The Role of a Social Critic

I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses.

~ Johannes Kepler

 

Beneath the song embedded below, I’ve posted an essay from October 2008. It’s presented verbatim, and is followed by the usual plethora of information. First, though, a few introductory words and the aforementioned song, which is as timeless as the writers I mention in this old essay.

B9K9 recently posted a comment that made me realize even the regular readers here fail to understand my self-appointed role in this society. S/he accused me of complaining, and of not being able to understand human nature. I readily admit to the latter, while also agreeing with Mark Twain’s ambiguity on the topic: “There is a great deal of human nature in people.”

Social criticism is not complaining for the sake of complaining. It goes much deeper than that. I’ve been engaged in the practice of social criticism since long before this blog came into being. There is a point to my written work beyond personal therapy.

I’ll assume B9K9’s comment was genuine, instead of an act of trolling. Based on the comment, it is clear s/he does not understand the role of a social critic. I suspect s/he is not alone. As I explained in October 2008, my role as a social critic is to speak truth to power, especially when the truth is inconvenient. It is a critically important and hugely undervalued role in this society. Following the herd is how we arrived at this undesirable point in history. The ignorant sheep keep their heads down and blinders on, grazing mindlessly as they continue blindly following the murderous few chosen to “lead.”

Artists and writers — and perhaps that’s redundant — have been criticizing society for thousands of years. In the most successful of cases, they’ve earned the enmity of the state, up to and including implementation of the death penalty (e.g., Socrates). I should be so lucky. My attempts to raise awareness pale in comparison.

 

The semester is steaming along, and steamrolling me. Wonderful discussions yesterday in two of my classes, both part of Poetry Inside/Out, contributed to the steamrollery and also inspired me to further consider the role of social critics and social criticism.

Pima Vocational High School students visited the University of Arizona Poetry Center, where they saw chapbooks resulting from the efforts of earlier classes and also wrote poetry for this year’s chapbook. The topic: poetry and politics. The conclusion of these other-side-of-the-tracks high-school students: “Politicians are fucking us over.” (It’s poetry: They get to use any words they want, for a change.)

The discussion in my honors class, which took an early turn toward economic collapse, was so riveting we did not take time to write during class. We’re reading Endgame in the class, and one of the honors students was in Zimbabwe last summer as the Zimbabwean economy crashed. His description of the human horrors, which included starvation and mass murder, was quite a lesson for those who believe we’ll behave when the grocery stores are empty. And also quite a lesson for those who believe the mainstream media are providing relevant world news.

Based on these, and many other experiences, I’m convinced our young people are far more honest than the mass of Americans. And I’m reminded yet again that the role of a social critic — to speak truth to power, especially when the truth is inconvenient — is critically important and hugely undervalued.

Then again, I might be biased.

I recently finished reading or re-reading books by four social critics: Jose Ortega y Gasset’s 1929 Revolt of the Masses (thanks to Frank for the recommendation on this blog; below, I quote from Anthony Kerrigan’s 1985 translation), Joseph Wood Krutch’s 1967 collection of essays, And Even If You Do (the sequel to his 1964 collection of essays, If You Don’t Mind My Saying So), Wendell Berry’s 2000 novel, Jayber Crow (thanks to Mike for the loan of the latter two books), and Derrick Jensen’s 2006 two-volume tome, Endgame (thanks to Derrick for trading his excellent book for three of mine).

Although each book is a product of its time, each of them also is timeless (pardon the cliche). Consider the words of the Spanish philosopher Ortega (1883-1955), bearing in mind they were written 80 years ago: “In the United States it is considered indecent to be different. The mass crushes everything different, everything outstanding, excellent, individual, select, and choice. Everybody who is not like everybody else, who does not think like everybody else, runs the risk of being eliminated” (p. 10).

Another snippet: “As one’s existence evolves, one comes to realize more and more that the majority of men — and of women — are incapable of any effort beyond the one strictly imposed on them by a reaction to external necessity. For that very reason the few persons we come to know in our experience who are capable of spontaneous and joyous effort stand out as isolated, monumental. Those few are the select men, the nobles, the ones who are active and not reactive, for whom life is perpetual tension, an incessant training. Training = askesis. And they are the ascetics” (p. 54). And, perhaps most relevant to our current predicament: “In short, the man who does not get lost in the confusion of living is the one who is ultimately proven clear-headed. Consider those around you and see how they wander through life like sleepwalkers amid their good or evil fortune, without any suspicion of what is happening to them …. they are not even trying to adjust to reality. Quite the contrary: the person’s ‘ideas’ are merely the individual’s blinders before reality, a way of avoiding the sight of his own life. For the truth is that life on the face of it is a chaos in which one finds oneself lost. The individual suspects as much, but is terrified to encourer this frightening reality face to face, and so attempts to conceal it by drawing a curtain of fantasy over it, behind which he can make believe everything is clear” (pp. 142-143). I reiterate: The Revolt of the Masses was published in 1929, long before most of us were born.

Krutch’s essays, published in a variety of outlets, are similarly prescient. With a single exception, which was published in 1931, the essays were published between 1953 and 1967. Krutch (1893-1970), who spent most of his life in Tucson, Arizona, had several distinguished careers, including drama critic, teacher, naturalists, and philosopher. His ecological world view is particularly compelling: “Cities got along without electricity for thousands of years. In many remote parts of the world, large areas are still so little dependent upon it that to cut it off would not create a major catastrophe or even a serious inconvenience. But suppose that bombs or sabotage were to deprive a major part of the United States of its technological lifeblood by making electricity unavailable, not only for a few hours, but for months. Goods could not be moved in; garbage could not be moved out. Before long we would be in a situation almost as impossible as that of the ivory-billed woodpecker deprived of his decaying trees” (p. 15, originally published in American Scholar in 1966 under the title, “Invention is the Mother of Necessity”). Krutch comments on suburbia in an essay titled, “The Sloburbs,” also published in American Scholar in the mid-1960s: “I wondered if ever before in history a prosperous people had consented to living in communities so devoid of every grace and dignity, so slum-like in everything except the money they represent. They are something new and almost uniquely unattractive – neither country nor village nor town nor city – just an agglomeration without plan, without any sense of unity or direction, as though even offices and shops were thought of as disposable, like nearly everything else in our civilization, and therefore not worth considering from any standpoint except the make-do of the moment” (p. 67). Krutch has much to say about education and educators, but for brevity I include a single pithy line: “I have met ‘educators’ who were not, and made no effort to be educated themselves” (p. 241, originally published in American Scholar in 1960 under the title, “Honor and Morality”). A page later, in the same essay, Krutch reveals he was often asked the question many people ask me: “‘If these are your convictions why don’t you go hang yourself?’ [These days, most people use “shoot” instead of “hang”] The answer was, and has continued to be through all such changes of opinion as I have undergone, that there is a private world of thought and endeavor which society has never been able to take away from me.” As my readers know, I could go on and on. But I include only one more line from Krutch’s wonderfully provocative collection of essays: “That man cannot conceive of anything that would make him perfectly happy and perfectly content is proved by the fact that his imagination has invented a variety of hells, all of them full of horror, but never a paradise in which he would want to dwell for eternity, or even for very long” (pp. 272-273, originally published in 1966 as “But I Wouldn’t Want to Live There” in Saturday Review).

Jayber Crow is the only fictional account on this list, but it reflects, through the life of an individual born in 1914 in middle America, Berry’s 1977 non-fiction classic, The Unsettling of America: Culture and Agriculture. Berry (1934- ) is a wise elder, a farmer and writer. I absolutely loved his 1977 book for its sweeping assessment and critique of culture in the United States, through the lens of agriculture. I absolutely hated his 2001 Life is a Miracle, an ill-informed, ludicrous, anti-science screed that critiqued, through the lens of spirituality, E.O. Wilson’s amazingly good book, Consilience. Thus, I was prejudiced against Jayber Crow before I picked it up. So much for my prejudice. Jayber Crow is superbly written, thoughtful, serious, and humorous. There are many gems but, reminiscent of Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle, the book cannot be reduced to short passages without significant loss. So I quote a long passage, which echoes The Unsettling of America (p. 183):

“Buying a tractor at that time was not unusual. A lot of people were doing in. The young men who had been in the war were used to motor-driven machinery. The government was teaching a new way of farming in night courses for the veterans. Tractors and other farm machines were all of a sudden available as never before, and farmhands were scarcer than before. And so we began a process of cause-and-effect that is hard to understand clearly, even looking back. Did the machines displace the people from the farms, or were the machines drawn onto the farms because the people were already leaving to take up wage work in factories and the building trades and such? Both, I think.”
“You couldn’t see, back then, that this process would build up and go ever faster, until finally it would ravel out the entire old fabric of family work and exchanges of work among neighbors. The new way of farming was a way of dependence, not on land and creatures and neighbors but on machines and fuel and chemicals of all sorts, bought things, and on the sellers of bought things — which made it finally a dependence on credit. The odd thing was, people just assumed that all the purchasing and borrowing would merely make life easier and better on all the little farms. Most people didn’t dream, then, that before long a lot of little bigger farmers would be competing with their neighbors (or with doctors from the city) for the available land. The time was going to come – it is clear enough now – when there would not be enough farmers left and the farms of Port William would be as dependent as the farms of California on the seasonal labor of migrant workers.”

“It is hard, too, to say that anybody was exactly blamable for this – or anybody in particular.”

Derrick Jensen (1960- ) is a powerful writer and liar who is, by his own admission, becoming more militant with every passing year. A victim of Crohn’s disease, Jensen will die shortly after civilization falls. He irrationally and passionately calls for the rapid demise of civilization in Endgame, by any means necessary. I include only a few lines here, in part because I reviewed the book previously. The masses who, “to maintain our way of living, we must tell lies to each other, and especially to ourselves” (p. 219). More to the point, Jensen explains, is our unwillingness to question the system in which we are immersed (p. 239):

“We do not question the existence of this death culture. We do not question the existence of an economic and social system that is working the world to death, that is starving it to death, that is imprisoning it, that is torturing it. We never question a culture that leads to these atrocities. We never question the logic that leads inevitably to clearcuts, murdered oceans, loss of topsoil, dammed rivers, poisoned aquifers.”

“And we certainly don’t act to bring it down.”

Jensen thinks we’re near the end of this way of life. That’s the good news. The bad news? For many people in the United States, and perhaps most of them, the world is effectively dead, and so are they (p. 285): “Welcome to the end of the world.” And, perhaps his most frequent line in Endgame: “What are you going to do about it?”

We need many, many more social critics. And we need to take many actions, large and small, to bring it all down. I teach, write, and pull survey stakes. I ask inconvenient questions, speak truth to power, and point out absurdities even when it hurts (me, that is … it always hurts those about whom I’m speaking).

So, then. What are you going to do?

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  • “Endo-heretic:

    A person trained and working within a field whose hypotheses markedly differ from the discipline’s doctrine. Endoheretics follow the conventional route of publishing evidence of their ‘heresy’ in refereed journals of their discipline.”

    Notable endoheretics ( for their leading roles against the nuclear industry ) Bertrand Russell and Linus Pauling would both be supporters of Guy McPherson’s views and social criticism I imagine.

    Without endoheretics societal generally accepted views would never change. It seems that this is sort of the intellectual climate we have now, very rigid except to that which is sanctioned as politically correct, where dissent and different opinions are largely suppressed.

  • **It is a shame when virtues like; chastity, honour, charity, persistence, mercy, kindness, bravery are not pillars of society anymore**

    Ahh, but they are – ask anyone and they’ll readily confess to being endowed with all the above.

    In a world of form over substance, even the lowliest asshole can become a pillar of society just by arranging words in the right order.


  • Thank you, thank you, thank you for all these great comments, all you sweet, loving and beloved doomerz!

    Just a little bit more Duende for the Beach of Doom:


  • Somebody said wow, look at the sunset. I looked and yelled o my god! I haven’t been the same since. I heard a loud snap inside my head and had a vision of myself hanging out of a hole in the middle of a green star as it was drifting away. Needless to say I never did that again. Once I drove onto the beach in Texas at night and got stuck. Next morning a guy in one of those big Coca Cola trucks stopped to help. He couldn’t get out into the soft sand so he said do you have a rope. I said wait a second and ran off up the beach and almost immediately found a 30 foot length of 3/8 inch steel cable with a 6 foot length of heavy chain and a hook on each end. Yes God is in Texas too. I met a lady who has loved me unconditionally for 40 years…should I go on? Oh, I used up 9 lives a long time ago and I’m still here! The spiritual stuff never stops! It’ a Wellspring! There’s 7 billion stories on the naked planet. This was one.


  • Oh YEAH, God is in Texas too! Love your enlightening story, Sir Kirk Hamilton.

    Holy shit, Man, if these kinda comments keep comin, I can finally shut up my trap completely!

    Namaste

    Muddy waters turned to wine:


  • I notice Daniel always gets the letters and numbers of B9’s name in the wrong order, it almost seems deliberately?

    I have sympathy with his reservations about Guy’s ‘love’ and ‘excellence’ stuff, having a strong suspicion that both of those abstract entities are as dependent as anything else is on surplus energy, (i.e. exploitation of some kind) for their expression.

    Furthermore, the sun may shine on the just and unjust alike, but for earthbound mortals, love, whether eros or agape or whatever, remains a zero sum game. When someone offers their beloved a gold ring set with precious stones, they are effectively saying: “This is a token of how many helots are toiling, more or less unrewarded, in gold mines and gem-polishing workshops far away, at my bidding. See what a great catch I am, that I can command so much labour on such frivolity.”

    Alternatively, try wooing your beloved with this line, and see how far you get: “I don’t wish to encourage exploitation or be responsible for silicosis amongst supply-side operatives who are doubtless uninsured and seen as expendable, so I made you this ring myself out of non-precious recycled cardboard.”

    On valentines day, the lady recieves from one suitor a number of freshly harvested red roses- “This is a token of how many blah blah blah…”, and from the other an apologetic note explaining the threats to biodiversity and sizeable carbon footprint inherent in the florist’s business model.

  • ‘What a way to go.’ (Anybody heard anything of Tim and Sally lately?)

    ‘Just one day after the DOJ unveiled its had indicted Chesapeake Founder and former CEO Aubrey McClendon on federal charges of conspiring to rig bids for oil and natural gas leases, moments ago the Oklahoma Police announced that he was found dead in a car accident, when while traveling in a 2013 Chevy Tahoe at a high rate of speed he slammed into an embankment in northeast Oklahoma City The car burst into flames before responders could pull McClendon’s body from the vehicle, Balderrama said.

    “He pretty much drove straight into the wall,”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-02/chesapeake-founder-aubrey-mcclendon-dies-car-crash-one-day-after-federal-indictment

  • Tragic! A self-driving car would have saved his life.

  • It requires a certain predisposition of the mind to think that finding a rope on a beach is evidence that there is a god. It reminds me of those who see the face of jesus in the patterns on their burnt toast.

  • 2 Mo Flow

    No, it wasn’t the same experience. I saw/felt the absolute void the first time I meditated. And it started not from sleep, but from consensus reality. Meditation is not just closing your eyes and relaxing–it can change your entire perspective. I don’t know what you experienced, I’ve never heard a description of anything like most of it before, except the NDE part. There are many types of such experiences, satori, for example, which I myself have never experienced. But I have seen enough to know that Bob s. and their ilk don’t know what the fuck their talking about. But it really doesn’t bother me. It doesn’t bother me what they think, and it doesn’t matter what you or I call ourselves.
    In some way everything is as it’s supposed to be, because it can’t be any other way at this moment.

    Part of the problem is that people don’t stop and think about what they are really doing. They are taking a bunch of nerve impulses and their brain is assembling these impulses into a model of what is “out there” providing input to their senses. Anything that was not of survival value to our ancestors was weeded out of the model by natural selection. The problem is that the model seems so real to us that we forget that it’s just a construct of our brain. But every once in a while something slips through that’s not normally a part of the evolved, survival-oriented model that is the normal “reality” that the brain produces. All you materialists are fooled by the realness of the model, and think that’s all there is to reality. But just remember–colors don’t exist, and the “world” is just an interpretation your brain makes.

    So, Mo, you’ve seen that true learning is full of contradictions, so what now? This darma world seems to be ending, and since very few have gotten off of the wheel of birth and rebirth here, we’re going to have to find a new place. I’ve heard there’s plenty, but I’m kind of used to this one. Then again, it’s probably time for a change.

    Best wishes

  • @Batman

    Unless that self-driving car had been programmed to do otherwise…

    http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

    Another one bites…

  • @ Mo Flo

    I did not mean that you yourself are a materialist. This means of communication is awkward, time-consuming, and inexact.

    Sincerely, Jake

  • Feed Jake:
    You have already been there, so this one’s mostly for your amusemest:

    Ashtavakra Gita Translated by Bart Marshall

  • Unhand me grey beard loon!

    Albatross

  • Jake ~

    “No, it wasn’t the same experience. I saw/felt the absolute void the first time I meditated.”

    thanks for clarifying that about the different experiences. what inspired you to start meditating? you said the void experience took you totally unprepared. since you saw it with your first meditation, it certainly seems like somehow you had gotten to the “right place, at the right time.” that “somehow” could be totally unknown of course in many ways.

    and of course feel free to completely ignore any of my questions. I’m curious for the sake of discussion and understanding, but all of this is personal.

    “And it started not from sleep, but from consensus reality.”

    I’ve had different experiences start from dreamless sleep, dream states during sleep, regular everyday waking consensus reality out of the blue, and meditation. it all works.

    “Meditation is not just closing your eyes and relaxing–it can change your entire perspective.”

    oh yeah. it can change everything. what humans have done in this regard is perhaps one billionth of the total potential that is available. probably not even that much. we are babes in the woods, yet.

    “I don’t know what you experienced, I’ve never heard a description of anything like most of it before, except the NDE part.”

    there was more about this (in my first link of those two additional links to Paul) that was only visible if you did a “Load more…” all the way on the Kuku comments. I don’t know if you saw that. (EDIT, based on what you are saying you probably did seen that one.) I also got into it a bit more relating to the Gita in the following thread, here.

    the meanings of those lines, such as “Gathering in my own nature” and “helpless in the force of my nature” are completely unmistakable (to me) exact descriptions of the experience. there are other places out there where similar ideas appear, but the Gita especially has the right ideas.

    “There are many types of such experiences, satori, for example, which I myself have never experienced.”

    yes, many. I’ve realized that this one particular experience of mine, the way it happened so clearly, twice, in depth and duration, and remembered in fine detail, was meant to happen that way because I was meant to share the description of it, with anyone who was interested.

    the experience itself made it crystal clear that everything and everyone in the universe (and everywhere) shares 100% in this Source/Krishna nature, and there is absolutely nothing special about the experience itself.

    my big takeaway is the same as Alan Watts, and countless others: “you are IT, and you can know this. and I personally found this knowledge transformative, perhaps you might, too.”

    and also exactly as Mart K said: “Knowing is different than believing.”

    “But I have seen enough to know that Bob s. and their ilk don’t know what the fuck their talking about. But it really doesn’t bother me. It doesn’t bother me what they think, and it doesn’t matter what you or I call ourselves.”

    true, ditto, yes, and yes.

    onwards.

    “In some way everything is as it’s supposed to be, because it can’t be any other way at this moment.”

    absolutely true. with the sole caveat that each of us in our being contributes to the being of all. within each being, choices can be made and actions can be taken that affects the being of all, however minor the effect may seem.

    “Part of the problem is that people don’t stop and think about what they are really doing. They are taking a bunch of nerve impulses and their brain is assembling these impulses into a model of what is “out there” providing input to their senses. Anything that was not of survival value to our ancestors was weeded out of the model by natural selection. The problem is that the model seems so real to us that we forget that it’s just a construct of our brain. But every once in a while something slips through that’s not normally a part of the evolved, survival-oriented model that is the normal “reality” that the brain produces. All you materialists are fooled by the realness of the model, and think that’s all there is to reality. But just remember–colors don’t exist, and the “world” is just an interpretation your brain makes.”

    tricky stuff, this. very tricky. :)

    So, Mo, you’ve seen that true learning is full of contradictions, so what now?

    what now? escape the contradiction in the only way possible, the exact same way the One escapes the contradiction: by living as fully as possible out of its True Nature.

    surrender.

    to your true nature.

    as much as you are able.

    Be IT, as much as you are able.

    and see what happens.

    because you are anyways, and what with death and destruction looming and everything, there’s no harm in letting go of your human limits now. the limits will be gone for real, soon enough.

    there are many practical ideas on how to do this. meditation is a great path. possibly other ideas.

    This darma world seems to be ending

    the seemingly most contradictory thing about the biggest possible ending is that it could also be the biggest possible beginning.

    and since very few have gotten off of the wheel of birth and rebirth here, we’re going to have to find a new place. I’ve heard there’s plenty, but I’m kind of used to this one. Then again, it’s probably time for a change.

    “wherever you go, there you are.” :) but yeah, millions.

    ~

    Jake, feel free to email me at moflow at outlook dot com if you want. we can discuss any of these things more.

  • It really seems that the shit is hitting the shit, and the heat is on.
    Tasmania had the hottest summer ever recorded this year and it is a stone throw from Antarctica.

    I just watched Beckwiths and Peter Wadims recent few videos.
    Question Guy? why is Beckwiths predictions for temp rise 100 years sooner than Wadhams, despite they come to the same conclusion as you do Regards N.T.E. is Wadhams more conservative or Beckwith more to the point.
    Are you able to comment on this?

  • 3 Ways to Recognize Spiritual Charlatans

    “Keep the company of those who seek the truth, and run from those who have found it.”
    – Vaclav Havel

    No person or spiritual system can heal you instantly, tell you what your purpose is, or tell you how to live your life…

    It’s incredibly easy to generate tired, clichéd or confusing language to appeal to people in spiritual crises and manipulate them.

    So be careful. Trust yourself. Do you really think you can erase or heal decades of emotional trauma in the blink of an eye? Does the person you are learning from seem more suited to be a game show host or a car salesman than a spiritual advisor?

    http://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/04/01/3-ways-recognize-spiritual-charlatans/

  • New Age Gurus: Dispensers of Nonsense

    The prescription for being a New Age guru is the following: 1) Create verbiage that appears profound but that is otherwise meaningless. People will attribute their inability to understand your sentences to their own failings rather than to your charlatanism; 2) Be charismatic and self-confident in your delivery, and perhaps deceive yourself as to the veracity of your words. In the immortal words of George Costanza, one of the central characters of the classic sitcom Seinfeld: “Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it. (link is external)

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201410/new-age-gurus-dispensers-nonsense

  • Today’s post summarizes the last decade or so in my life, and also looks forward. There is plenty of material beneath the poem, too. It’s all here.

  • Is this some of what Mark Austin is talking about?

    http://www.forbes-health-news.com/2016/02/24/stephen-hawking-predicts-this-pill-will-change-humanity/

    ————

    If Trump is your neighbor, this is what you can expect:

    Trump Questions (and thanks for the point you brought up, Paul Chefurka)

    – Does he now incorporate a critical mass of the US program, finally making for a single symbol to oppose or support?

    – Is it better to get out of his way and see where he goes?

    – Some on the Democrat “left” would love to see him nominated, assuming it would bring out Democrat voters, but is Trump better for collapse of IC than they?

    – Is Trump’s the only powerful voice for standing up to Israel?

    – And likewise for opposing Middle East regime change?

    Depending on the answers to these questions, I just might vote for Trump.


  • @Bob S.

    New Age Gurus: Dispensers of Nonsense

    Yes, I agree completely:

    New age gurus are funny dispensers of nonsense. Btw:

    Do you have ANY message beside the EASY, CHEAP message of DESPAIR? You know, cheap dispensers of pure despair aren’t any better than dispensers of new age nonsense, in fact, they are even worse :-)


  • @Mart K

    1335+692=2027

    Are you aware of the many predictions that have been made already? Countless:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events


  • The next Apocalypse will be between 2020 and 2037:

    Jeane Dixon claimed that Armageddon would take place in 2020 and Jesus will return to defeat the unholy Trinity of the Antichrist, Satan and the False prophet between 2020 and 2037. Dixon also previously predicted the world would end back on February 4, 1962.

    And after that Apocalypse, the next Apocalypse will be between 2018 and 2028:

    F. Kenton Beshore bases his prediction on the prior suggestion that Jesus would return in 1988, i.e., within one Biblical generation (40 years) of the founding of Israel in 1948. Beshore argues that the prediction was correct, but that the definition of a Biblical generation was incorrect and was actually 70–80 years, placing the Second Coming of Jesus between 2018 and 2028 and the Rapture by 2021 at the latest.

    And another Apocalypse in 2026:

    Members predict that the world will end in 2026, when an asteroid would collide with Earth in accordance with Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi’s predictions in The Religion of God. The chances are only 1 out of 300,000.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

    … and so forth.


  • The greek term “Apokalypse” is more about Revelation, Uncovering of hidden truth, than about the end of the world:

    An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis, from ἀπό and καλύπτω meaning “uncovering”), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation. In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse


  • On youtube, for instance, you can find predicitons of the Apocalypse for every single day of the year, it’s a funny pastime.


  • Man, this Bill Nye documentary is incredible and funny shit:

    The terminator Schwarzenegger and Billy Nye smoking big cigars and talking about Doctor McPhersons terminate year 2030 :-D

    Yeah, we’ll all gonna die- SOON, NO doubt here, that’s dead serious teaching for sure and somewhat funny at the same time. Now I’ll grab a bottle of Jim Beam, a big cigar and then back to my geetar.

  • ARTLEADS – I will write you privately very soon. You many be interested in an example of the specific Neuro evolution happening here at Max Planck.

    GENIUX was first developed at Harvard & MIT. Steven Hawking takes Geniux so has Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Anderson Cooper, Tom Brady and hundreds of other who can afford it at eight hundred per capsule daily.

    Genuix is quantum a leap in evolutionary thinking for those who must rapidly develop a massive change on Earth. Literally re formatting human existence. Preserving EARTH’s atmosphere is important for thousands of years of future evolution. Although most humans can not understand there are reasons why *other* species need this specific planet to heal after most humans are gone. It sounds too crazy for us to explain in scientific terms but elements of our ‘energy’ can transform into other forms and matter to continue a larger evolution process.

    GENUIX recently gave almost every world leader new insight into why NATURE itself has surges in development & expression. Insights for a sudden alteration. Extinction is evolution.

    Genuix is not the same as blood brain barrier Nano-particles that form a mesh around the Cerebral cortex. Humans ingest nano-particles in almost everything they consume from commercial sources. You even absorb nano-particles from soap & shampoo & clothing. Directing those nano-particles to form a communication net inside human brains is for another reason.

    At the apex of human control, The presentation at the DAVOS summit and meetings happening now each week have the most powerful influences on giving Gates, Obama, Buffett, Putin, Xi-Jinping and the collective leaders an new effective tool for quickly changing the path of Industrial civilization. For those who are here after the shift GENIUX and Neurogenesis are a small part of a completely new way of being truly sustainable. Dr. Guy McPhersons message is deeply imbedded in the Genuix insight. Guy will be remembered in ways he will never know.

    Humanity has a new way to go. With less people involved it will be easier to reduce nukes. Much too hard to explain on a planet with billions but after a return to millions, there will be a better chance for improved cooperation and much less greed.


  • One thing for sure:

    I am no prepper. I can’t even afford to prepp and I don’t want to. The food in my kitchen is never more than for 2, 3 days. That’s it. So, chances are high, that I will be among those, who will vanish fast. May Gates, Obama, Buffet, Trump ect live forever, if they want to.



  • Is Mother Nature a prepper? Is there any species on Earth, who is a prepper? Is the Universe a prepper? What should it prepare for?


  • The real wealth and beauty of the Universe is it’s sheer poverty in every aspect.


  • When you look at it dead seriously, then prepping consumes even more unnecessary stuff added to the normal consumer shit, hahaha. It makes the global shit even worse. Imagine, everyone on earth would be a prepper. How much stuff does a prepper hoard? Kilograms, tons? I don’t know.

    Dying is here and now, not in some imaginary, distant future.

  • Mark: are you delusional? Do you think it’s “extinction for everyone else but we precious few?” If you think there will be some people left you aren’t talking about extinction. Millions will turn to thousands which will become hundreds and finally there will be no one left – because the other species we rely on – INCLUDING PLANTS and SOIL will be dead or unable to support life. Believing that you or some small group can prevail isn’t being truthful when we’re talking about loss of habitat – no food, clean, drinkable water, no electricity, the air and land EVERYWHERE polluted beyond repair in any human lifetime, and most likely INCREASINGLY radioactive as well.

    If you’re bragging about some super prepping plan, any and all involved in it will only be prolonging their inevitable result (and may beg for death in the end).


  • Hahaha, and my venerable teacher keeps smiling silently :-)


  • Feed Jake ~

    here is a far better answer than mine to your “what now?” question from mike k on Kuku. the devil as always is in the details. I know for certain that it is possible for those details to be worked out, within, by and through All Beings, but as both Alan Watts and mike k say, and anyone who dives into this stuff knows, there is absolutely no guarantee ~ about anything.

    ~

    “Part and parcel of the tragic sense of life is that the clock is running. The time allotted to a given manifestation of a universe and the Life engendered within it is limited. The 2nd law of thermodynamics is one expression of this reality of the dance of life and death. And the more intelligent and powerful a particular manifestation becomes, the more demanding it is for it to wake up and realize the danger it’s increased powers pose to it’s continued viability. What we refer to as “spiritual paths” represent the possibility to give birth to a quantum leap in our evolution that is based upon among other things, renouncing some of the lower and dysfunctional uses of the powers stemming from our growing instrumental intelligence, so that a higher level of intelligence characterized by love and deep understanding can come forth.

    This move to the next level of intelligence may or may not happen; it is a difficult and uncertain transition, that requires sourcing higher pre-existing wisdom that requires letting go of what we think we know, and waiting with patience and humble openness for what we need to understand to be revealed within us. This is the real meaning and justification for meditation.

    For the sake of Life and All Beings, may we pass this crucial initiation – or die trying….”

  • Tom,

    Reading between the lines, I gather that if IC continues long enough, there will be some extreme tinkering with everything, including people. And Mark seems to be saying that the tools are mostly here already, and some may already be in fairly widespread, if unrecognized, use. It would seem that the best approach is to understand the direction and take action (successful or not) against it. Wouldn’t we prefer to remain human (and not “transhuman”) up to the end?

  • Bob S. ~

    sweetheart, I’ve suspected this for a while now, but you do indeed have the inside track on channeling the biggest collective DUH I have ever seen.

    “I didn’t know Alan Watts discovered the *truth* in the 60’s”

    “In The Book, philosopher Alan Watts provides us with a much-needed answer to the problem of personal identity, distilling and adapting the ancient Hindu philosophy of Vedanta to help us understand that the self is in fact the root and ground of the universe. In this mind-opening and revelatory work, Watts has crafted a primer on what it means to be human—and a manual of initiation into the central mystery of existence.”

    maybe you truly have never heard of The Perennial Philosophy?

    that seems entirely possible at this point.

    keep going, hon!

    I think I could become even more impressed by The Duh.

    it seems to truly have no limit in its noniscience.

    you determination to channel this Infinite Being at all costs is really quite a sacrifice on your part. I would have never imagined such a possibility.

  • Mo – wtf are you talking about – purple unicorns, infinite Being, Perennal Philosophy –

    Yes, I’m quite aware of many of the new age escalators to heaven – spiritual development for the masses of asses we call it.

    Hey, if we can get rich without working, grow smarter as we sleep, take a pill to be healthy — surly we can get to heaven by reading books and closing our eyes and wishing it so. When I was 4, I thought breakfast cereal could make me fly, but I’m older now.

    Good nite Gracie.

  • Bob ~

    my apologies. I can see my question was too confusing for The Duh.

    I will try again. keeping it more basic.

    dear Duh,

    you obviously haven’t the slightest clue what on Earth you are talking about.

    or even the bare beginnings of a clue as to the subject you are addressing.

    yet you are in the advanced position of creating many 3rd grade level cutting remarks and uncreative attempts at snarkiness on this subject, amidst your impressive displays of Infinite Ignorance.

    how is it that you can reconcile your massive thickness with such a firm desire to comment on this subject, in such a manner?

    is this the Supremest Level of Nonsentiet Unlightenment that we should all strive for?

    do you recommend that I should find the path towards ever greater non-trying at intelligence?

    I am lost deep in the shadows of your massive Duhgesty.

    please help.

    respectfully, your humble student,
    ~ mo


  • @Bob S.

    spiritual development for the masses of asses we call it.

    Hahaha, masses?! What masses?! Real spiritual developement has NEVER EVER been for the masses. Real spiritual developement (INDIVIDUATION) is and HAS to be a lonely job, it has always been a lonely job. The masses are much more interested in living the funny dreams of Empire. Look at Disneyland and you see, what I am talking about, THIS is the dream of the masses. Real spiritual developement has always been surpressed by Empire (you know that all too well, don’t you? 8-) ), because real free people are in fact disintegrative, corrosive to the system of Empire. I will show you what I mean in the main thread a little later :-)


  • @Doctor Guy McPherson or anyone else

    Please, someone told me, that 2/3 of the energy grid in the USA is based on CLEAN energy in 2016- and I just can’t believe it :-) He refered to that article here:

    No coal: Solar, wind, gas dominate new US generating capacity in 2016

    http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/no-coal-solar-wind-gas-dominate-new-us-generating-capacity-in-2016/

    Is that for REAL?! Thank you for any clarification!

  • Once I ate too much meat loaf and had a dream :-

    Every person we know, every person we have known, and every person we will come to know is asleep. Our thoughts, emotions and actions are those of a sleepwalker. We simply go on like pin balls bumping off this and that, being propelled in different directions, hypnotized by the bells dinging and lights flashing. Onwards toward the hole at the bottom driven by forces beyond our control.

    And the whole while we dream we are great men, we are doing great things, and we are learning the secrets that have spanned the ages from anonymous screwballs on the internet.


  • @Bob S.

    You are a rather pessimistic thinker and I highly appreciate that. Please, do you have any thoughts on that statement here?:

    2/3 of the energy grid in the USA is based on CLEAN energy in 2016

    Thanks in advance!


  • Anyway, I am an extreme pessimistic and critical thinker for myself. And I found out, that about 1/3 of the socalled “clean, renewable energy” of the US is based on methane gas, hahaha. Thanks anyway.

  • .

    Miles thought Cyndi was coo. He even put this tune on an album

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  • Yeah, I know that! Miles was one of the coolest guys on the planet ever!


  • Actually, Miles Davis was somewhat of a social critic himself. After a lifetime of being told, ‘hey nigger, plays us some of that jazz music you people play…’, he reached a point in his career where he refused to ever play be-bop jazz again for people, and literally wouldn’t. He publicly refused too. That led to his ‘Bitches Brew’ album, the first jazz and rock ‘fusion’ album ever, which led to the likes of Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock and all those jazz fusion heads. But it began because Miles refused to ever again play be-bop jazz, proclaiming that be-bop meant nigger, and so he withheld from ever playing be-bop again. He literally withheld his magical art from us as a harsh social statement on racism.

    He was one of the kings of be-bop, and he never performed it again, ever, and said so, and why.

    Go Miles!


  • Ok, I know “Bitches Brew” and the development of Fusion (I like it), but I didn’t know that Miles Davis refused to play be-bop ever again because of fuckin, stupid, sick racism. Yeah, he was one of the kings of be-bop for sure, playing with Charly “Bird” Parker and Dizzy Gilespie in “Birdland”. Btw, Lois Armstrong (he appears to me a little bit like an “Uncle Tom”, but he was a musical genius as well) for instance didn’t ever understand be-bop as well, it was too far ahead for conventional people at that time:



  • Be-bop was highly political stuff, bringing an end to the shiny, commercial swing era. The incredible LeRoi Jones and Dizzy Gilespie in their own words:



  • Charlie Parker was a Blues guy from head to toe. He was the one, who brought the real Blues back to Jazz, through Be-Bop. I remember someone saying, that “Be-Bop” is the sound, that the tension and release of the flatened fifth makes. The flatened fifth, that’s Be-Bop and that’s Blues. The black people conquered modern music with the flatened fifth. There’d be no modern music without the real Revolution of the Blues, the flatened fifth, Diabolus in Musica, hahaha 3:-)


  • The flattened fifth is the combined joy and pain of DUENDE (“One good thing about music, when it hits you fell no pain. So hit me with music…”- Marley), yeah, you can find the same flattened fifth, Diabolus in Musica, in gypsy flamenco for example. And in some arabic music as well.


  • In one sentence:

    The flattened fifth, Duende is the marriage of joy and pain, the marriage of heaven and hell.

  • .

    Ya, doesn’t it just figure that those European dudes would figure out which one was the funnest note and ban it?

    You will not have fun, dammit, we’ll see to that!

    Although, Bach and Mozart and all those classical dudes fooled around with these devices too, actually, they just did it in more subtle ways. They certainly didn’t bend around it in quarter and eighth tones like the African’s did though. And you’re right, starting from old plantation spirituals, up through the twenties dixieland thang, and on into 30’s and 40’s swing, that way of using the flat five is the basis of all rock ‘n roll music today, even country music.

    Tension and release, and that darned flatted fifth. These musicians were the Mozarts and Bachs and Beethovens of our time. Check out Keith Jarrett’s Trio sometime (if you can tune out his crazy moaning that he always does, lol.) And this is a concept for improvising as you go too, not just for composition. What a conceptual leap in music it was.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydian_Chromatic_Concept_of_Tonal_Organization

    “The Lydian Chromatic Concept of Tonal Organization is a 1953 jazz music theory book written by George Russell. The book is the founding text of the Lydian Chromatic Concept (LCC), or Lydian Chromatic Theory (LCT). Russell’s work postulates that all music is based on the tonal gravity of the Lydian mode.” “Russell believed that dominant function was the driving force behind all harmonic motion.” “Russell posited that tonal gravity emanates from the first seven tones of the Lydian mode. As the player ventures further from the Lydian tonic however (and further up the circle of fifths), the tonal gravity shifts … etc, etc, etc.”

    Anyway, ya, Jazz was the shit … until we got all stupider about things again.

    Thelonius Monk? Genius. John Coltrane? Genius. Too many more to mention. Genius.

    :)

  • Duende is a higher state of consciousness, a higher state of emotion. Charly Parker had Duende en masse, Miles had it, Justin Bieber doesn’t have it, Paco de Lucia had it, Johnny Winter had it, Rory Gallagher had it, Eric Clapton doesn’t have it.



  • Yeah, I know, Richard Wagner played a lot with the flattened fifth as well for instance… but the Blues plays with it like hell, like no other music on the planet (well, except for gypsy Flamenco, haha)…

    Anyway, ya, Jazz was the shit … until we got all stupider about things again.

    Thelonius Monk? Genius. John Coltrane? Genius. Too many more to mention. Genius.

    Exactly.


  • Russell believed that dominant function was the driving force behind all harmonic motion

    YES, it is! It is BEHIND all musical motion, behind the scenes, it’s the circle/chain of the falling dominant fifths:

    C7/5b -> F7/5b -> Bb7/5b -> Eb7/5b and so on…

    But the Blues and the Jazz and gypsy Flamenco and some other styles (like some arabic styles ect) play with it OPENLY and completely freely. Wagner for instance would have been extremely surprised, if he’d ever had the chance to listen to the Blues.


  • That’s the final formula to me:

    C7/5b = Gb7/5b

    EXTREME AMBIGUITY, that’s the real Nature of the flattened fifht 8-)


  • The final goal is, to play with all twelve semitones completely freely, always:


  • The final goal is, to play with all twelve halftones completely free, always, well, if you want to and the song wants it:



  • @mo, sorry, something went wrong, double post^^


  • Learn all the rules dead serious- and then get rid of them, hahaha, that’s Duende, the flattened fifth, Diabolus in Musica. And yes, LWA, you are fuckin right:

    For the sheer FUN of it :-D

  • .

    If you want to use all twelve tones then you need to look closely at Thelonius Monk. That was his trip. This song of his I’ll link uses all twelve tones in the head melody, for example. That was his desire too, to play fluidly with all twelve where harmonically appropriate for expectation and response. Check him out. In this song, all twelve tones were used in the head.

    Straight No Chaser.

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    And honestly, what’s always fascinated me about the flat five is how it opens a tonal portal that can be bent toward and away from, and all those now detuned and off pitch tones all still fall into a sweet pocket anchored to the tonal center. You can’t do that on other notes and get away with it, it doesn’t work. That’s what the voices, then the wind instruments, and eventually now guitars opened up to us during the be-bop into modern rock ‘n roll evolution. That’s why guitar has dominated rock music all these years, because it can bend around all over that flat five sound in all sorts of ways. It really does mesmerize people.

    “weeeeeeeeoowwwwweeeeeeowwwwwwaaaaaaaauuuuuuuwwwaaaaaaaeeeeeeeoooooeeee”

    Enter Jimmy Page and Keith Richards and David Gilmour.

    From a metaphysical perspective, I can totally see why this musical ‘effect’ was banned in Europe. Because someone would have found that effect with an organ as well back then just like deep purple did, real loud and trippy like …and I’m sure that’s why they removed the panty remover note back in the day for sure.

    It can lead to drug ingestion and even to pregnancy, lol.

    Mainly it can turn you on and emancipate you. What a sin.

    That old flat five, ’tis magic you know … duende.

    Actually it winds up being physics I think. But not the kind they teach you about at school, hahaha.

    Buwahahahaha. See? Jazz is crazy shit. It is the shit. Or was, for awhile anyway. It gave us what it gave us.

    Rock guitarists from all genres have taken up the torch ever since, at least sort of, in a way, sometimes.

    The sound is just in our ears now, and they ain’t puttin’ that genie back in the bottle before extinction.

    And no, I follow no rules in my music anymore.


  • @mike k

    Paul C., Henry, Mo, Nemesis and others – Isn’t it unexpected when your worldview collapses, and you are sitting there in the ashes, that sometimes you get glimpses of a strange new light shining through everything that is yet somehow familiar….?

    Absolutely. To me, it was completely, totally unexpected, it HIT me like a hammer out of nowhere when I was 17 years old. I wasn’t interested in “Spirituality”, in “Religion” and all that, no the slightest bit. I was just a teenager like everyone else. Until that day, that changed my life forever.

  • TOM – yes totally delusional and probably a bit demented too. So are 99% of humans. I’m just having fun sharing actual facts of stuff in development, because we are still here and doing crazy shit till it’s over. Till we get hit by Methane spike or Meatball farts, Gates and Hawking and many of us are going to pop Geniux pills and play gods and dogs. TOM have fun with us if you like.

    BLUE BRAIN digital tissue. V2K. BTO. Dr. Justin Sanchez Neorotechnology. DARPA nanobots are already absorbing into the brains of most carbon based lifeforms via blood-brain barrier particles.

    TOM – when you look at our actual DAVOS presentations, you can hope the elite will go first by 5G microwave mistake…or last in Greek tragedy of not being prepped to live without infused Evian water.

    Obviously the only thing that might matter with any of these massive rapid technological leaps is a way to reduce radiation for the future of other species. OTHER SPECIES. Dirt poor or Elite. I don’t care how we change human minds about rapid decommissioning. That’s all that truly matters in the scope of human folly. FUCKING clean up the radiation on your way out. THANKS!


  • @LWA

    Just great, to talk to someone like you about Music, man. I highly appreciate all your musical wisdom.

    Yes, yes^^, Thelonoius Monk! He played the most akward piano style ever. He was a Giant, even Jazz and B-Bop just seems to small for his giant stature.

    I second everything you said. Everything.

    The sound is just in our ears now, and they ain’t puttin’ that genie back in the bottle before extinction.

    Hahaha, THAT Spirit never ever went into the bottle actually (not even in fuckin Europe), just listen to indian Ragas for instance (arabic styles also):



  • Addendum:

    The historical, cultural and genetic roots of the Gypsies (Duende) are in India.

  • True, Nemesis, true.

    I an curious about this day at 17.

    Would you care yo share more?


  • @LWA

    About that sharing:

    It is so hard to share it. I try it all my life. There was only one person in my life, to whom that Flame jumped over, to whom I could share it. He broke down in tears of Joy and Astonishment. That was one of my brothers, who died some decades ago. Let me make it as short as possible:

    I was alone, it was in the evening, I was sitting in my bed, the moon shone through the open window into my tiny room. It was like a HAMMER of light and FIRE out of nowhere, burning down from my head to my toes, through my whole body, BURNING Joy and TOTAL ASTONISHMENT. I was SHOCKED and completely PARALYSED, I couldn’t move, I couldn’t talk, I couldn’t think, I couldn’t do anything anymore for about 2 or 3 minutes.

    That’s it.

  • Nemesis & LWA,

    Thanks for Cyndi & Miles.
    I had no idea Miles had covered any of Cyndi’s songs.
    The Miles clip appeared to be from a Japanese broadcast.

    An oldie…maybe the Grammy awards show around 1983.

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    Not recent, but in the current century…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vhoSTP17Y
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    In one of the multiverses, Cyndi Lauper & Nina Hagen joined the Grateful Dead in about 1987…and Garcia is an old man who finally got himself in shape lest he miss any of tomorrow’s vocal pyrotechnics.


  • Thank you so much, infanttyrone! Yeah, crazy, loving Nina Hagen, “Alles so schön bunt hier!… Hier rrrriechts so gut, Du alter Kifferrrr!”… hahaha, Nina Hagen!

    About that sharing one more time:

    Yesterday I thought, maybe Mink DeVille comes close to it in some sense:



  • My whole life is nothing compared to those 2 or 3 minutes. And I I know:

    One day I will return back to that Fire, to my Home, were I came from, where we all came from.

  • .

    Thanks for sharing that Nemesis, I appreciate it. Wow, hey?

    Then you picked up that pick of destiny and never looked back.

    Very nice. :)

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    @infanttyrone

    “In one of the multiverses, Cyndi Lauper & Nina Hagen joined the Grateful Dead in about 1987…and Garcia is an old man who finally got himself in shape lest he miss any of tomorrow’s vocal pyrotechnics.”

    I will have to try and dial in that multiverse sometime. Sounds wonderful. Thanks for the Cyndi clips. :)

    Mile shoulda covered this too.
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  • Thinking of Satish, Sabine, Lidia…as we each move on:
    We are talking only to ourselves. We are not talking to the rivers, we are not listening to the wind and stars. We have broken the great conversation. By breaking that conversation we have shattered the universe. All the disasters that are happening now are a consequence of that spiritual “autism.”

    Any worldview that makes sense, I think now, must orbit around compassion. Sitting with the forest, sitting with other beings, sitting with other people until you are beyond your mere self and can begin to contemplate theirs, seems to me to be the still point of the turning world. Putting it into practice is the hardest work—for me, at least. I am a novice, and compassion does not come naturally to me.

    But while I can see the danger in seeking to control the earth, to define and lock down a version of “nature” that suits us, to freeze time, to put humans at the heart of things, I can see the danger also inherent in too much sitting. While you sit, the world may be burning around you. While you sit, others may be active, and their form of action may result in destruction and abuse. There is a danger in assuming we know what the earth needs from us. But there is a danger in ceding ground to the powers that run the system that grinds this world to dust in the name of money.

    Missing OLD GROWTH FOREST. Hug a tree xox


  • Why does man make such a fuss about Death? I will embrace Death like coming home to my very own place, within. Do the animals make any fuss about Death? Does the Sun make any fuss, when it vanishes behind the horizon? Oh, great, proud, beloved loneliness, I jealously watch over my inner loneliness. The dead are much more familiar to me, than the living.

  • @Nemesis I did consider many others. The Mayan calendar I found most intriguing. That because the current Gregorian calendar and Julian calendars are no where near to that. Note; about the dates I mentioned, during the middle ages they made some alterations to year counts so. The lunar cycles are so precise by the Mayan people that it has been only last century that western society was able to match it. Often I think of the Mayan culture as derived from Cain. There is evidence that fist settlers in South America came by the Pacific Ocean. If you think of it; that calendar has a guy sticking his tongue out, like a dog who is too warm. It amazed me very much. Also their salvation in the waters was quite startling. If you go back in the ice core data, professor Thompson, you can see the natural drought cycles for that region and I assume they were fascinated by what their culture experienced and wished to “understand” why everything went bust. The natural return of that is actually now & causes a doubling effect.

    Fire is often referred to as chi, Biblically it’s the stirring of one’s inner spirit as in activation. As with the sumo wrestling match the referee cleans the fighting pit he does so prior to the clash. Just ask any martial artist and will explain that it is of self.

    Then there is combined consciousness often understood by agreement of belief, transferable as many will either experience in some gathering. What differs is that of future, a interlinked consciousness in time, whether the connection is by matter or distortions in space/time I do not know. All I know that there are more than 1. That has all to do with the edification of self or of religious groupings. Self is not intended but if so would never condemn nor set future as destined (because most of us don’t know what actually is good or evil) yet for ages or peoples it always comes with corrective suggestions therefore leaving it to people and their spiritual peers, the secondary important marker is that only time will unlock it’s meaning so that wicked men can’t use words to draw power to themselves nor that people will chase a path bringing on self fulfillment. So always good to test the source & these parameters.

  • “But while I can see the danger in seeking to control the earth, to define and lock down a version of “nature” that suits us, to freeze time, to put humans at the heart of things, I can see the danger also inherent in too much sitting. While you sit, the world may be burning around you. While you sit, others may be active, and their form of action may result in destruction and abuse. There is a danger in assuming we know what the earth needs from us. But there is a danger in ceding ground to the powers that run the system that grinds this world to dust in the name of money.”

    Great points to consider, Mark. I don’t believe in too much sitting either. But it’s not like I can claim to know anything. Like most sentient beings, I want to feel OK (although I most often don’t give myself the chance!)
    Thoughts keep swirling around, and I pretty much don’t know which end is up.

    What feels good to me is doing things in as natural and organic a way as possible. The engineering of the planet and the mind would not be my solutions. The fact is, however, that said engineering has been going on for a long time, and now we see the turning of the screw which you describe. I’m not even clear to what extent I’m a product or not of engineering. I don’t have some objective platform to stand on so as to pronounce about my situation. It’s what it is.

    The earth (assuming that it’s a kind of virtual reality play in which we are all players) is now way way too full and congested. I see the need to simplify. I am not objective enough to say that I welcome the demise of humans so that animals can survive. But the play I’m in has a script which says that animals should be considered like everything else. That is why the second of my three-point prescription for structure put African megafauna in second place. In third place is nuclear pollution.

    But in first place is the western woman. And I reduce that to one single issue (for now): Restoring and securing abortion rights. I would perceive this to get me down to #3 (nuclear pollution) through a complex domino effect. No one appears to be listening to what I say, but I say it anyway, FWIW.

    If you don’t create an alternative, you can’t expect that that it will turn up by itself and challenge (or even synchronize with) the engineering you describe. For today, my something else is abortion rights. No better time to propose it than during this US election cycle.

    If you’re ever coming to these parts, please let me know! :-)

  • mike k ~

    “Sometimes I think that if a person is not worried, they are fast asleep, not really conscious. Someone asked Gurdjieff what the purpose of life on Earth was? He answered that the Earth is a giant pain factory. Was he that far off? I know something about the Love that moves the stars, but what about the other stuff? Do we bail out on it, saying it’s not real?”

    if you had a really difficult brain tumor, mike, and you had access to the most educated, trained and successful surgeon on the planet to operate on your tumor and heal you, during the operation would you want your surgeon and his staff worrying?

    or would you want them focused on dispassionately, calmly and with infinite care and skill actually removing your tumor, without damaging your brain?

    ~

    we each have access to this expert surgeon within our own beings. this surgeon is called our True Nature, which is our mainline connection to the One, and its infinite intelligence, awareness, skill, compassion, and healing power.

    life is about healing. ego is about punishment. only one of these is Real.

  • “Fear and pain have dominated our experience on Earth over the epochs simply because we have allowed human animal nature to guide our lives largely according to survival instincts. But that need not continue to be the case. Each of us can, and must, evolve within our dual human/soul natures. Evolution of both beings will transport mankind from predominantly animal fear-based thoughts and behaviors, to a more peaceful existence enlightened by our innate unconditional love and natural bliss—a serene Earthly existence revealed to me to be the Third Epoch. To get there, we must collectively swing the pendulum back from the current version of man dominated by animal drives, the lowest form of existence for this blended being, to one capable of living up to the Light Being potential within. The tools are very simple and well within our grasp. In fact, they have been inside us all along. We need only bring ourselves to an awareness of the duality of our existence and learn to love and appreciate both beings, body and soul. That awareness and love will flow through us naturally once we open ourselves up to our true Light Being nature.”

    Danison, Nanci L. (2007-10-01). Backwards: Returning to Our Source for Answers (Backwards Books)

  • “Evolution of both beings will transport mankind from predominantly animal fear-based thoughts and behaviors, to a more peaceful existence enlightened by our innate unconditional love and natural bliss—a serene Earthly existence revealed to me to be the Third Epoch. ”

    I find that there are practical things to do–permaculture, meditation, solar panels–that don’t conflict with the fear culture. But when it comes to realpolitik international relations–America vs Russia, Israel vs Palestine, Suni vs Shiite–there is the existential fear that if you give an inch the other side will subjugate you. There seems to be no getting away from it. We might have left well enough alone, but we had to go stir up the hornet’s nest for the sake of empire. So we’re all scrambling for our lives, hitting out at the hornets or trying to poison them. When it gets this bad, I don’t know how we change the pattern.

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    @artleads

    “there is the existential fear that if you give an inch the other side will subjugate you.”

    I agree artleads, a big ego stumbling block for sure. When I dove into the Taoism I had the perfect example to learn with, my hostile neighbors. I swore that if I didn’t stand vigilant that they would have their way with me. The Tao taught me how no, every act of resisting them just exacerbated the situation, and the only way out was surrender and disengagement. They grinned and came at me hard when I withdrew, and that’s when the flow of energy flipped and miracles happened. Force is always just met with more force. When I removed their target and stopped reacting to them, for some inexplicable taoistic reason they literally just deflated and lost their power entirely.

    So we’re all scrambling for our lives, hitting out at the hornets or trying to poison them. When it gets this bad, I don’t know how we change the pattern.

    I agree, the game works best when everyone plays along. One bad apple can spoil a whole lot. However, surrender would be the only option. All Palestine wants in the end is to not be harassed. All the middle east wants is to not be meddles with. I wonder how withdrawal would be met? Surrender?

    And if you or I get killed as things are getting ironed out, who cares? get another life. They’re a dime a dozen. Oh right, that’s the piece of the puzzle that people are missing. Makes a big difference, doesn’t it?

    it’s like climate change. Leave it and quit making the problem worse? or engineer the shit out of things with our extremely lowly perspectives as humans?

    I’d say let it alone and just try to stop making it worse. But micromanage it? The Tao has a lot to say regarding trying to micromanage things.

    Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream.

    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

    People worry about what if’s way too much in my opinion. It’s how we lost all our free time to make music and run with the trees.

    How do we change the pattern? Losing the fears about our existence works wonders.

    Empire stopping from cock blocking the people who get it would be another idea. But empire employs some pretty low vibration, solid people.

    Your right artleads, it’s quite the conundrum. Maybe near extinction is just what the Doctor ordered. Surrender maybe, let it be what it wants to be maybe. Smell the roses, not the manure. Stop feeding it energy. Walk off the job and hand out sandwiches instead. I don’t know. Do you really think the middle east is ready to invade if we just stand down? What about Russia? How about if we stop using our military to enforce a bogus petro dollar? Or quit polluting South America with our greedy companies? I don’t see a very big military down there poised and ready to retaliate just because we stopped being dicks. If you work for polluting dicks, just walk off the job.

    I think natural population reduction might assist us greatly in this regard over the coming decades. It would be best if humans didn’t interfere in this process. Human’s are a pittance compared to nature, they should have figured out how to butt out long ago. Maybe they’ll learn that now.

    But you’re right … it’s just a pattern. A bad habit, literally.

  • Thanks for this most understanding post, LWA. I totally get what you say about non-resistance and tao. I even thought about it re Donald Trump. Get out of his way if you can. Just let him roam free with no resistance. There is absolutely no way to combat him (if one even wanted to) by force. He will win.

    But everything fits together (in a real, practical systems sense). And somewhat to speak to non resistance–there is the issue of strategy. Isn’t it a form of non-resistance to find the absolutely most effective leverage point for effecting change while minimizing an opponent’s force?

    I don’t know if you’ve seen my frequent ramblings about white women, the richest, most privileged women in the world. Yet profoundly, if subtly, subjugated. I’ve never seen anybody recommend peeling off “white women” from “white people.” But wouldn’t that (were it possible to do) suddenly reduce the dominant imperial force by half? Why has no one thought of that? Isn’t gender a far more effective means than race for resistance? But it sounds like I’m trying to convert you, not an attractive place to be. :-) I won’t persist.

    Long story short, my form of non-resistance is to use the opportunities life puts right under our noses. Here it is: the gigantic theatre known as the US presidential elections. Simultaneously, a pending abortion ruling by Supreme Court. Simultaneously, the opportunity to appoint another woman to the court, further balancing the gender distribution. Simultaneously, a theatrical and entertaining slate of Repubs who swear to banish abortion. The list of simultaneous-es gets to be quite long. To me, strategy centers on abortion rights. But as I say, I know I’m proselytizing mightily, for which I apologize…

    I also agree that one cannot control how large-scale events turn out. But I believe that “no control” also depends on one’s personal actions.

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    @artleads

    “Isn’t it a form of non-resistance to find the absolutely most effective leverage point for effecting change while minimizing an opponent’s force? “

    That’s exactly an aspect of it. At first Taoism seems like a totally lame exercise in just passively letting things slide and relinquishing all control, when it actually is just a different way of going about getting the results you want. It’s a lot about finding out how things want to flow naturally, and adjusting your strategy to that path rather than just barging in with plans and enforcing your will like empire does (which is probably why empire is being so thoroughly attacked now by nature, it’s not in harmony with it.) And minimizing your opponents force is what it can often be about, sometimes by simply stepping to the side so that they run into a light pole like in a bugs bunny episode. Actually, using their own misapplied force against them is a huge one. Sometimes you don’t even need to do much, just add one more feather maybe.

    “I’ve never seen anybody recommend peeling off “white women” from “white people.””

    I wonder if that’s sort of the result the new age movement is achieving in North America to a certain degree. From rich and married, to disillusioned and unhappy, to herbal tea and meditation nights for earth healing. New age movement. At least those white women aren’t on quite the same track that they were before they went to that first yoga night, not entirely anyway. Maybe that’s already part of natures plan for arresting the patriarchy. It generally isn’t men getting involved in that movement you know, it’s mostly disillusioned rich white women. Every conversion is a win in a small way. You may be onto something that’s already happening naturally. I just never looked at it the way you’ve expressed it here. Fascinating insight.

    “my form of non-resistance is to use the opportunities life puts right under our noses.”

    Well, ya, that’s Taoism. It’s not about giving up, it’s actually about identifying what already wants to happen and just getting on the side of that flow, instead of wanting things that are in opposition to that flow. In a battle, it’s about peeling the orange by simply just being smarter than the orange. If the orange is smarter than you, then you won’t peel it. You have to be smarter than the orange, that’s Taoism.

    Taoism is just about getting there in a different way. It isn’t giving up. Although, now it sounds like I’m trying to sell books on the Tao, when really I’m more just trying to speak to a universal truth. When building something that incorporates water, it wouldn’t be very smart to build it with the assumption water is going to fall up, and yet that’s almost what we’ve done by applying only our sheer human hubris of domination to everything we’ve tried to do as a species here on the planet. But I digress.

    I agree it makes no sense to limit choices about abortion in an overpopulated world (or ever, frankly.) It probably wouldn’t hurt to have another woman on the supreme court too, though she may wind up being one of those pinstripe suit manly women. But still, it would be a woman. I agree with you artleads. I’m not advocating giving up or throwing in the towel. I’m more advocating for going about getting results in a different way from what we’ve been exposed to through the aggressive patriarchy, who only knows anymore how to peel the orange by running it over with a dump truck, and then wondering why they can’t eat it after, but oh well, there isn’t a peel there anymore so I guess that’s success.

    And hey, you can try and convert me too, I don’t mind. Don’t worry, I’ve set aside ripping people’s heads off and eating them for the time being. It wasn’t working for me, so I’ve changed and adapted. This is LWA version 7.4.2 now. You are safe. You actually always were safe. :)

    Do whatever you can strategize to do artleads. I just don’t advise employing methods that we’ve learned won’t work is all, that was my main point. Find the flow and then stoke THAT fire, rather than trying to get it going with water and dirt. Find the right lever and pull it and the Tao will often do the rest for you. The dominant women thing might be a wonderful idea. Make it so number one.

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  • @LWA

    From rich and married, to disillusioned and unhappy, to herbal tea and meditation nights for earth healing. New age movement.

    Yoh, new ape movement, harr harr.

    Well, ya, that’s Taoism. It’s not about giving up, it’s actually about identifying what already wants to happen and just getting on the side of that flow, instead of wanting things that are in opposition to that flow. In a battle, it’s about peeling the orange by simply just being smarter than the orange. If the orange is smarter than you, then you won’t peel it. You have to be smarter than the orange, that’s Taoism…

    I’m more advocating for going about getting results in a different way from what we’ve been exposed to through the aggressive patriarchy, who only knows anymore how to peel the orange by running it over with a dump truck, and then wondering why they can’t eat it after, but oh well, there isn’t a peel there anymore so I guess that’s success.

    Hahaha, great analysis of the Empire ape mentallity! Thanks for the laughs!

    @Mart K

    I second everything, you said, I am just not into numbers.

  • Thanks so much, LWA. You have expanded my understanding as well. I’m also very very much into taoism; I just don’t know any facts or names and so can’t talk about it.

    I’m not so much seeing women as dominant, as transforming the very concept of dominance moreso. The women of the dominant culture would form a bridge of some sort to everyone else. I had actually conceived of the western woman taking the side of everything that wasn’t white male patriarchal culture, creating a new paradigm for global culture based on conservative and old fashioned know how, but with sparing touches from the west just where it mattered most…

    Looking forward to your insight as we go along. :-)

  • Feed Jake ~

    thank you, but truly, no apology necessary. that was just a simple (but kind of appropriately timed) mistake.

    a quick search of the comments instantly revealed that WoodWose was the Don Juan Matus culprit! :)

    lots of quotes from WoodWose on that.

    btw, it is really easy for the mods to search comments here, for just about anything. I’m only speaking for myself and not Guy or richards, but if someone really wants to find something out, just drop me a word here or offline and I’ll give it a shot when I have the time. moflow at outlook dot com.

    also, I wasn’t mad at all. I rarely get mad here. what I am almost always is high energy, intense and direct. sometimes that may come across as mad. (or even truly insane I imagine ‘-)

    again though, if I cross boundaries, call me on it if anyone wishes. I will always listen.

    44 south ~

    what a wacky adventure! :) as mentioned, later on, I am going to try and sort out the Henrys. at this point, I’m not even sure if Henry the Original can reclaim his name without the system blocking him. have to check that and some other things…


  • A well-placed pause transforms a poem,
    a presentation,
    a life.

    A misplaced pause, or one too long, instead can create strife.

    Ha, I love that great verse from Doctor Guy McPherson, sounds like Lao Tzu speaking here 8-) And it can be translated very well into musical terms too.

    Dedicated to Doctor Guy McPherson:


  • LWA ~

    what a great outline of Taoism above. thank you! and the perfect way to conclude that, with the Mingus selection. oh my, that is so goooooood!

    rewinding the tape on that one right now…

  • not the Cyndi Lauper version. very nice quality.

  • Wow mo, I liked that a lot. So mellow and hip. Thanks. Going into my music list that one is. :)

  • SHEP & tribe meeting on my island this August. Summer of love, touch the natural crystal spheres under the ocean. A sea of stars and insights far above the most sophisticated technology. No ELECTRICTITY to re-connect with true nature. Wave of creation. Quantum to the core. Pura Vida!

  • Me too! Thanks Mo. I never sat down and consciously listened to Ben Webster before. I guess this is perfection.