name for this, but the effect is the same), a (recently) “new” phenomenon that’s been happening since the methane/hydrogen sulfide emanations from the ground and especially from water sources for at least the past 5 years. These gases “stick to” porous materials (adsorbtion) and can become explosive or burst into flames at the slightest spark (often from H2S meeting electrified copper, rust, or flame or static electricity).

    i’ve been reading about numerous instances of people doing otherwise “normal” activities – like going out on the porch for a smoke, or burning leaves and twigs – and suddenly being engulfed in flames. It’s happening more and more often. As are spontaneous fires in parked vehicles; exploding homes (some of which have been vacant for years, with no gas or electrical service); exploding underground electrical boxes and manholes; and now passenger planes are having problems with this same phenomenon – smoke in the cockpit or cabin area, flaming engines (preceded by loud bangs), engine failure (in small planes); and people dropping dead suddenly for no apparent reason, while fishing, walking, jogging, hunting, swimming and boating (to name a few).

    i used to link to Jonny Mnemonics site (Jumping Jack Flash Hypothesis) regularly to alert people to this, but nobody is paying any attention and most (including the “authorities”) want to find any other plausible excuse except the obvious (or just ignore it) – methane/hydrogen sulfide becoming ever more concentrated in the atmosphere, which is actually occurring.

    So the headline is “technically” incorrect, but what DO we call it when someone is sitting on a park bench and BURSTS INTO FLAMES FOR NO APPARENT REASON? How about just Spontaneous Combustion (whether it’s a human or a parked car makes no difference to the incident occurring).

  • Scientists warned the US president about global warming 50 years ago today

    (When You Are Governed By Psychopaths – 5)

  • Paul: i hope some of that trickles down here. Our elections are pathetic wastes of time and money since the only candidates that are eligible are those who “play ball” with the two parties that give you the same outcome no matter who gets elected. It’s just a matter of to what extent its carried out. For example: Barack Obama, mister hope and change, no sooner took office than he turned his back on all the illegal, unconstitutional activities of the Bush era and CONTINUED along the same Republican line of constant war and cutting of social services.

    Through gerrymandering districts to assure they get re-elected, our incumbents, who constantly look to pad their campaign funds, are also open to bribery – but it’s been “re-defined” as campaign contributions, look to game the system in their favor; and if that doesn’t work, they always can fall back on arcane rules, like the Electoral College, or the Supreme Court to decide (yeah, they aren’t SUPPOSED to be a political body, but in reality, they are, in spades now) in their favor (ala Bush vs Gore). Other candidates, like Nader, are completely cut out of the race – even by physical force (not allowed to attend the debates, he was physically barred from the building).

    Politics just keeps this faux dumbocratic system rolling along (over the environment and all constituents except the rich and powerful).
    i only participate in local elections, and even they aren’t worth the time (see Kevin Moore’s excellent analysis of politicians).

    Colin! Nice to see you’re still around!

  • hey Gerald, does your wife or your maid clean your bathrooms?

  • There is a terrific piece at robertscribbler.com with definitive text & visuals showing our planet’s escalating heat death.

    Scribbler’s piece also has a thorough attack on Tex. Rep. & lawyerfish Lamar Smith’s ongoing witch hunting of NOAA.

    Really dark times.

    Dark times of rampant, media-supported climate change doubt and denial mongering. Dark times when global temperatures are hitting new all-time record highs and extreme weather and climate change related events are growing in scope, scale, and danger. Dark times when it is becoming all-too-obvious that the fossil fuel companies of the world are committed to continue burning their dangerous and heat amplifying fuels regardless of the cost or pain or devastation inflicted upon others. Inflicted on persons, communities and the very nations of this world. Dark times when public officials level unfounded and baseless attacks against the very science upon which we depend to track the dangerous and growing crisis that is human-forced warming of the globe.

  • Tens of thousands of innocent people, including tiny children, have burst into flames & been completely carbonized/vaporized in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Gaza concentration Camp, Libya, & Syria.

    The causes of the ongoing murderous carbonizing of these innocent Muslim human beings are some of the most sophisticated & diabolical weaponry ever devised by human ingenuity.

    Nothing mysterious about it.

  • I visited my aunt today and out of the blue she said, ” I was watching a TV show last night and there were two scientists. One of them said that we could be finished by 2030.” That’s all she mentioned and then someone else switched brain channels to take the conversation elsewhere. The 2030 date does get some attention.

  • Paul Chefurka Says:
    November 5th, 2015 at 8:53 am
    I don’t know if I’ve ever been happier to be a Canuck than I am today. After ten lost years under the reptiloid climate wrecker Stephen Harper, we got massive governmental change, especially on the issue of climate change. Yes, it’s too late, but at least we’ll have a chance to go down swinging

    Paul, I really enjoy your comments on NBL, and I most certainly agree with your view of Stephen Harper, and more importantly, that IT’S TOO LATE, but this new group of politicians will be just as effective on the climate change front, as all the others before them. In other words, it won’t make any difference at all. I didn’t hear any of them talk about civilization as a heat engine. Hmmm, I wonder why??

    I did my “venting” about this recent election charade at my blog, which I copied below.


    POST # 187

    Canadians turned out in droves two days ago to vote for a new federal government. Apparently over 70% of eligible voters made their way to their respective voting centres to cast a vote. I imagine that most if not all of those who voted (and I’m certainly not one of them) felt that their vote could “make a difference.”

    The four main choices were, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, and the Green party. Even for someone like myself who spends next to zero time listening to the mainstream media, it was still difficult to not be bombarded with the pre-election party hype about how a vote for “them” was going to be the right choice going forward. Every party, including the Green party had at the very top of their agenda, jobs and growth. Jobs and growth, jobs and growth, it’s all about jobs and growth. “Just vote for me and I’ll make sure to provide more “JOBS AND GROWTH.” Now, you would have thought that at least the Green party would put the environment ahead of jobs and growth, but if you thought that, you would have been wrong.

    Not once did I hear Stephen Harper (Conservative), Justin Trudeau (Liberal), Tom Mulcair (NDP) or Elizabeth May (Greens) bring up the fact that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have infinite growth on a finite planet. I guess they all figured that we can just keep on digging up, burning up, trashing up the planet, without any consequences. After all, “we’ve got technology, dude.”

    If any of these “leaders” spent a few moments to actually THINK, they would have to understand that you just can’t continue to use up any particular “resource” no matter what it is, and expect it to be there forever and ever in order to maintain ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. (On a small side note, it’s interesting how the word SUSTAINABLE, has now wiggled it’s way into the narrative. Continued development = bad, sustainable development= good.) Of course, if any of them were to admit to that truth, ( the impossibility of infinite growth on a finite planet), then they would also have to question the concept of ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. And if they questioned that, then they might have to question just why they’re up there in the first place asking for your vote? But we are way, way too far into this set of living arrangements called industrial civilization to make any significant changes at this point. This makes all political parties, irrelevant. The system will continue to pulverize the living world that we and all other species depend upon for life, until, in the end, even life itself won’t be possible. But you won’t hear those politicians talk about that. As far as I can see, politicians have two primary goals. The first is to get elected, and the second is to stay elected. Harper managed to keep the second goal going for quite some time, but now it’s Trudeau’s turn. The slogan for his party was “real change.” I’m not sure what the difference is between change, and real change, but perhaps the Liberals didn’t want to align themselves too closely with the Obama, “hope and change” mantra. We’ve all seen how well that has worked out since early 2009.


  • Paul Chefurka

    I too am happy to see the dreadful Harper out of office, but surely you don’t think anything will fundamentally change, do you? Perhaps a slight reduction in fascism in the short term?

    Words come easily to politicians, and actions rarely, if ever, match the words. Indeed, the way things work around here practically everything official is a combination of outright lies, Orwellian clap-trap, and bread and circuses; any pledge to act on climate change amounts to a tiny amount of lip service completely swamped by promotion of business-as-usual.

    And surely that must always be so in any industrialised nation with a corrupt government consisting of opportunists and bought-and-paid for liars. In the western system the very purpose of government is to promote business-as-usual and to totally ignore anything that might threaten the culture of short-termism and business-as-usual, as I have learned over many years of attempting to deal with both central and local government. In the eyes of politicians and bureaucrats, any reference to ‘protecting the environment’ means protecting the business-as-usual environment.

    The reality is, maintaining an industrialised economy and taking credible action on climate change (or anything else environmental) are mutually exclusive concepts. And we already know which will be sacrificed for the other.

    If Canada stops digging up tar sands to extract low-grade hydrocarbons it will be because it costs more to do so than can be obtained as profits.

    If Canada stops printing money to keep consumerism alive it will be because the banking system has gone kaput.

    Until the industrial system destroys itself, I believe we will always get more of the same.

    I’d love to be proven wrong.


    Thanks for the Guardian link.

    “Scientists warned the US president about global warming 50 years ago today”

    It has been discussed on NBL in the past. But that was when the warning was only 45 years previous.

  • Great show(s) Guy. I think NG and Murdock have some kind of plan in store, we shall see. People are starting to take note of you and your work.

  • It is hard to stomach when you realize that the end of the world as we know is coming to an end.
    For many years I also believed that science and technology would save us but when you add up the numbers our number is up. People ask when is it going to happen and expect a precise date. I don’t know and nobody knows. All I know that it is coming and it could happen any moment from now or it could go on for another few years.
    The sad thing is that we have known for many years that we as humans were on a path of self destruction and done nothing about it. Many species on this planet have already gone extinct because of our greed for resources to better our lives. Many of our fellow humans paying a high price because of the greed for our limited resources by a privileged few.
    Guy you are not alone and I feel your pain as it pains me too. Keep up your good work.
    Let’s go down swinging.

  • Just to clarify my position…

    No, this new batch of Canadian pols will be no more effective than the old batch at things that matter – they can’t be, it’s out of their hands and under the control of 2LoT.

    But since we’re toast anyway, and there are no longer political “things that matter”, why not go down smiling at something? I no longer expect pols to make a difference to any outcomes, I expect them to apply short-term palliatives, to be good entertainers, and to make me feel good about something while I wait for the train to go over the cliff. From that POV, Trudeau is a veritable rain-maker. An organ-grinder’s monkey in a red tie, who dances up a storm.

  • @Tim

    I hung around on National Geographic the other night, after Bill and Guy said their goodbyes, and watched a show about the Ebola problem. And I’m wondering,”What Ebola problem?”

    There is practically no Ebola left in Africa.

    Hear what the Nigerians have to say:

  • Wolfgang

    Collapse comes one person at a time, one family at a time, one community at a time, one district at a time, one nation at a time.

    Most of us with Internet access live in places where the still-standing portions far outnumber the collapsed portions, for the moment.

    Like a sandcastle in the sun, it is all slowly crumbling away. And the tide is coming in. But for now we can still see a sandcastle.

    I have just returned from cycling past road and bridge construction: there is still plenty of cheap liquid fuel available to run heavy machinery that moves dirt and gravel, delivers steel, pumps concrete, and spreads asphalt.

    Next year we are going to be subjected to yet another celebration of everything that is wrong: Americarna.

    There is not much collapse around here yet, other than the young people who hang around the city centre, smoking and consuming fast food and sugary drinks, though I have heard that many farmers are on suicide watch.

  • McPherson in NOV 2009 Bread & Circuses

    The big news on the climate-change front this week, for those of you living in caves, involves a big dose of denial. A large number of emails from the University of East Anglia webmail server were hacked, thus igniting a controversy about whether global climate change is “real.”

    In a word, yes. Lethally so.
    The famous climate-change hockey stick

    The famous climate-change hockey stick barely hints at the dire days ahead

    Interesting timing, wouldn’t you say? Immediately before world leaders meet in Copenhagen to discuss how they will respond to the probable extinction of our species, we’re saved. Global climate change is all made up, silly. Those scientists were just playing mind games. Government leaders need do nothing at all. Go back to your SUVs and televisions.

    I should have known Guy smoking cigarettes was only a TV illusion. I had a memory of Professor Guy being against smoking at UofA. When I was a college student I smoked. Worse yet for Gerald I was happy to work part time for Spielberg who’s mother Leah lived in Phoenix. Leah Spielberg helped fund one of my fathers Arizona congress campaigns. TOM Oh No, Gerald is going into spontaneous combustion!!!

    Gloucon X – Extinction level buttons are tested almost daily by cyber attacks on nuclear systems. Space weapons. Bio-gen induced pandemic labs. CERN & other high energy tests. Some atmospheric tests conducted by DARPA could prove to be very dangerous. Many countries are connected to the vast military industrial complex that gambles with warfare & potential extinction level “events” each week. Of course it means nothing until the instant one of these many projects goes wrong. Depending on which event/test goes critical…most people will know nothing when the power goes out. Will the power be back in a day? Many will have no media or idea waves of invisible radiation are coming as they sit blind. Without electricity how will you know what’s happening? Only a few will have access to satellites in their sophisticated bunkers. The Rand corp is among many Think Tanks who provide weekly analysis on when & why it is the best time to proceed with mass extinction events. Luckily there is also the contrast of wanting to continue BAU for as long as possible. Please talk to anyone who has access to the FEMA, DOD, Rand corp reports. There is always a plan for extinction level events. Many depts & Fox media are keeping an eye on more than Methane levels. It might go far beyond 2033 but it also might happen at any moment when the powers (including China) decide today is the day. Nature will deal with the meltdowns and extensive radiation which does alter the ozone. We have developed a massive amount of extinction powers. Time will tell. DARPA 675 Randolph St. Arlington VA. 22203

  • I urge anyone who is interested to read the link below.( I have mentioned it previously}. The comments are worth reading. If you don’t want to read them ,the chief scientist at the CSIRO makes this statement:

    ‘But in the long run,the collapse of planetary life support systems would be expected to have very negative impacts on economic growth’

    To which I replied:

    ‘Are you joking? What field of science were you trained in? The collapse of planetary life support systems means that we are extinct. End of story.’

    To which he replied:

    ‘I am sticking to the facts here. I am not aware of any published study
    of the economic impacts of planetary collapse. If it causes the extinction of humans then obviously GDP falls to zero. But the planetary
    boundary authors do not make that claim. (continues )



  • How to tell the difference between Man and Mann (without asking them to pull down their shorts).

    שמע ישראיל נונ פשותא אלוהינו נונ פשותא אחד

    “What is he without those spirits?”

    The Self of all selves: subtler than the subtlest, of itself not perceptible in the absence of an object of perception: not graspable in the tongs of the mundane, yet manifest as every object of perception.

    “What is the Universe other than a Universe of spirits?”

    Sans “spirits”/”objects of perception”, it is the imperceptible perceiver non-perceiving a universe bereft of objects.

    “Not to say that it’s easy to advance that far or fast,”

    It is all a matter of adhikaritva (preparedness). For the fully prepared, all they need is to hear -just once, in passing – “You are Buddha”, and instantly, without need for meditation or other rituals, realisation exists.

    The Buddhist Aryan Eightfold Path lists meditation as the last, because an adequate practice of the first seven, or for that matter even just the first IN FULL MEASURE renders the subsequent ones superfluous.

    “I meant to say, “is accessible to all humans in this life not starving or living in war zones.””

    Totally inaccessible. Accessibility refers to an object that is to be accessed. Awareness is awareness OF an object. When “awareness” is reified as an object, it ceases to be awareness, and does not have the property of awareness. It is the Being of all aware beings at all times and places under all circumstances: not accessible like an object, just one’s being.

    “So by your reasoning you shoot him up with enough morphine that he can’t feel the pain anymore, but congratulations, he drops dead right in front of you because you stopped his heart with the painkiller. Brilliant.”

    Morphine is not cardioplegic. Associated hypotension can be managed by volume and vasopressors. While I worked, I came to prefer Dilaudid + Ativan for acute pain relief; a sufficiently large dose should be administered, and titrated upwards appropriately.

    When pursuing desensitisation regimens with antigens for allergies, starting low is de rigueur.

    “Two people I have known for many years have told me they had an experience where they went out of their body.”

    I have seen my sleeping body lying in my bed. Nothing to see here folks, move on!

    “The people here are mostly not willing to open their minds to other dimensions.”

    Eff all the other dimensions. This one’s more than enough if one has got all one’s s**t together.

    “As the linked article indicated, steel reinforcing deep inside concrete slowly gets attacked under moist conditions and reverts to iron oxide-hydroxide, which has little strength.”

    What is worse is that the oxides and hydroxides of iron have greater volume than the iron itself, and the resultisg expansion cracks the cement internally not only weakening it, but allowing further intrusion of air and water.

    Awareness is akin to a light, and like a light source such as a candle flame or the sun, casts no shadow; even in an apparent darkest abyss TO THE SOURCE OF AWARENESS, there is no darkness within its awareness, no matter how faint the flicker may be to others. There is no unawareness within awareness: even what is deemed unawareness is awareness of unawarenesss. There is neither purpose in the universe nor need for purpose, when all is light.

  • What Guy wrote in Nov 2009 posted above will likely be repeated in next 2 weeks before Paris summit. Lamar Smith & James Inhofe staff have already used official channels to search Dept communications. There is much deeper reasons for their NOAA attack than typical demented denial. 6 million transferred from Heartland fund last week guarantees they can afford to hack, access & subpeona.

    Gerald Spezio – I appologize for my gallows humor above. I know Speilberg is a master of disinfo. His current dark blue yacht Seven Seas in Ft. Lauderdale is docked next to Carlos Slims mega-yacht. Therir staggering wealth & power is terrifying.

    Gloucon X – Add EMP’s to the weekly Rand analysis I paraphrased above. Per your question the other day. Many countries are very serious about controlling riots & banking collapse with rapid De-population. But I doubt it will happen until last minute because so much is invested in the profits of extraction. Enough elite people have amazingly splendid lifestyles that they plan to maintain at all costs…including a controlled exit if possible. You really have to see it for a moment from their technological advantage point to understand why we will be quite blind compared to them when the events unfold. Possibly even by next fall there are reasons a “surprise” attack might be more advantageous to them than elections & accelerated heatwaves.

  • Paul Chefurka Says:
    November 5th, 2015 at 3:23 pm
    Just to clarify my position… and, An organ-grinder’s monkey in a red tie, who dances up a storm.

    Thanks for the clarification, Paul. And the laugh as well. I imagine that there are a significant number of Canucks, especially the ones in the baby boomer category, who think that Trudeau 2.0 will save the day. Ha, ha, ha!!!!
    These same baby boomers, obviously haven’t spent any time here at NBL.
    At least there are two Canucks, you and me, who understand what’s really going on.

  • Kevin,

    collapse is already on the way even where you. You may not see it but the dominoes have started to fall and can’t be stopped.
    The nations credit cards have been past being maxed out and the time has come to settle our debt.
    Humanity is facing a double whammy the economy and mother nature.
    When it goes bad it will happen very quickly. The cracks are already there.
    I hope I’m wrong but I think we will see the first wave of destruction within the next 2 years.

  • Frances Cornford wrote those lines about Rupert Brooke. Cornford was a granddaughter of Charles Darwin.

  • Paul Marcotte: re pulp and paper mills

    My first attempt to reply on this, two threads back, got zapped in the upload ( again ). Forgot to make a copy, I think it has a timer on the captcha maybe?

    I didn’t last long in my paper mill career, I was a little better with sawmills. A friend of mine worked at Port Alice. He said when they dumped their excess huge vat-loads of contaminated process chemicals into the inlet it wiped out all the lifeforms in the inter-tidal zone. The whole of Alice Arm. This was part of the standard design operation for those mills, spewing out huge amounts of dioxins into whatever body of water was handy to dump in. Not to mention the air was a thick chlorine-laden fog that you could almost chew.

    There were at least 16 mills operating in BC in the 70s. Down to about 10 now I think, partly due to lack of wood. I once saw the Fraser river ( normally light brown ) running black when driving south from Prince George ( or maybe Quesnel ) in the winter, the whole way down as far as Lytton. I looked for something in the news about it but not a word.

    When the reasons and the blame for the demise of the fisheries was debated the pulp and paper industry never seemed to be mentioned.

  • What now?

    What now? Now, that’s what.

    All the meaning, the significance, the relationships, the value – are embedded here, in the irreducible Now.

    Today’s pre-dawn dog-walking insight was that my life has begun to resemble one long Vipassana meditation. Events, both inside and out, flow by impaled on the arrow of time. I regard them all with impartial curiosity. Events, thoughts and feelings appear, linger a moment, then disappear. Others immediately take their place.

    The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on.

  • It’s important not to let your obsession with the end result cloud your reasoning. Feudalism, communism, socialism, capitolism, collapsism — it doesn’t matter what the ism is. Mark my words and mark them well, China will never stop burning coal.

  • nice observations paul…and I am st.sebastion today…impaled by the arrows of man.

  • Contrary to those idiots at the NYT, we are not going to live in “self-healing” cities or terra-form Mars.

    Contrary to those idiots at 350-dot-org, we are not going to get rich off of renewable energy

    How I Know We Are Totally Fucked

    How I Know We’re Totally Fucked from collapse

  • hey Robert! good to see you…I thought you had been swept away by the hands of time! the flim flam of man! the titanics new band! the hour glass sand! for these are the knaves of our strife!

  • I have been presented with the following link by a metals inve3stor with imperial neo-colonial investments on 3 continents. Along with photos mocking Al Gore, that this study is the definitive proof that climate change is really global cooling:


  • Wester – That study ends at 2008. A lot has happened since then and not in a good way.

  • we are SAVED

  • An idea struck me this morning if the recent Nat Geo piece was a ‘trial balloon’ to gauge public reaction to NTHE and Climate Collapse? Possibly in preparation for the upcoming COP21 Paris talks and media coverage? Any thoughts on this?


    Song For Guy – Elton John

    From wiki: ‘Elton said this in the sleeve notes of the 7″ single:’

    “…As I was writing this song one Sunday, I imagined myself floating into space and looking down at my own body. I was imagining myself dying. Morbidly obsessed with these thoughts, I wrote this song about death. The next day I was told that Guy (Burchett), our 17 year-old messenger boy, had been tragically killed on his motorcycle the day before. Guy died on the day I wrote this song.”…

    …It is instrumental until the end, in which the line “Life isn’t everything” is repeated over the primary melody.’

    Strange that this very subject has cropped up at NBL recently and the heading of this thread is ‘What I Live For’.

  • How to define MAN, or any other species for that matter?

    A joke will do.

    “Two deaf people get married and during the first week of marriage, they find that they are unable to communicate in the bedroom with the lights out since they can’t see each other signing or read lips.

    After several nights of fumbling around and many misunderstandings, the wife figures out a solution.

    She writes a note to her husband: ‘Honey, why don’t we agree on some simple signals? For instance, at night, if you want to have sex with me, reach over and squeeze my left breast one time. If you don’t want to have sex, reach over and squeeze my right breast two times.

    The husband thinks this is a great idea. He writes back to his wife that if she wants to have sex with him, reach over and pull on his penis one time. If she doesn’t want to have sex, pull on his penis two hundred and fifty times.”

  • “Look,up in the sky…?”
    “It’s a bird,it’s a plane.”
    “No, it’s stupid man!”

    Yes, it’s Stupid Man. Able to leap over solid facts, ignore all reason, defy any logic…?

    “Up, up and away”

  • in my beautiful, my beautiful balloon…

  • .
    “Look,up in the sky…?”
    “It’s a bird,it’s a plane.”
    “No, it’s stupid man!”

    Look mommy, there’s an airplane up in the sky …


  • What I live for.

    What I die for.

    We should all disclose any ties whatsoever to the fossil fuel industry.

    I’ll go first: none, zero, zip nada, never frickin’ happen!


    (Oil-Qaeda & MOMCOM Conspire To Commit Depraved-Heart Murder- 3)

  • kevin moore Says:
    November 5th, 2015 at 2:22 pm


    Thanks for the Guardian link.

    “Scientists warned the US president about global warming 50 years ago today”

    It has been discussed on NBL in the past. But that was when the warning was only 45 years previous.
    What is your connection?

  • dredd, I swear I haven’t worn a suit since the junior prom.

  • ‘What is your connection?’

    No connection, just a memory of something I had seen.

    I now know governments misrepresent and lie about practically everything.

    And there is nothing we can do about it.

  • We’re into November and ‘everything is fine’ if you don’t look too closely.

    Those expecting/desiring global economic collapse may be amused by the following:

    It’s Official: The Baltic Dry Index Has Crashed To Its Lowest November Level In History

    2015 has been an ‘odd’ year. Typically this time of year sees demand picking up amid holiday inventory stacking and measures of global trade such as The Baltic Dry Index rise from mid-summer to Thanksgiving. This year, it has not.


    Giant Sucking Sound of Capital Destruction in US Oil & Gas

    Chesapeake Energy is a good example. The second largest natural gas producer in the US, after Exxon, reported its debacle yesterday.

    Revenues plunged 49% from the quarter a year ago, when the oil bust had already set in. The company has been slashing costs and capital expenditures. In June, it eliminated its dividend. And yesterday, it recognized $5.4 billion in impairment charges, bringing impairments for the nine months to a staggering $15.4 billion.


    Why Are Primary Dealers Are Liquidating Corporate Bonds At An Unprecedented Pace


  • https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/06/obama-rejects-keystone-xl-pipeline

    TransCanada, the Canadian firm behind the pipeline, said it was disappointed with Obama’s decision. “Today, misplaced symbolism was chosen over merit and science – rhetoric won out over reason,” Russ Girling, the chief executive of TransCanada, said in a statement.

  • Economics priesthood is marketing brain damage, mumbo jumbo, & sorcery.

    A sense of crisis is developing in economics after two Federal Reserve economists came to the alarming conclusion that economics research is usually not replicable.

    The economists took 67 empirical papers from 13 reputable academic journals. Without assistance from the original researchers they were only able to get the same result in a third of cases.

    With the original researchers’ assistance, that percentage increased to about half, suggesting reporting practices and requirements are seriously deficient.

    The replication crisis in psychology is well-documented. Science recently published a stunning report by the Open Science Collaboration. Almost 300 researchers were involved in trying to directly replicate the results of 100 papers published in 2008. This followed earlier exercises involving many labs (such as here, here and here.)

    The researchers did not succeed in the clear majority of cases. On average they found the mean effect size to be only half of what was reported in the original studies. While the report has been questioned (here and here,) there is growing concern that a cornerstone of the scientific edifice is in serious need of renovation.

    The original paper is painfully dense & tortuously academic, but the conclusions are mandatory for mental hygiene.


  • Bloomberg is saying we can survive 2.5c.

  • @dave thompson.. O. M. G. ! Where did they get this 2 and a HALF °C?? Things are F’d up now at 1°C.

    Thanks for the link.. rather chilling the breezy presentation.

  • Pamela Bondi is the elected Attorney General of Florida, a staunch Republican, & a former Fox News legal analyst.

    She recently announced that she’s joining a lawsuit with the attorney generals of 23 other states against the Obama administration’s requirements to curb carbon emissions.

    She has a bachelor’s degree from the U. of Florida in criminal justice & a law degree from Stetson U, also in Florida.

    Pamela’s plentiful opponents accuse her of “severe science deficiency.”

    When you are trained in adversarial masquerade, dressing up to impress, & linguistic bamboozle; all problems are legal problems that can only be “argued” by impeccably dressed lawyerfish before other Holy Lawyerfish dressed in black bathrobes.

  • Jes ‘n case y’all dassent know, I am 100% fossil fuel: jes ’bout every effing calorie in mise bawdy:

    Eating Fossil Fuels by Dale Allen Pfeiffer

    ‘n all owrgunnic: dem dinosaurs were owrgunnic, weren’t they?

  • @kevin moore: re the quote from the Trans Canada CEO being disappointed. Well it seems that there is plenty of disappointment to go around.
    In another article from RT, it states in part:
    “Before the announcement, Obama spoke to Trudeau, who expressed disappointment”
    So much for the “real change” part of the Liberal campaign. It’s all so very predictable at this late stage, and I’ve got that old Who classic song “Won’t Get Fooled Again” bouncing around in my head.
    “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.”

    @Robin Datta”
    That was one of the first books that I read back in 2006 regarding our addiction to oil. What are the numbers again, 10 calories of fossil fuel energy to produce 1 calorie of food?
    You’re correct, we’re all connected to the oil industry with almost every bite.

  • New mashup video featuring Guy, Paul, Natalia, etc.


    “…making him think that the worst thing might happen…”

    Don’t worry though, Keystone XL got the axe today! Everything is wonderful!

  • There is a minor but not insignificant error at the beginning of the video.

    Where screen says 2013 in print, Natalia is actually speaking in the spring (April?) of 2012 in Vienna, Austria at the European Geophysical Conference.

    Nick Breeze posted it in July 2013.

    When I first saw it in early August 2013, there were 100 views.

    I consider it as the Rosetta Stone for Arctic methane research, information, & prediction, most especially now because her words are more than three years old.

    Except for her ominous Franken-prediction that 50 Gigatons of deadly methane could be released from the ESAS in the near future (decades), data gathered during the last THREE plus years has tragically confirmed her rather rudimentary predictions.

    Natalia is probably making the greatest scientific prediction in history.

  • The other way for it all to end rather quickly:

    ‘The US military-intelligence complex is engaged in systematic preparations for World War III. As far as the Pentagon is concerned, a military conflict with China and/or Russia is inevitable, and this prospect has become the driving force of its tactical and strategic planning.

    Three congressional hearings Tuesday demonstrated this reality. In the morning, the Senate Armed Services Committee held a lengthy hearing on cyberwarfare. In the afternoon, a subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee discussed the present size and deployment of the US fleet of aircraft carriers, while another subcommittee of the same panel discussed the modernization of US nuclear weapons…….

    None of the hearings discussed the broader implications of the US preparations for war, or what a major war between nuclear-armed powers would mean for the SURVIVAL OF THE HUMAN RACE, AND EVEN OF LIFE ON OUR PLANET. On the contrary, the hearings were examples of what might be called the routinization of World War III. A US war with China and/or Russia was taken as given, and the testimony of witnesses and questions from senators and representatives, Democrats and Republicans alike, concerned the best methods for prevailing in such a conflict…..

    Each of the hearings presumed a major US conflict with another great power (sometimes unnamed, sometimes explicitly designated as China or Russia) within a relatively short time frame, years rather than decades. The danger of terrorism, hyped incessantly for the purposes of stampeding public opinion, was downplayed and to some extent discounted. At one point in the Senate hearing on cyberwarfare, in response to a direct question from Democrat Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, the panel witnesses all declared that their greatest concern was nation-states, not terrorists…..

    No one challenged the assumption that “victory” in a world war between nuclear-armed powers is a meaningful concept. The discussion was entirely devoted to what technologies, assets and human resources were required for the US military to prevail……

    Contrary to the media portrayal of Washington as deeply divided between parties with intransigently opposed political outlooks, there was bipartisan agreement on this most fundamental of issues, the preparation of a new imperialist world war.

    The unanimity of the political representatives of big business by no means suggests that there are no obstacles in the path of this drive to war. Each of the hearings grappled, in different ways, with the profound crisis confronting American imperialism. This crisis has two major components: the declining economic power of the United States compared to its major rivals, and the internal contradictions of American society, with the deepening alienation of the working class and particularly the youth.


  • A small smattering of incidents, each with news story cited at JJFH (form the 4th):

    2015-11-04 – Man in his 40s ignites while lighting cig, severely burned, outside Walgreens in coastal New Castle (Delaware)

    2015-11-04 – Underground electrical explosion and fire rocks Gaslamp area in coastal San Diego (California)

    Quote: “Patrons at San Diego Water Grill reported hearing an explosion and then seeing smoke and flames coming from a manhole cover near the restaurant on J Street near Sixth Avenue about 7 p.m…”

    2015-11-04 – Underground electrical fire at 6:55 AM hits Dallas (Texas), third in two weeks, blackouts ensue

    2015-11-04 – Underground electrical fire breaks out on Priests Lane in Brentwood (Britain)

    2015-11-04 – Electrical substation erupts in flame in Garthamlock area in coastal Glasgow (Scotland)

    2015-11-04 – Landfill hit by fire in Belconnen (Australia)

    2015-11-04 – Three boats go up in flames, several more smoke-damaged, at boat storage facility in New Windsor (New York)

    2015-11-04 – Passenger train bursts into flame in Rawa Buntu (Indonesia)

    2015-11-04 – School bus bursts into flame on street in Darlington County (South Carolina)

    Note: This is the 186th school bus to burn in 2015 and the 705th bus to burn in 2015

    2015-11-04 – Two parked passenger buses and a car go up in flames in Howrah (India)

    2015-11-04 – Five adjacent row homes go up in flames in Columbia (Pennsylvania)

    2015-11-04 – Vacant garage burns at vacant home in Fairfield (California)

    2015-11-04 – Ecosystems dying off around coastal Long Island (New York)

    2015-11-04 – Woman killed when RV ignites just before 7 AM, near Roy (Washington)

    2015-11-04 – Person found dead in burning car just before midnight in Worcester (Massachusetts)

    2015-11-04 – Man, mid-20s, slumps over dead in work truck on street in LaSalle (Canada)

    2015-11-04 – Girl, 16, found dead at 6:30 AM in field near vehicle, near Mankato (Minnesota)

    2015-11-04 – Woman, 27, goes missing, found dead in Nuuksio National Park (Finland)

    2015-11-04 – A dozen children sickened by unknown cause at school in Calgary (Canada)

    2015-11-04 – Toxin from vast algae bloom off West Coast found in wildlife


  • Kiwi Kevin, I occasionally watch Zionist Sumner Redstone’s CBS propaganda evening news to punish myself about how bad the tangled spin can get.

    Shortly after I read you zero hedge info with the Congressional hearings & strong focus & direct quotes about now obscure Bradley Manning (traitor, etc), I realized that it was highly probable I was observing standard propaganda placement in action.

    Earlier, when CBS tonight aired a very major segment about Manning, I was very surprised because it appeared SO out of both place & time. The segment was very detailed including several photos of Manning etc.

    CBS never mentioned the Congressional Hearings discussing WW3.

    The elitist bastards at the helm are truly mad, & it could very well be happening.

  • The cancellation of the xl pipeline only makes Warren Buffet’s massive investment in railways all the more attractive.

    Canada’s Green Party stated that while against tar sand pipelines, they do support construction of new tar sand refineries in Alberta.


    Canada’s version of socialism is called the NDP (New Democratic Party) won their version of the state governorship of Alberta. They fucking love the tar sands period.

    Trudeau is the Canadian version of Obama except he’s white on outside as well.

    I got 95 up votes on reddit/collapse in one day, thanx to everyone, it’s what I live for in lieu of being able to do anything about anything.

    Somebody had a wet dream about mister walrus moustache over at reddit/collapse, but no mention of anything to do with cleaning the bathroom floor.

    How I Know We’re Totally Fucked from collapse

  • Carbon dioxide is still number one, methane number two, and N2O is number three according to NOAA:.


  • Paul Craig Roberts; THE WAR ON TERROR IS A HOAX

    It is a proven fact that the police/spy state rests on a foundation of lies and deceptions, and these lies and deceptions are now known. Even George W. Bush has admitted that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction.

    Thousands of independent experts consisting of physicists, nanochemists, structural engineers, high rise architects, fire fighters and first responders, and military and civilian pilots have provided the detailed explanations of September 11, 2001, that Washington failed to provide.

    Today not even an idiot believes the official explanation. The corrupt neoconservative Bush regime created a FALSE REALITY and sold it to a trusting population that was anxious to prove its patriotism.


    Millions (MILLIONS) of innocent Muslims are still maimed, millions of innocents are dead & buried, & entire innocent Muslim populations are destitute.

    Millions of desperate Muslim immigrants? – No shit!

    All this glaring mayhem & murder of millions because Zionist Israel bought the U.S. government on Milton Friedman’s open market.

    Israel put up big bucks, but they will never shut up or stop murdering Muslims until they cleanse & control the entire Middle East.

    Everything is for sale in Supernation – it’s a free market for bonehead Presidents, careerist lawyerfish senators, careerist lawyerfish representatives, & all manner of Ivy League lawyerfish careerists.

    Hilarious is poster lawyerfish careerist, adversarial bitch, & foul political witch – OWNED by Zionist billions & sordid political power.

    Zionist Israeli Neocons engineer the daily Merican military butchery of innocent Muslim men, women & children for Israeli state expansion,
    while Merican zombies are titillated by “Crime Scene Investigation” on television

    The real bloody crime scenes of death, devastation, misery, & disease in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria & the devastated Gaza Concentration Camp GO UNMENTIONED.

    Have you ever seen, even once, the 450 kilometer long & 30 foot high ISRAELI APARTHEID WALL?

    You will never see it, unless you want to see it & LOOK FOR IT.

    But decent observers are afraid to call out vicious hateful Zionist Israeli mayhem & murder of innocents, lest they be accused of the great bugaboo – horrid hateful anti-Semitism.

    What in the name of simple truth is the outright cold blooded MURDER of Muslim women & children.

    Is there no such simple descriptive word as ANTI-MUSLIMISM?


  • don’t worry Guy, my bathroom is cleaner than the pacific.

  • Gerald, everybody is busy killing everyone…do we really need to pick sides?

  • digixplor, Most emphatically, YES!

    Is global climate disruption true or false?

    Does it matter?

    If you don’t consider the cold blooded maiming & murder of millions of innocent Muslims, including children & babies, based on deliberate & consciously concocted lies & deceit by well-educated Ivy league lawyerfish on the take from Zionist money bags, your whole life is a foul & filthy shit house.

  • You’re either with us or you’re with the psychopaths!


  • Denise posted this classic limerick yesterday at the end of the preceding Billy Nye, the lying science-y guy.

    It’s too good to miss.

    Hope turns to a gas, when it finally expires,
    creating thick fog, spread by climate deniers-
    who work for Big Oil, and their slick, deadly game-
    shamelessly greenwashing more of the same,
    using lovable, “science-y” liars.

    Billy cannot be called a scientist because he lies, but he can play a “lovable science-y” one on television for Murdoch’s payola.

    By simple technical or vernacular definition, a scientist cannot lie or distort anything.

    If a scientist gets caught lying or deceiving, he posta get kicked right the hell out, by definition.

    Practicing honest scientists are the diametric opposite of slick obfuscating distorting lawyerfish.

    Lawyerfish/politicians power dress for career success, many scientists are often too busy toiling for simple truth to agonize over their appearance.

    Einstein routinely wore wrinkled sweatshirts.

    Nye’s prominent bow tie persona is identical to the bow tie persona of countless lawyerfish.

  • .
    Let’s give the proper credit to the fellow who actually wrote that song. I much prefer his version.

    Gary Jules – Mad World.

  • @GUY

    I thought for sure you would have shut this site down by now. Yeah, CC is solved, finished, over.
    There is a big meeting in Dec this year, the XL pipeline is “officially” shut down AND, my neighbor no longer leaves a porch light on all night.
    I get it, still reaping the fantastic monetary rewards from telling everyone they’re done.

  • Just watched the video, it’s funny as fuck.

    Looks to me like Guy lives for JD and ciggies.

    Recommend he toss a few magic mushrooms.

    Although an evening with Guy left science guy looking a bit ragged.

    Perhaps Guy was a little too rough on the beaver the night before.

    I really like the heavy-duty door to the root cellar.

  • sorry lwa… tears for fears did write ‘mad world’…and Gerald, I will defer to your knowledge about the murderers…I don’t like lawyer-fish anymore than you.

  • .
    sorry lwa… tears for fears did write ‘mad world’

    Ya, I suppose your right on that one. My apologies.

    Jules has the better vibe though. :(

  • In the short term here and now we must spread the word and stop the TTP. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_most_brazen_corporate_power_grab_in_american_history_20151106/

  • Or… perhaps it is time to start taking drugs? Careful though. The side effects can be a real bitch & you might get addicted: slowing down, quitting your job, seriously considering what the fuck you are doing with your life?!?

    Get it while you can!!!!

  • islandraider Says:
    November 6th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
    New mashup video featuring Guy, Paul, Natalia, etc.

    I finally had the opportunity this morning to watch this video. Thanks islandraider for posting it, and thanks also to Marc Haneburght for the production and editing.

    Also, I happened to be down at the market which is close to where I am currently staying, and I came across a newspaper headline at the local news agent. The headline is from the Canuckland national paper, “The Globe and Mail”
    Above the fold, it shows a smiling older couple and the captions read,
    Silly me, I thought that FINALLY the masses are coming to grips with NTHE and are happy to be in the moment, but alas, it was just an article about baby boomers. Oh well, it’s nice to dream every now and again. :-)

  • no apology necessary lwa…I’m wrong every once in awhile too.:}where does one find this thing called “nature”?

  • .
    paul marcott says:


    Silly me, I thought that FINALLY the masses are coming to grips with NTHE and are happy to be in the moment, but alas, it was just an article about baby boomers.

    Ah yes, those baby boomers. The generation of persons who economically consumed their own children in a manner echoing Jack Forbes’ description of how abstracted cannibalism is a main quality of the Wetiko mental illness?

    “Mom, Dad … there seem to be no jobs after university in this new globalized world you voted for, and also no possibility for me or any of my peers to purchase a home to live in either, like you and guys had in your generation’s era.”

    Oh shucks Henry, this new generation sure does do a lot of complaining doesn’t it? Say dear, the real estate value of our two cottages and three rental apartments just rose again, isn’t that swell?” How about you and I go to the coffee shop and celebrate by getting one of those grumpy University grads to make us a nice double latte?

    The ‘me’ generation has just retired … and they’re not going to let climate change take their juicy dreams of retirement away from them; they’ve earned it! It seems like about the perfect environment for forming denial about climate change. Baby boomers … hrrrmph.

    “Could you pass the salt? These children need more salt!”

    To me, economics always seemed like a perversion.

  • You can only get “nature” with a prescription from your doctor. Sadly, all the doctors at Catholic owned hospitals are prohibited from recommending it.

  • Gerald

    20 years ago I took some interest in the activities of the NZ parliament, and quickly realised it operated at the level of an intermediate school playground (12-year-old level).

    I now recognise that all government and bureaucracy consists of groups of people having meetings to:

    1. promote themselves in the eyes of the public

    2. discuss ways to loot the commons and pollute it

    3. discuss way to work rorts for themselves and their associates

    4. discuss ‘plans’ which are entirely disconnected from reality

    5. implement the agendas of global bankers and corporations

    Just how much of what is reported as news is actually happening or real seems to be anyone’s guess. Meanwhile, the masses are distracted with internationalised sport, celebrity gossip, phoney- baloney ‘reality’ shows, shopping, and in NZ’s case what design a new flag might be. All of it is totally irrelevant, of course.

    One supposedly true anecdote relating to ‘military intelligence’ concerned a junior officer who was commanded to compile background information for the African nation of Bali, where covert operations might soon be instigated. When the junior officer asked whether it might possibly be Mali, he was told to compile information for that place too, just in case.

  • lwa…don’t worry, the next reset should take care of most of the boomers too.

  • Here is Friday’s CBS evening propaganda/hit job on whistleblower Bradley Manning.


    Absolutely no mention, of course, about the diabolical CONTENT of what Bradley Manning’s so-called “crime” revealed.

    Ditto for patriot Edward Snowden. Everybody knows the name Snowden, but few have ever seen the CONTENT of Snowden’s so-called crimes against the murdering John Wayne clones of the Imperialist State of Merica.

    … and magically Snowden becomes THE heinous vicious criminal – not the fearless lying Mericans hell bent to joyously murder innocent unarmed Muslim non-combatants.

    A SMALL SAMPLE; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack

    Need anybody ask, “Why do they hate us?”

  • The first leader to launch even a small number of nukes would likely be causing his own death and the death of much of life on Earth. All of the current nuclear nations have the capability to do this, including Israel which has at least 300 nukes. For your reading enjoyment:



    With an estimated 17,000 nuclear weapons in the world, we have the power to exterminate humanity many times over. But it wouldn’t take a full-scale nuclear war to make Earth uninhabitable.

    Scientists modeled a war between India and Pakistan involving 100 Hiroshima-level bombs, each packing the equivalent of 15,000 tons of TNT — just a small fraction of the world’s current nuclear arsenal. Previous studies had estimated that global temperatures would recover after about a decade. However, this latest work projected that cooling would persist for more than 25 years, which is about as far into the future as the simulations went.

    “Most people would be surprised to know that even a very small regional nuclear war on the other side of the planet could disrupt global climate for at least a decade and wipe out the ozone layer for a decade,” said lead author Michael Mills, an atmospheric scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado.

    These findings “show that one could produce a global nuclear famine using just 100 of the smallest nuclear weapons,” Mills said. “There are about 17,000 nuclear weapons on the planet right now, most of which are much more powerful than the 100 we looked at in this study. This raises the questions of why so many of these weapons still exist, and whether they serve any purpose.”