Between Two Dreams

“Any good poet, in our age at least, must begin with the scientific view of the world; and any scientist worth listening to must be something of a poet, must possess the ability to communicate to the rest of us his sense of love and wonder at what his work discovers.” ~ Edward Abbey


A well-placed pause transforms a poem,
a presentation,
a life.

A misplaced pause, or one too long, instead can create strife.


Passion and intellect are unrewarded
in this culture of lies
as unhealthy.

The exceptions generate money, hence power, for the wealthy.


Passion and intellect offer rewards
that can be appreciated
only from within.

But most within the dominant culture peer out, not in.


A verdant planet requires evolutionary history
to create balance,
albeit delicate.

Tipping the delicate balance destroys life on Earth.


The balance was tipped before we showed up
millennia ago, pushing us toward
the pursuit of “same.”

Born into captivity, we’re not to blame.


Cultural errors come with a price
typically unforeseen
even by prophets.

Paying the price based on one’s date of birth is monstrous.


Assuming a counter-cultural path is not for the weak.
The faint of heart
will wither.

Radicalism comes with the sweet, and also with the bitter.


The horrors of imperialism are unrecognized
by the masses, who choose
to remain ignorant.

The privileges of Empire are difficult to admit, even when malignant.


Walking away from imperialism is a ruinous path
filled with disparagement
from the many.

The cost of freedom from cultural shackles is great, and worth every penny.


We few know there is another way to live
free from the shackles
in our last years.

Breaking free is a choice taken by few as wishes overwhelm fears.


The “monkey trap” of civilization is a cage.
There is an escape route,
a way over the wall.

Are you willing to break free, to answer the clarion call?


You know another way is possible
and you know the way.
Do the math.

Instead of dreaming of your escape, take a step along the path.


Trapped between two dreams, few swim upstream
against the current
of mediocrity.

Unwilling to join the revolution, they deserve our pity.


Cultural shackles are as new as the culture, and are
similarly restrictive for those unwilling
to open the latch.

The cost of escape is everything, with remuneration to match.



A three-minute video introduction to me and my work is offered by Bill Nye and National Geographic. It’s here.

Comments 138

  • Hard to be poetic about this:

    Thursday, 3 March 2016
    Methane hydrates make the mainstream
    Climate trouble may be bubbling up in far north

    [finally an inaccurate blurb from the MSM, a bit late to the party . . ]

    [some U.S. political commentary]

    Thursday, 3 March 2016
    The reality of politics in the United States
    A choice between the criminal and the criminally insane

    Show Will Go On: Why It Does Not Matter Who Will Replace Barack Obama
    It does not matter who wins the White House, US attorney and author John W. Whitehead notes, adding that neither Hillary Clinton, nor Donald Trump will save the day.

    According to John W. Whitehead, US attorney and author and founder of The Rutherford Institute, American politics is not about Republicans and Democrats, nor is it about healthcare, abortion, higher taxes, free college tuition, or other “buzzwords.

    “Politics today is about one thing and one thing only: maintaining the status quo between the Controllers (the politicians, the bureaucrats, and the corporate elite) and the Controlled (the taxpayers),” Whitehead writes in his article for The Rutherford Institute website.

    No matter who wins the upcoming presidential election, since the new boss will do the same as the old one, it is the unelected bureaucracy who actually calls the shots and it will continue to do so, the US author notes.

    “Hillary will not save the nation. Nor will Bernie, Trump, Rubio, or Cruz,” Whitehead underscores.

    “The only ones who can save the nation are ‘we the people,’ and yet the American people remain eager to be persuaded that a new president in the White House can solve the problems that plague us,” the author believes. [more]

  • @Tom

    Hard to be poetic about this:

    There’s nothing poetry can’t handle:

    ” Cathartic methane prose

    The zany indifference
    of the neglected poet
    produces such systemic
    mental indigestion’s.
    The kind of cathartic
    methane prose
    that cuts closest to the quick
    of nail bitten sentences.
    An axe driven portend
    feverish for tomorrows indecision,
    the eternal lament for the ending
    that never quite comes”

    – Mark

    @Doctor Guy McPherson

    Thank you for another great post! I love to see you putting your thoughts and feelings into poetry! And, man, great to see you on National Geographic together with Bill Nye! Respect!

    ” The balance was tipped before we showed up
    millennia ago, pushing us toward
    the pursuit of “same.”
    Born into captivity, we’re not to blame…

    Walking away from imperialism is a ruinous path
    filled with disparagement
    from the many.
    The cost of freedom from cultural shackles is great, and worth every penny.”

    So true, so true :-) It’s easy, boring and lame, to spread nothing but despair, but it’s a gift, to teach the real nature of things.

  • GOP – Gnomes On Parade

    I thought that was funny.

  • Man, that’s a strange, FUNNY coincidence/syncronicity- Arnold Schwarzenegger as psychiatrist and Bill Nye as his patient talking about the five stages of climate change grief, hahaha:

  • Good luck in 2016 Guy.

    What is a troll?

    By definition, it’s someone who lies.

    If I talk about extinction, people call me tree hugger.

    If I talk about pro-nuclear power, people call me troll.

    If I talk anti-solar & wind power, people call me troll.

    In reality, it’s anyone someone “feels” is lying.

    Although sometimes my wife makes me feel like a troll,

    even when I’m not lying.

  • Cowgirl Apocalypse Haiku #121

    Rabbits become stones
    on a grassy slope, at dusk-
    dormant tree stands guard.

  • We’re all “bad” scientists. My path was that of Newton. He spent most of his life on unraveling the Bible. Few know that his “expiration” date was pretty close. In the Book of Daniel there is a reference in time.

    “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.

    NOTE: NKJV is closest to Hebrew & Greek language, so the best one out there, the New American Bible is also a good translation although I haven’t checked the caps.

    So Newton basically took as base the formation of the Catholic council in Trend, and blew the denomination shofar. What I think is a better foundation is Jerusalem, the declared location by the Prophets. So in 70 AD the Romans destroyed the temple and the “daily” sacrifice was taken away. The Dome of the Rock was set up in 692 AD. It is in honor of Abraham by the people of Ishmael. Of course it is an abomination and desolate as it worships a rock and that perhaps didn’t sit right with the spirit of the prophets, sorry there are different sources in those area’s of consciousness; and I do care about interfaith rather than glorification of humans, truth is truth and hate dogmatic trappings of spiritual teachers that blind many to hate and justification by wickedness to match their desires or ignorance. So when you add 1290 to 692 you find that in 1982 significant events will begin to unfold. The period in which we will either grow up and learn to be responsible & accountable or simply expire will end in 1335+692=2027, why: because that chapter has an open ending.

    To me that’s clear enough and everything really has gone quickly after the 80’s. We either make it or not. My advise is, if you will begin experiencing the Jerusalem syndrome, not get stuck in the gnostic texts of nova as it will circle you right back to kindergarten. Ever since I figured out the above I’ve been digging into earth sciences and really understand that it is & was possible both ways, that we can effect and should.

    Genesis 1: Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

    subdue= overcome, quieten, or bring under control

  • Highest ever daily average CO2 concentration was measured at Mauna Loa Observatory yesterday: 406.46 ppm. Previous year: 400.98 ppm. Year-on-year increase: 5.48 ppm.

    Faster & faster!

    On a different note, on the America 2.0 google group, one commenter (Fred Kaluza) started a thread speculating on the possibility of a Trump presidency:

    “Let’s pretend…

    there was still a way to save what remains of the non-human life left on Earth. Now I’m talking to the three of you that are still reading.

    Let’s further pretend that voting for an American political candidate could help make this happen by causing a die-off of 95% of the planet’s humans.

    Does Trump look like a good candidate in that light?”

    Trump! The collapse candidate!
    Make America Grate Again!

  • USA (and climate change) is built on land stolen from Indian tribes, says the United Nations. Why not at last return the stolen land that you call the United States and disappear. Americans! No Trump, no Clinton, just please go away.

  • Unbelievable. You sound like Jesus. We make it with all 7 billion together or not at all. Remember the management of habitat depends on Water Management of Locals! That’s how far we have grown. Tribe elder from South America: if we vanish we will all vanish together. COP21

  • .
    Just sittin’ on this runaway train, staring out the window with a cat on my lap.

  • Guy! wow. great poem. I was completely grabbed from the first line.

    fantastic. thank you so much!!


    pssst. Bob honey, I’ve got a secret for you, huggy bear.

    the truth is already out there.

    and there is really nothing you can do to stop it.

    sorry, but those horses have been out of the barn for so long now they’ve gone on and evolved into purple unicorns.

    you’re just a bit late sweetie. if you still want to play at Enforcer of the Taboo, please feel free. you seem to enjoy it, and every being needs their joy.

    this one’s for you.

  • Belated HAPPY B-day to Guy. Guy’s Facebook helped me connect with the date while I was away. ART of connections. Medical arts & nightmares:

    Once our neocortex is uploaded to the Cloud, it positions DARPA perfectly for searching our every thought and pre-thought. While this might sound like an impossible amount of information to upload, let alone interconnect and search, it is being announced that researchers have designed the first nanocomputer that can push beyond the concept of Moore’s Law, which imposes a theoretical limitation on the expansion of computer processing power.

    The DARPA funded labs & teams designed and assembled, from the bottom up, a functioning, ultra-tiny control computer that is the densest nanoelectronic system ever built.

    A technical paper has been published online in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on the research.

    The ultra-small, ultra-low-power control processor—termed a nanoelectronic finite-state machine or “nanoFSM”—is smaller than a human nerve cell. In their recent collaboration they combined several tiles on a single chip to produce a first-of-its-kind complex, programmable nanocomputer. Max Planck neurogenesis at DAVOS summit meeting.

    It shouldn’t be seen as coincidence that these developments are happening simultaneously. What appears on the surface to be discoveries in entirely different fields are coalescing rapidly as we approach the theoretical date of The Singularity – the full merger of human and machine. If any humans are to survive, we know the RADIATION must be removed. Hopefully Earth can continue to after humans. Big reasons for other species to evolve beyond us.

    Despite the benign language of futurists, we know that a concerted effort is already underway to manage and predict human behavior for a whole range of potentially anti-human applications. As our free will is also targeted like the cells of our body — for drug therapy or elimination — ethical concerns must be voiced loud and clear. Scientists seem content with opening Pandora’s Box, then worrying about negative consequences later … and that is only if we assume that their intentions are benign from the beginning. One should take time to examine the history of military experimentation on human populations to see all of this through a very different lens.

    At the very least, instead of the fully realized vision of Human Body 2.0, this might be Big Pharma 2.0 — a new phase where conventional drugs are incrementally replaced by nanodrugs and nano-fleet delivery systems. Coupled with applications that directly enter our brain to connect us to the computer matrix, we are rapidly entering an entirely new human paradigm.

    The funding is already there, and a massive amount of money is waiting to be made by companies like Google. Here again, for those who might only see the bright side to this technology, we ought to question who is really in control of it. In fact, the reverse engineering of the human brain has already been announced to be well under way via new microchips and accompanying software. And, while full nanobot rewiring of the brain is not expected before 2020, has reported that our DNA has been successfully targeted by nanobots “for drug therapy or destruction.” The statue of Shiva in front of CERN is very symbolic of creation & destruction cycles. Steven Hawking taking Geniux pills along with Bill Gates and many others is part of Neurogenesis.

  • troll-bad…gnome-good. trolls live on people, gnomes live on berries. fudge to all of you.

  • i just got engaged fellows! to the world!

  • The Roof is On Fire — Looks like February of 2016 Was 1.5 to 1.7 C Above 1880s Averages

    “The time for foot-dragging and half-measures is now at an end. We need a very rapid response.” — Beeffinghind the times.

    Hubbout the example of Ms. Bright:

    There was a young lady named Bright
    Whose speed was far faster than light;
    She set out one day
    In a relative way
    And returned on the previous night.

  • Awkward Pause…

    Much Love and Appreciation!

  • Batman: too late – somebody went and stole it out from under us (using
    “legal” means)! We’d be handing them back a toxic, polluted
    and burning landfill anyway. How’s it where you are?

    Call It What It Is: America Is A Police State

  • My wife’s family is very traditionally religious and always say a prayer before holiday dinners. They make long rambling prayers, which just before a banquet is interminable. Once, they made the mistake of asking me to lead the prayer, so I said, “Rub A Dub Dub, Thank God For The Grub”. That was many years ago, and never asked me lead the prayer ever again.

  • If You Don’t Warn The People, Their Blood Could Be On Your Hands

    Why are so few voices warning the people about what is coming? We stand at the door of a period of distress that will be unlike anything that any of us have ever known before. And even though the signs are all around us, very few individuals appear to be willing to stand up and sound the alarm. Instead, there seems to be a large number of people that are quite eager to criticize the watchmen.

    [more; this blogger thinks there’s a future, once we get over the next financial collapse; the question holds for all whistle-blowers imho]

  • The 1981-2020 Arctic ice average curve peaks on 12th March, at 15.463 millionkm2.

    From 22nd Feb to 29th Feb rapid refreezing occurred. The most recent data points

    29th 14.457
    1st 14.472
    2nd 14.477

    suggest that the next turn in the curve is underway. The next few weeks could well be the most interesting ever.

    Fools that the were,
    They brought about
    Their own demise,
    Through CO2
    And lack of ice.

  • Great poem. I like your Guy 3.0. Keep growing…..

    To my fans: I am not dead….yet….

  • Tom ~ heh heh. no worries. dontcha know the scientists are going to reengineer the entire biosphere so that it can flourish within Venusian conditions? tweak a gene here and a brain there, and we’ve got this thing locked, baby.


    btw, the most popular review of The Book I linked above is so amazingly good I have to repeat the whole thing right here. this review is both brilliant and incredibly sensitive, start to finish.


    I read this book when it was first published in 1966, re-read it after an unexpected opportunity to meet Alan Watts just before he died (in 1973), and then re-read it again recently after having recommended it highly to a close personal friend. Long ago, I became convinced that the nature and extent of any book’s impact are almost entirely dependent on (a) the nature and extent of our life experiences when reading a book and (b) the nature and extent of our ability to absorb and digest whatever that book may offer. Watts’s The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are offers an excellent case in point. Frankly, Watts’s personal impact on me now is greater than were the first and second readings of his book. At the beginning of our brief encounter, I immediately sensed his stunning intellect and compelling decency. More impressive by far was a sense of his spirituality. It was most evident in his eyes and tone of voice. More then twenty years later, I re-read The Book. What follows is an admittedly clumsy attempt to share my thoughts and feelings about it.

    First, with regard to the title and subtitle, Watts explains that “The Book I am thinking about [and later wrote] would not be religious in the usual sense, but it would have to discuss many things with which religions have been concerned — the universe and man’s place in it, the mysterious center of experience which we call ‘I myself.’ the problems of life and love, pain and death, and the whole question of whether existence has meaning has meaning in [in italics] any sense of the word.”

    With regard to the subtitle, Watts explains that there is no need for a new religion or a new bible. “We need a new experience — a new feeling of what it is to be ‘I.’ The lowdown (which is, of course, the secret and profound view) on life is that our normal sensation of self is a hoax, or, at best, a temporary role that we are playing, or have been conned into playing — with our own tacit consent, just as every hypnotized person is basically willing to be hypnotized. The most strongly enforced of all known taboos is the taboo against knowing who or what you really are behind the mask of your apparently separate, independent, and isolated ego.”

    So, that was the book Watts was thinking about writing, and, the taboo to which he devotes most of his attention (directly or indirectly) throughout the book he eventually wrote.

    What do I now think of this book? First, it retains its ecumenical spirit but in ways and to an extent I did not fully appreciate years ago. Watts is very respectful of all of the major religions, at least in terms of the common values they affirm; however, he also suggests (and I agree) that those values have been concealed by layer-after-layer of doctrine, policy, and procedure. Watts’s point: “The standard-brand religions, whether Jewish, Christian, Mohammedan, or Buddhist, are — as now practiced — like exhausted mines very hard to dig.” Also, I am again struck by the fact that Watts suggests a mindset which is inclusive, tolerant (and when appropriate, forgiving…especially of self), and at all times determined to continue a process of self-discovery. It seems that he wrote this book because he had become concerned about man’s alienation from himself (herself) as well as from other human beings and from the physical world within which all of us struggle to achieve (in Abraham Maslow’s terms) survival, then security, and eventually self-fulfillment.

    This is not a book for dilettantes. Watts is quite serious when posing questions so easily phrased but so difficult to answer, at least responsibly. In his view, “for thousands of years human history has been a magnificently futile conflict, a wonderfully staged panorama of triumph and tragedies based on the resolute taboo against admitting that black goes with white [i.e. that diametrically opposed forces can co-exist, indeed nourish each other]. Nothing, perhaps, ever got nowhere with so much fascinating ado.” Having recently re-read this book, I was reminded of what Whitman observed in Song of Myself: “Do I contradict myself? Very well, then, I contradict myself. I am large. I contain multitudes.”

    I am also reminded of the key concept in Ernest Becker’s The Denial of Death. He acknowledges that all of us die eventually. Only the suicide decides the circumstances in which physical death occurs. However, Becker suggests that there is another death that CAN be denied: That which occurs when when we become totally preoccupied with fulfilling others’ expectations of us.

    For me, that is the essential point in The Book. Watts concludes with a quotation of James Broughton’s observations:

    This is It
    and I am It
    and You are It
    and so is That
    and He is It
    And She is It
    and It is It
    and That is That.

    “To come on like IT — to play at being God — is to play the Self as a role, which is just what it isn’t. When IT plays, it plays at being everything else.”

    “Who am I?” Alan Watts offers this book which can help to answer that question. However, the inevitably perilous journey of self-discovery can only be completed by each of us. And that journey may require many years of frustration and confusion…without any guarantee that any of us will reach the destination we seek. Our choice. It always was, is…and will be.

  • Monthly numbers are out (preliminary) for February atmospheric CO2:

    February 2016: 404.16 ppm
    February 2015: 400.26 ppm
    Year-on-year monthly average increase: 3.9 ppm

    This is in addition to the new daily average record I refer to above. Recorded on 3/2/2016: 406.46 ppm. This was an increase of 5.48 ppm from the same day last year (3/2/2015: 400.98 ppm).

    Faster & faster.

  • Lying About Climate Change or Urging Armageddon

    Sea-level rises
    Low-lying people
    In coastal hamlets
    On small islands
    Momentous peril
    Storm surges,
    Puny human hands
    In parted seas.
    Urban crowds
    And rising rivers
    Swell momentous
    Millions of mouths
    Biblical inundation
    Desecrate temples
    To god of greed
    Lewd sewers spew
    The arrogance of our
    Predicament, in stench
    Fouled water,
    Power plants blast
    Spontaneous ignition
    Methane blooms olfactory
    Asea; inland Conflagration:
    Sherman or the wrath of God.

  • I have never read such an intelligent poem filled with so much meaning and feeling. Honest and pellucid, it captures our dilemma at the realization of our predicament. It moved me to tears.

    I somehow knew that your poetry would be very heartfelt and compelling Dr. Guy

  • Update: Today we breached +2°C for the first time. A milestone moment for our species.

  • Mo I read The Book back in the 70s and it made such an impact on me I put an add in the personal column of the paper asking anyone who had read it to make contact.
    Not sure what I was hoping for,perhaps a kindred spirit, someone with whom I could share the experience that weed was giving me but with a more lasting affect.
    Two people responded. The first was a clearly gay young man who I found too awkward to relate to, talking in the privacy of his bedroom.
    The second was a woman somewhat kooky in appearance, who had ecstatic experiences at classical concerts.

    I went back to my love affair with maryjane and the joy of being temporarily merely present from time to time.
    The great difficulty, it seems to me, is getting past the petty prejudices and differences to the divine.
    That problem is regularly demonstrated on these pages.

  • Tom says: “We stand at the door of a period of distress that will be unlike anything that any of us have ever known before. And even though the signs are all around us, very few individuals appear to be willing to stand up and sound the alarm.”

    Someone else says: “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be… when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.”

    Bad moon rising!

  • I have not bought it yet, however,

    piques my interst. The price seems decent at kobo, something nice to read on the bus to/fro work. Anytime one can get something decent from decent people …

    From the Fairewinds site

    This beautiful book of poetry opens with an explanation about the use of atomic power and the unfolding disaster of the triple meltdowns at Fukushima Daiichi. It is an amazing collection of 50 poems in English followed by a separate section with the poems in the original Japanese. These are rich evocative poems,

  • J.G. Ballard ‏:
    When you’re a young writer, you want to change the world – when you get to my age, you realise it doesn’t make any difference whatsoever.

  • Arrived on planet earth, 61 years ago today, but I didn’t wake up to what’s going on until I turned 50.
    Waking up, lead me to NBL and the truth.

  • .

    Thanks for the poem Guy. Fabulously admonishing, I loved it.

    No wonder they made you be poetry prof.

    Between two dreams. Well put.

  • Check out the 23 min mark. Guy,is brought up in the conversation, could be a pod cast topic.

  • Sorry mo – I didn’t know Alan Watts discovered the *truth* in the 60’s — guess I didn’t get the memo.

    And I have no doubt there are purple unicorns aplenty in your dreams of truth. Kinda like an esoteric pride parade with ET’s and whatnot.

    Rock on.

  • Actually, Newton went with 2060 as the end date. I’m inclined to think that 2040 is when it all falls apart but maybe 2060 makes sense for total extinction. He did invent calculus so maybe he was on to something.

  • Anarchism is about courage. It takes poise to help people escape the cult of normalcy, wherein they revel in a haze of disinterest and violence and depravity. But when anarchists attempt to persuade people to discard love of their culture coma, of blood and carnage, they usually get a counterattack in the form of dismissive slander…

    As soon as anarchists utter one word about liberation of mind and body, friends and family will alienate them, ostracize them, turn them into social pariahs. They will talk about them behind their backs and perhaps excommunicate them from the clan…

    Anarchists have historically been a prey species for bureaucrats. They are the hunted because they are the ones trying to overturn the aggressive hierarchy and create stability and homeostasis among the people. Thus, the courage of an anarchist ensues as absolute fearlessness. The anarchist could die in the process of being disobedient…

    Anarchists must must maintain fortitude. When they get the ball of dissent rolling, they will likely undergo assaults from all of those they engage, including friends, family, society, and government employees. But if they remain vigilant, people will start to see them as role models. And thus they will help people escape the cult of normalcy…

    No doubt, when people realize the strength of their soul, they will eventually spit in the face of those who claim to be their masters—they will rebel not physically, but culturally, mentally, and emotionally. They will reject the notion that they must be meek and docile before those who insinuate themselves as parasitical entities, bent to feed off of them forever.

  • “Why are so few voices warning the people about what is coming? We stand at the door of a period of distress that will be unlike anything that any of us have ever known before. And even though the signs are all around us, very few individuals appear to be willing to stand up and sound the alarm. Instead, there seems to be a large number of people that are quite eager to criticize the watchmen.”

    Thanks Tom,
    this has been nagging at me for weeks have read my mind!
    A burning up inside the worse it gets the less people want to confront this…nobody is talking and the Oil Barrons rub their hands,bigger an bigger concrete buildings pop up around me,there are more people,more traffic..everyone has blinkers on
    I feel angry really.. actually

    Hey Mo Flo …thanks for your work,and really enjoy the laughs..

    thanks Guy, I really enjoyed your poem,It rang a chord with my soul..each footstep i take is directed to living freer in my mind and my places and with my loved ones.

  • The ultimate fuck it song…

    I’m Feelin rough I’m Feelin raw I’m in the prime of my life.
    Let’s make some music make some money find some models for wives.
    I’ll move to Paris, shoot some heroin and fuck with the stars.
    You man the island and the cocaine and the elegant cars.

    This is our decision to live fast and die young.
    We’ve got the vision, now let’s have some fun.
    Yeah it’s overwhelming, but what else can we do?
    Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?

    Forget about our mothers and our friends.
    We were fated to pretend.

    I’ll miss the playgrounds and the animals and digging up worms.
    I’ll miss the comfort of my mother and the weight of the world.
    I’ll miss my sister, miss my father, miss my dog and my home.
    Yeah I’ll miss the boredom and the freedom and the time spent alone.

    But there is really nothing, nothing we can do.
    Love must be forgotten. Life can always start up anew.
    The models will have children, we’ll get a divorce,
    We’ll find some more models, Everything must run its course.

    We’ll choke on our vomit and that will be the end.
    We were fated to pretend.

    Yeah yeah yeah

  • Methane as an Arctic climate forcer

    PDF Page 35 (24)
    Natural terrestrial emissions for AMAP methane climate modeling
    Based on the range of outputs shown in Sect. 3.6, the natural emission scenarios span changes between a modest 10 Tg/y to more than 40 Tg/y for natural terrestrial methane emissions through the year 2080. These projections do not consider abrupt changes or accelerating trends, although such changes are possible during this period.

    PDF Page 46 (36)
    The model results do not include sudden methane release from catastrophic events such as submarine landslides or pockmark explosions, even though it has been suggested that such occurrences can release large amounts of methane in a single event. However, there is no indication from ice-core records of any large contribution from such incidents in at least the past 20 kyr, despite a huge event such as the Storegga slide (see Sect. 4.5) and the knowledge that submarine slides are common

    Yeah, great science like the rates in the paleorecords are as unprecedented as now. The massive fluctuations in ice & water mass triggers earthquakes, P, in perfect Logic and if you check USGS archive data on earthquakes and overlap it to CH4 satellite date when GEOS-5 has not been in safe mode you’ll find elevated counts in the datasets suggesting that deep oceanic release is a reality and does enter the atmosphere.

    In this document:
    AMAP Assessment 2013: Arctic Ocean Acidification

    If only thinking about the fact that Natural nutrients are originating from ruptures in the earths crust in the lithosphere any idiot can contemplate that this is just going Too fast and river outputs is just not gonna cut it. 10% of the world fish is fetched from the Arctic; that is gigantic. Ahh are some betting on phytoplankton to safe the day…

    So we have the age old struggle of fact and fiction, believing and knowing. Look how much trouble religion brought in the past, one big pile of dung, can you imagine how much trouble there will be with the millions of published scientific findings, linking everything together in 1 giant puzzle of the “past” AND being very careful about what could happen. It took more than 300 years for religion to get organized and form the new testament and start their anti gnostic campaign to enforce universalized “blessed” (christos) belief And 2000 years to have basic human rights. Kyoto 400 ppm was the accepted maximum and goal was to remain well under that 400ppm of carbon dioxide as 450ppm was toast for certain, they, the establishments, all knew very very well, risky; “we make daily risky choices” so they “believed” and followed what? So the combined forcing is already well over 450ppm if you calculate the CH4 forcing of 2150ppb and N2O and all the others that are just on route within the planetary climate system. We just didn’t have 300 years to learn to deal with knowledge this time by the religion of economic growth. Technology? Suck on a volcano, GL.

  • Order now, while supplies last! Nature giving those willing and ready the means to make it happen:

    Mother Warns About Seeds From ‘Suicide Trees’ After Death Of 22-Year-Old

    A Chicago-area mom is speaking out to warn others after she says her 22-year-old daughter died by consuming a deadly seed the young woman had purchased online, in what may be the first of at least two related deaths in the state.

    With a few clicks of her mouse, Lucia McCalip was able to order the so-called pong pong seeds from Thailand for just $5, the woman’s mother told ABC 6.

    “It was slow and it was painful,” Natosha Anderson said of her daughter’s last hours after she was found on the floor of their Calumet City home two weeks ago.

    Anderson said that when McCalip admitted to intentionally swallowing one of the seeds, no one, including medical personnel, knew what they were.

    The toxic seeds, which originate from cerbera odollam or “suicide trees,” can be easily purchased online as decorative items. They are found across India and Southeast Asia and are used by more people to die by suicide than any other plant, New Scientist reported. [more]

  • Good morning folks, hope all is well, I know I am because tonight is date night with my wife of 20 years.

    Readers may have noticed I am obsessed with numbers, well I’m not exactly a poetry guy.

    While being numerically obsessed is somewhat useful, they are almost meaningless in the context of crises convergence. Nevertheless:

    By 2030 – 14 years from now

    Food +40% needed

    Water +40% needed

    Energy +55% needed

    Emissions +37% emitted.

    By 2050 – 34 years from now

    Food +60% needed

    Water +55% needed

    Energy +80% needed

    Emissions +52% emitted.

    By 2050 we are asked to believe we can grow 50% more food with 50% less soil and 50% less water and 50% less pollinators and 50% more drought and 50% more flooding and 50% more extreme weather while energy demand will increase 80% and emissions will rise 50% which is bad enough, but did you know that abrupt climate change can happen 1000 times faster than now? Better get a hard copy of the world’s greatest cookbook called, How To Serve Humans.

  • Excellent post Wester.

    Yo digi ¡

    Have you seen the latest William Banzai7 ¿ Funny that.

  • Sometimes a change is a good as a rest.
    A steady diet of bad news can be most off-putting.
    And nothing brings us together like a home-cooked meal.
    For delectable delight ladies and gentleman, I offer you…
    A cannabis fuelled epicurean canniboid delight.

  • Art historian Jill Lloyd on Edvard Munch and The Scream:

    “The Scream is one of those images that sums up a changing point in history,” she explains. “It presents man cut loose from all the certainties that had comforted him up until that point in the 19th Century: there is no God now, no tradition, no habits or customs – just poor man in a moment of existential crisis, facing a universe he doesn’t understand and can only relate to in a feeling of panic.”
    She adds: “That may sound very negative, but that is the modern state. This is what distinguishes modern man from post-Renaissance history up until that moment: this feeling that we have lost all the anchors that bind us to the world.”

    An entry in Munch’s diary, dated 22 January 1892, recorded the inspiration for The Scream: “I was walking along the road with two friends – the sun went down – I felt a gust of melancholy – suddenly the sky turned a bloody red. I stopped, leaned against the railing, tired to death – as the flaming skies hung like blood and sword over the blue-black fjord and the city – my friends went on – I stood there trembling with anxiety – and I felt a vast infinite scream through nature.”

  • ahhh yes, Munch! my spiritual brother! not too many i’ve felt closer to….. u.s. news- bird poop likely caused n.y. reactor outage……you really only need to read one book…and if you understand what a true portrayal of civilization that it is…you understand that the only way to remain sane and whole is to walk away from this rolling disaster. kafka- “the castle”…. in my opinion, living under a bridge is preferable to being strangled by an evil mechanical octopus.

  • My own personal history of Guy McPherson,


    How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bong.

  • An early peak in ice cover?

    2nd March 14.178 millionkm2
    3rd 14.168

  • jesus christ! where’s my popcorn! wester…thanks for the anarchy refresher…it made me tear up! ogardener…yes,you gotta love bonzai 7, he really found his niche…but romney is not the only king! wester, the jg ballard classic, “high rise”…coming to the silver screen. kevin…the world is shit filled, but you are fortunate enough to live in one of the best places on earth…take a hike! i would. robert…sometimes i worry that i just can’t get stoned enough anymore.

  • More CO2 on the way:

    Big polluters: one massive container ship equals 50 million cars
    April 23, 2009
    “Shipping is by far the biggest transport polluter in the world. There are 760 million cars in the world today emitting approx 78,599 tons of Sulphur Oxides (SOx) annually. The world’s 90,000 vessels burn approx 370 million tons of fuel per year emitting 20 million tons of Sulphur Oxides. That equates to 260 times more Sulphur Oxides being emitted by ships than the worlds entire car fleet. One large ship alone can generate approx 5,200 tonnes of sulphur oxide pollution in a year, meaning that 15 of the largest ships now emit as much SOx as the worlds 760 million cars.

    South Korea’s STX shipyard says it has designed a ship to carry 22,000 shipping containers that would be 450 meters long and there are already 3,693 new ship builds on the books for ocean going vessels over 150 meters in length due over the next three years. The amount of air pollution just these new ships will put out when launched is equal to having another 29 billion cars on the roads.”

    Global Shipping Industry Targets 50% Reduction in CO2 Emissions by 2050

    COP21 International Shipping

    “Official Stats:”

    Total fleet: 89 464 {Dead weight 2015: 1 749 222 000 tons} {2009: 1 192 317 000 tons}
    Oil tankers: 9 435
    Bulk carriers: 10 340
    General cargo: 20 216
    Container ships: 5 106

    Fishing-vessels: 23,740 {2007}

  • Remember, religion is like a pole – no, not a polack, but one uff’em long stiks. Ya gotta go pole vaultin’. Ven da pole gets ya up ta whar ya wannabe, ya GOTTA LET GO of the goddamned pole, or yer gonna loose da medal.

    Jest becos yer preacher didn’t tell yah, dassent mean dat ’tain’t true. Matter uv fact, he cain’t tellya dat, ‘cos if he duz, the hole congergaton will go absconding after the first pole vault, an’ there ain’t anyone ‘t pass the hat aroun’.

  • jumpin’ jesus on a pogo stick! sorry! i know, i know, third post…please let this one fly…all you music lovers!! i would post this video, but can’t…on youtube…MUST SEE!!! ” wintergaten marble machine(music instrument using 2000 marbles)” simply astounding!

  • .


    Thanks for the tones for little white ass bones for sure. What a great way to start my day, nothing says fuck it to me like a saxophone blowing be-bop ballads.

    I take it you play sax, right? Being a Charlie Parker fan? You know, when I played for a long while in the be bop scene I played at different times with both sax and trumpet as the solo horn in front of the traditional trio of piano, bass, and drums. I started my be bop era with sax players, then ended that period of my life with a trumpet player as the lead. While I was happy to get to work with a great trumpet player, which was actually rare around these parts, I still always favored the saxophone and that phhhht pht phhhhhhh of air that came along with the tone of a well played sax. To me that was jazz. And in be-bop, I love the ballads almost more than all the excited stuff, that mood can just slay me sometimes. When that sax starts blowing so sad like that, well, I’m just done … complete. Fuck it, nothing further required.

    So thanks Henry, what a treat. DJ me some of that sexophone tone as often as you want please.

    It’s my favorite shit ever on this planet. I’m serious, that sound is my muse.


  • “Any good poet, in our age at least, must begin with the scientific view of the world” Really?

  • Paul C., Henry, Mo, Nemesis and others – Isn’t it unexpected when your worldview collapses, and you are sitting there in the ashes, that sometimes you get glimpses of a strange new light shining through everything that is yet somehow familiar….?

  • Mark K

    On the other hand, ships burning low quality oil are almost certainly helping keep the Earth cool in the short term via Global Dimming.

    It is now clear that there is no way out of the death trap that Industrial Civilisation has created. Stop it now: immediate overheating. Keep it going: more overheating later.

  • Oops. Sorry. Mart K

  • “It is now clear that there is no way out of the death trap that Industrial Civilisation has created.” Ha-ha, life is the death trap. Everyone will die and be dead, that is D-E-A-D, death is not that happens to somebody else.

    The Schrodinger cat paradox?


    TOM – 99% of humans are delusional (myself included, especially on isle 8 at Walmart.) MY only serious concern is for OTHER SPECIES after all humans are gone. Earth can continue to evolve as long as our radiation and chemicals do not destroy the atmosphere.

    Delusion??? Maybe some form of mental energy will transform with insights. Learning from greedy mistakes. Basic sustainability common sense Dr. Guy Mc Pherson tried to teach us at UofA decades ago.

    Geniux RX, Blue Brain digital waves for instant mind change. Heck yeah, we are the real Sci “aliens” here developing the DARPA neural network. On the edge of extinction we can try everything …. especially if it might blast half of the disconnected leaders into rapid nuclear plant decommissioning. Hundreds of doctors for nuclear responsibility do care about leaving Earth with less radiation. It only takes a few hundred with the right technology to alter the path of billions. None of us or what we do counts. It’s about the future for OTHER SPECIES in the slightly bigger picture. Our electro synesthetic tissue is on all national news channels as I type. But the methane spike – not even Porter Ranch problems are on TV for a reason. Everything is already under media manipulation. Bluetooth BLUE BEAM will just do it a lot faster than messy biowar.

    People are lining up at Cape Canaveral, Epcot & Jupiter for the Audio spotlight direct mind messaging encounter. Powerful microwaves direct to the brain. Drink your cell phone and feel the synapse. Easy to get thousands of people to jump right in. Even last year I had no idea that altering minds could be so easy. Guess it’s better than the giant WW3 drills now in action. Will we microwave or just plain old fashioned burn up the Arctic this summer. Race to the “enlightened” finish???

  • Thank you, Dr. Guy, Cowgirl Apocalypse (Denise), babajingo, Wester, Tom,

    etc., etc.,

    thank you.

    “Fill your paper with the breathings of your heart.” (Wm. Wordsworth)

    “Opposition is true friendship.” (Wm. Blake)

  • LWA
    Talking of FUCK IT moments, I have to tell you a story of one of my mentors,

    I knew this guy called “Brian Underpants” in the seventies, Brian had “walked away from empire” 20 years prior to my time with him so he was on old hand; I was only 18 at the time building my mudbrick hut at the back of the tropical island in North Queensland (Dunk Island family group).
    Brian basically lived off the ocean; he fished and lived off the vegetables and fruits that were on local islands. He had this trimaran (three hulled sailboat) that looked like an old Jallopy built of driftwood etc. the boat was a work of Art.
    We would cook meals of fresh fish together, and eat fresh papaya, he would tell me how we are poisoning and polluting the world, and that civilisation and capitalism would collapse soon and the climate would change due to our behaviour’s.
    Brian introduced me to great Afro American Jazz(or music),we listened on his little battery operated record player ,the waves lapping beside us, this was his ultimate “Fuck it Moment” to listen to the Greats and be free from empire .It was then that I bought a saxophone and would honk it with the scrub hens.
    Brian was a bush lawyer and a total eccentric and radical; he would go to the outer islands to collect seashells, bring them back to sell them to the American tourists, right in front of the tourist resort below the low tide mark on the beach. He would tell them about how civilisation is going to collapse etc. etc., it was his ready-made soapbox. This of course would infuriate the Nazi resort manager, as Brian would do this wearing only his “underpants” but the authorities could do nothing as he was below the low tide mark. Brian would say “Fuck You” to the establishment with a smile.
    20 Years later in the mid-nineties Brian was in a massive cyclone that came through family group island and his boat was blown up and half destroyed in the mangroves on the island. As he had nowhere else to go, so he set up camp there under his boat in the mangroves, the authorities asked him to leave but he had nowhere to go. They eventually came in the white coats and took him away to a Townsville Mental Asylum. Where he sadly died.
    If you are interested Dunk Island has a long History of people walking away from empire. E.J Banfield and many other I knew there. These Guy were my mentors, they were environmentalists and total anarchists

    If you want to check out my music, this is my band
    Katie is a beautiful singer, check out the video “God Bless the Child’’ on video page
    I don’t do it to make money anymore, we get the occasional gig which pays our expenses, but when we get together we say FUCK IT

  • .

    What a great story Henry, thanks for this. Sorry about your dear friend. What an inspiring person he was, and he turned you into a Jazz casualty too, what a memory to cherish.

    I checked out God Bless the Child, a classic. I had to stop and listen to ‘Hallelujah I Love Her So’ though too, because I’m such a huge Ray Charles fan. I’ve even been able to jam out on an old Wurlitzer organ like Ray used lately over the past year, instead of always just using a traditional Rhodes electric piano. What a treat, it makes you sound like Ray, and we rescued that keyboard from the garbage too, if you can picture that. We saved it from its unwanted state and brought it to life again in one of our jam spaces.

    I like hearing that story and then seeing you in person there. You have a vibe that betrays your cleaned up gig appearance and says, ‘don’t mess with me, or I’ll play this show in my underwear, I’m warning you.’

    Your buddy soap boxing for the tourists in front of the resort in his underwear sounds like a perfect way to remember him.

    I loved your God Bless the Child rendition, especially ZZTop on the drums and Tony Levin on the bass. Perfect.

    I got to jam some Jazz on Christmas night this year, just spontaneously at a musician party along with a gal in town who is a Billy Holiday clone. Alas, we were so lost in the moment that nobody grabbed a phone and snapped any of it. It was just one of those random musical moments that came and went again.

    Thanks for your moving story about who it was who turned you into a jazz casualty, I loved it Henry.

    And I can’t believe you guys play ‘Girl From Ipanema.’ Is there any jazz musician who doesn’t play that song?

    Cheers Henry, here’s to keeping your horn warm any way you can.

  • Henry,

    what a great story man.


  • Henry ~

    thank you. and thanks for that amazing story of your friend Brian Underpants. wow.

    this one’s for you.

    Wester ~

    thanks for the great link on the anarchism takes courage article.

    Caroline ! the Scream.

    whole lotta great comments everybody.

  • As I said, I am working on the Peacock book on the “peopling” of North (and South) America, and hit the part where he argues that finding a balanced food source in a new environment would be simplified immensely via merely watching what the bears eat. (I would especially emphasize womyn watching what plants the bears eat.) And then today I see . Yellowstones Irreplacable Grizzlies details some of their methods of obtaining nutrition. Dovetail joints are a thing of beauty in carpentry – as is the dovetail of Peacock’s and David Mattson’s observations. One gets beauty where one can these days.

    And as I also previously posted, I really would like to find out others thoughts about the Liu, J., Z. Chen, J. Francis, M. Song, T. Mote, and Y. Hu. article paywalled behind expensive doors. I see that Neven has been starting to look at that, but so far just regurgitated the abstract and followed that with 2 sentences and a third sentence of the single word, “Together.” I am patient.

    It was nice to read from Neven’s blog however about how the definition of an “ice-free Arctic” is already becoming the “ever kicking the can down the road” into a mental swamp. From “A” where I am (A. The first year that at least one day is ‘ice free’.) to the open barn door long long after the cow and horse and goats all got out of the barn and got ate “D” scenario of (D. The final year of 5 consecutive September monthly means which are ’ice-free’.) At least we have the base threshold definition of “northern hemispheric sea ice extent (defined as the total area of ocean with a sea ice fraction greater than 15%) is less than 1 million km2” Inductive logic paired with pattern deduction yields “if A then D will occur” for me. A rigourous deductive logic axiomatic proof that A leads to D is to me akin to “men pissing in the wind”.

    Moi, I very strongly doubted that the million km squared scenario would happen in 2015. I also tend to doubt it will happen this September of 2016. An ice-free 2017 or 2018 are quite possible however for this rank amateur to imagine. For the maximum sea ice this year had a very early and small plateau. It crept back up in places where it will melt very fast while creeping a little down in places of traditionally thicker ice the last few weeks for that plateau. But in the end, the decreasing volume is key and the evolving transition from the centuries old salt-depleted multi-year ice to salty single year ice is the trigger.

    It will be an interesting year, if we still have one left. For the short term I and a mentally challenged individual-friend I transport will be looking closely for when the geese come back. I was struggling to figure out how they arrived up here before the ice on the Red River and the Assiniboine River open up, but the tiny Seine River here opens up first and the first few honkers headed up Hudson Bay way lodge there in small open pools. Beauty, eh.

  • 44 south ~

    interesting story on your experience with The Book, and what you tried to do with making some connections who you could share your experience with.

    “The great difficulty, it seems to me, is getting past the petty prejudices and differences to the divine.
    That problem is regularly demonstrated on these pages.”

    thanks for that good laugh. :)

    The Book is another rediscovery in the long tradition of Perennialism.

    “Perennialism is a perspective within the philosophy of religion which views each of the world’s religious traditions as sharing a single, universal truth on which foundation all religious knowledge and doctrine has grown. According to this view, each world religion, including but not limited to Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto, Sikhism, and Buddhism, is an interpretation of this universal truth adapted to cater for the psychological, intellectual, and social needs of a given culture of a given period of history. The universal truth which lives at heart of each religion has been rediscovered in each epoch by saints, sages, prophets, and philosophers. These include not only the ‘founders’ of the world’s great religions but also gifted and inspired mystics, theologians, and preachers who have revived already existing religions when they had fallen into empty platitudes and hollow ceremonialism.”


    the “petty prejudices and differences” are nothing of the sort, unfortunately. if one looks at the way these things work in practice, one sees warfare.

    this is a fundamental symptom, I think, of that overriding theme of arrogance that I was talking about earlier. our ideas about what we think “life is about” ~ materialist, capitalist, communist, socialist, atheist, Christian, Islamic, Jewish, New Age, WhateverTheHeck ~ are more important for us to fight over than the concern of actually staying harmoniously in balance, and successfully living life on planet Earth.

    the obviously clarifying aspect of NTHE is the realization that our overriding concern with these abstract matters is pretty much 100% completely misplaced.

    the fundamental concrete reality of staying alive, and in balance, on a thriving Earth rich with livable habitat?

    the concrete reality of “love thy neighbor” that allows humans to peacefully coexist?

    what I think is truly divine starts there.

    the conflict between what our abstractions, and our wars over abstractions, have given us ~ collapse, death and ultimate destruction ~ with what other approaches might have given us, will untangle knots for some.

    and looking at how these abstractions became so overriding ~ who benefits the most from this exercise? ~ will untangle other knots.

  • Sir James Goldsmith’s Prophesy

  • ‘Record demolition & displacement’: Israel razes dozens Palestinian homes in West Bank

    Israel has demolished at least 41 structures, including an elementary school, in one of the villages in the West Bank, leaving dozens of people homeless, the UN said. The current destruction trend is one of the highest on record in the West Bank since 2009.

    The latest demolition by the Israeli Civil Administration in Khirbet Tana, on the outskirts of Nablus city, “displaced ten families with 36 members, including 11 children, and affected the livelihoods of five additional families,” Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) for occupied Palestinian territory said in a statement.

    Khirbet Tana, a community of some 250 relying on herding and agriculture for their livelihood, is now left practically with no infrastructure. All in all, the destruction included 11 homes, five common bathrooms, one kitchen and 18 farming structures. Two traditional ovens and one solar system, all used for communal living were also destroyed.

  • ARTLEADS – the interview you posted above is interesting. Coffee on my boat thinking about how USA only has 313 million people now compared to the 4 billion in South East Asia he is talking about decades ago.

    Very hard for most people to fathom how everyone in North America and Western Europe barely add up to the first billion.

    Physicians for Nuclear Responsibility, have been trying to work with the NRC and others on a peaceful solution to extreme nuclear danger.
    Yet, Only a handful (Like Guy Mc Pherson) understand the exponential meltdown danger.

    Tiny silica crystals in all our bones are conductive. Therefore, V2K is a Nonlethal a neuro-electromagnetic device which uses microwave transmission of sound into the skull of persons or animals by way of pulse-modulated microwave radiation; and (2) a silent sound device which can transmit sound into the skull of person or animals. NOTE: The sound modulation may be voice or audio subliminal messages. One application of V2K is use as an electronic scarecrow to frighten birds in the vicinity of airports.

    Fun videos of how a monkey can drive a wheelchair using only it’s brain. A simple mass alteration of human minds could work wonders with just the right message. I wonder what Guy or MO or Nemesis would say if they had one specific message projected into everyone? The Technology is an open FACT….but what will we do with it as the Arctic time bomb ticks.

  • Mark: it’s the “doing” that got us into this predicament.

  • This song was Posted today on Ponziworld (thank you for it.. Ponziworld guy ) it has to be shared here as well

  • Mark ~

    “I wonder what Guy or MO or Nemesis would say if they had one specific message projected into everyone?”

    how about “whoever thought up and deployed this system of broadcasting one specific message into everyone’s head, find those people and kill them all. now.

    that might be a good start. :)

    One Message to Rule them All? I don’t think so. ;)

    really, in theory these ideas may sound useful or helpful ~ maybe sort of like some kind of Emergency Broadcast System that is guaranteed to get through? ~ but any ideas about “a specific directed message straight into everyone’s head to influence the masses to a greater good” is in fact probably one of the most horrifying concepts I can imagine.

    a small group of humans engineering a large group of humans is kind of the root of our problem, I think.

  • Second part of this weeks “Vice” program about the end of water

  • A lot of Jesse Ventura’s stuff is nonsense, but those of you who are interested in “artificial telepathy” should watch this. It’s Conspiracy Theory:Brain Invaders, in case the link doesn’t work.

    Best Wishes

  • Not looking good.

    2nd 14.478 millionkm2
    3rd 14.468
    4th 14.427

  • Thanks for the response Mo. I’ve got two great hopes for this end time, both may be delusional.
    The first is for a period of total freedom of thought, word and deed following a total breakdown of the controlling structures. I would like to be living among like minded people when and if that happens.
    My second hope is that the coming crisis will provoke a change in consciousness,primarily in myself but perhaps everyone.
    It all comes down to energy in the end. Profound insight requires great energy. I have very little at the moment, ending many days barely able to walk such is my workload, combined with my age and the heat. I’m skimming a lot of the philosophical stuff here these days.

    Wester reminded us of the need for courage. Before courage must come awareness, sensitivity and consideration or Anarchy falls at the first hurdle.
    When a new man here usurps an old hands name, has it pointed out, does nothing about it,and apparently wins others approval for it…that’s not Anarchy, that’s just chaos and bad manners!

    Hard for me to see the divine in that Mo.See what I mean about petty prejudices?

  • Hi Feed Jake,

    Jesse Ventura said, on his show, he has questions for Cheney about 9/11. Maybe as a consequence of that it seems he’s been painted as a lunatic fringe conspiracy nut. The few shows I’ve watched seem to be well researched and credible, or they will say they can’t form an opinion at other times. I recall that show you posted from a few years ago, and the cases they were researching were several years old at the time.

    I think that’s the same technology that is being rolled out in the supermarket in NZ now that Mark Austin is talking about.

    It’s been well tested apparently. Hmm, microwave towers. Not even necessary to use subliminal programming through smartphones.

    Here’s an alternative, although Harmonic Convergence didn’t seem to get the traction some people were hoping for those many years ago.

  • I like the poetry (“The cost of freedom from cultural shackles is great, and worth every penny.”)

    I did a bit of somewhat related prose (Choose Your Trances Carefully – 6).

  • @ Jimbot

    I may have sounded a little harsh about Jesse Ventura. Some of his stuff is really good. The problem is he throws legitimate stuff in together with things where he knows better–like repeatedly showing the “Mauntauk Beast” that turned out to be a decaying raccoon, which tainted his legitimate Plum Island story. All in all, I appreciate what he was trying to do. And that “Brain Invaders” is probably his best.

    More best Wishes, y’all!

  • 44 south ~

    “The first is for a period of total freedom of thought, word and deed”

    this is an interesting vision. total freedom of deed? like in the French Revolution, but multiplied by a few million? :)

    should one group of “like minded” people remove “the other group” because they aren’t seeing things in the same like minded way?

    “My second hope is that the coming crisis will provoke a change in consciousness,primarily in myself but perhaps everyone.”

    I am going to assume the “change in consciousness” would be the kind that prevents the above scenario. ;)

    “Before courage must come awareness, sensitivity and consideration or Anarchy falls at the first hurdle.”

    right now some Palestinians are choosing to act against their oppressors with long, sharp knives. this action has very powerful energy behind it. this action is extremely justified in the mind of the actor and their allies.

    in the minds of the attacked and their allies, these actions are seen as chaotic, and the worst kind of manners imaginable.

    where does revolution and violent resistance end, and anarchy begin? if true Anarchy were to be established, would the maintenance of Anarchy always be peaceful and nonviolent? what about the occasional sociopath born into this hypothetical world?

    “Hard for me to see the divine in that Mo.”

    in the words of one of our regular commenters here, the divine is not lumpy. the Palestinian plunging his knife into the neck of his oppressor is 100% an expression of the Divine.

    truly equal as an expression of the One as the Buddha sitting under his tree and getting some funny ideas about suffering and enlightenment.

    I don’t have a hard time seeing the divine anywhere, or in anyone. this gives me ultimate respect for all my fellow beings, and their beliefs and actions ~ including the Buddha, the enraged Palestinian, and every expression of the Divine One giving itself meaning. they are all equally important to the picture, and all equally worthy of love.

    love is infinitely powerful and inexhaustible. whatever paradox, injustice or prejudice may exist, can and will be sorted out, in whatever way is necessary, however long it takes, in the Light of Infinite Love.

    no worries. that’s what this place we live in is for.

  • Mo – “no worries. that’s what this place we live in is for.”

    Sometimes I think that if a person is not worried, they are fast asleep, not really conscious. Someone asked Gurdjieff what the purpose of life on Earth was? He answered that the Earth is a giant pain factory. Was he that far off? I know something about the Love that moves the stars, but what about the other stuff? Do we bail out on it, saying it’s not real?

    My own answer is that reality is really beautiful, but it also really sucks – at the same time!

  • thanks henry…long may you run…you too, lwa. hey mark, have you begun you’re expedition? i assume you’re in the atlantic, heading south? somebody post some mingus…

  • .

    @mike k

    Sometimes I think that if a person is not worried, they are fast asleep, not really conscious.

    Really? So total acceptance and absolute allowing, without any judgement or classification into yin or yang, good or bad, love or hate, hasn’t manifested in to you ever as an experience before, even temporarily?

    Those two vantage points eliminate worry almost entirely. Accepting that there is a good and natural reason for everything you experience in your life, and subsequently simply allowing all things to unfold naturally without any panic over the outcome. It seems to me that absolute trust in the universe and in natures plan and competency would be one of the hoped for attainments of most any spiritual path.

    To me, it’s the opposite of what you’ve stated. To worry is to accept indentured servitude out of worry over how one will be fed tomorrow (and therefore acquiescing to empire’s slavery in exchange for life, or so you presume), it’s to worry one hasn’t accumulated enough ‘survival stuff’ to stay alive, it’s to worry why something bad has happened to you and not to someone else, it’s to worry your own suffering might mean that you’re messing something up in your life, maybe something that the other fellow might have figured and you didn’t. Worry is to accept someone telling you that little imaginary brown people are going to come over the hill any day and take away you and your children and your way of life.

    Worry, worry, worry.

    Worry about food, worry about paying the bills, worry your kids might be disadvantaged because of you’re bad choices, worry that your $23 billion doesn’t stack up to that other guys $49 billion.

    Worry, worry, worry.

    Worry leads to our industrial civilization, in my view. Worry is the product of a purely materialist worldview. It’s fear, that’s what worry is. That’s also why worry is very knowingly marketed to us daily by the media (on purpose of course, sometimes obviously, sometimes subliminally.)

    Despite my crappy lame life, I try not to worry.



    Someone asked Gurdjieff what the purpose of life on Earth was? He answered that the Earth is a giant pain factory. Was he that far off?

    Well, the Dalai Lama says life is suffering, period. Maybe Gurdjieff saw life in a similar way. Who knows for them but them?

    What do YOU think the purpose is, that’s a more important question (and that can be a personal conviction you choose to keep to yourself too if you wish, it was more of a rhetorical question, since it matters not (to me) what Gurdjieff or you or the Dalai Lama think. What matters to me most is what I think. After all, I’m not driving that other guys body around, I’m driving THIS body around. That other guys ideas are mostly only pertinent to him and his life, which isn’t all that likely to be identical to my life and my journey here in any way. That’s why I’m skeptical of the requirement for guru’s)

    My own answer is that reality is really beautiful, but it also really sucks – at the same time!

    There you go, so why do you worry about it? What does your worrying get you?


    To not worry doesn’t mean to not have a problem, to not suffer doesn’t mean to not have strife. To not worry or suffer is an attitude about external things, and it’s the only part of the equation that you can subjectively control anyway, and doing so can literally work miracles (controlling or conquering your worry that is.)

    Some people rationalize that worry is productive in that it stimulates activity and creates propulsion in our lives. Sure, that’s a fine materialist perspective, that’s why worry is actually quite normal and seems rational to the materialist perspective. However, this conversation was leaning toward a metaphysical perspective, and in that context, I think I’m fully understanding mo’s assertion here why he doesn’t worry. If mo’s been shown something (which can be quite different from just reading works written BY the people who have been shown something) then why would he worry? And more to the point, how could his overcoming the of fear of living in a world of suffering be seen as sleeping? That’s a huge attainment and the entry point to manipulating quantum reality adeptly.

    To me, the people in fear (of anything at all) are the one’s who are sleeping. I get mad and stamp my feet sometimes down here on earth because I get pissed at the stupid ‘select all’ life I chose for myself (just like how I’m sure the Dalai Lama doesn’t enjoy getting a stomach ache.) But, ultimately, and at the end of the day, I try to accept and allow and just let the whole experience be what it is. I certainly make my utmost effort to not worry though, worry is a particular killer on the quantum aspects of earthly experiences, at least that’s been my personal experience with the quantum. I think Job would agree too. The Tao would as well, although those teachings came after the personal experience of all this for me. It was something that happened to me that showed me this, not reading about it that caused me to let go of many of my fears about existence. Although, it’s also a continual work, since there are no shortage of things to tempt one with fear and worry in this earthly life, that’s for sure. Living here is horrific.

    Ya, I agree with mo and Alfred E, Neuman … what me worry?

    So I just try not to worry. It’s not easy though, even after seeing the big picture and seeing how worry is almost the whole nut of it.


    Do we bail out on it, saying it’s not real?

    I think I’m getting one of the disconnects that happen here when people like batman try and discuss the fluidity and malleability of a quantum universe. Some people hearing this seem to think they are being told to FORGET about the material reality we subjectively perceive before us, as if they are being told it isn’t really there, so just disregard it, and that’s the point. No, that’s not the point at all.

    That’s stupid.

    Upon discovering the true nature of reality in a quantum universe the idea is to learn to CREATE it and BEND it into something you like rather than something you don’t like. Get it? The point is not that it’s here or isn’t, the point is that it’s fluid and malleable (and in more ways than just physical.) You’re being urged to GET A GRIP ON YOUR REALITY AND TO MANAGE IT, not to disregard it as something that isn’t even there and so forget about it.

    I really don’t get why this is such a big fog for people. This seems really obvious to me.

    It’s what the Tao said, it’s what Jesus said, it’s what Mohamed said, it’s what Moses said, it’s what the Egyptians said, it’s what the Yogis all said, it’s what the crop circles say. Hell, it’s even what your dog is trying to tell you if you’d listen to it. And this is what empire hid from you.

    I guess it just doesn’t make sense, any of these past teachings, until you experience it for yourself in the flesh. That’s what I think the problem is. Just like Feed Jake said earlier in this thread, this isn’t about belief, it’s about experience. Experiences quite beyond those that can be brushed off as being anecdotal anomalies or delusions or hallucinations.

    No, above anything else, I strive to not worry. Above anything else, that’s what I’ve learned here.

    That’s what LOVE actually means to me … to not judge anything as good or bad, to just LOVE it ALL … ONLY. As an experience.

    It’s all good. Even extinction and climate change, if that’s actually what’s even really happening here.

    You can discern, but it’s not wise to discriminate.

    And there’s a difference between flying and reading about flying. A gap the size of the universe, actually.

    And nobody is asking anyone to deny reality exists, just to learn how it springs into existence is all, and to manage that properly and conscientiously and most of all intentionally.

  • Yes. We could have the fascist states of trump. Our individual lives might be more immediately endangered (and that’s not a thing to take lightly), but we should perhaps be clear that not voting for Trump gets us into trouble too. A little more delusion time for us maybe. I wonder what others think about this?

  • @Bob S.

    Spiritual development for the masses of asses we call it.

    There are many ways, to steal the Spirit from the people. One way is organized, established religion. Another way is rude, PSEUDOscientific materialism. Yet another way is the socalled “New Age” stuff, where everything is mixed together, a bit from here, here bit from there. There is a lot of money and confusion in the New Age Market.

    But there are ways, that are still untouched by capitalism and rude materialism. Nature can still give us a sense of Spirit and Unity with the Universe. Art is still a very good way, to get into contact with the Spirit. When you write poems, then you are a spiritual man. Or just being alone and silent for some days can bring us into contact with the Spirit inside. Being with a person, who is in the process of dying, can bring us into contact with the Spirit. Children can bring us into contact with the Spirit. When I look into a human face, I see the Spirit, the source of the Universe. When I look at a tree, I see the Spirit. We don’t need any Bible or the Veda or other clever books, to realize and get into contact with the Spirit, that is within all things and beings.

    When you feel great Astonishment and appreciation and passion and commitment to the miracle of life and death, of people, plants and animals, the sun, the moon, the stars, then you are in contact with the Spirit. What have you, if can’t feel all that? Nothing.

    Spiritual Truth can be very simple, it does not need any great esoteric secrets and blabla, it can be extremely simple:

    The flower sermon

    In the story, Śākyamuni gives a wordless sermon to his disciples (sangha) by holding up a white flower. No one in the audience understands the Flower Sermon except Mahākāśyapa, who smiles. Within Zen, the Flower Sermon communicates the ineffable nature of tathātā (suchness) and Mahākāśyapa’s smile signifies the direct transmission of wisdom without words. Śākyamuni affirmed this by saying:

    I possess the true Dharma eye, the marvelous mind of Nirvana, the true form of the formless, the subtle [D]harma [G]ate that does not rest on words or letters but is a special transmission outside of the scriptures. This I entrust to Mahākāśyapa.

    Jung and Kerényi demonstrate a possible commonality in intent between the Flower Sermon and the Eleusinian Mysteries:

    One day the Buddha silently held up a flower before the assembled throng of his disciples. This was the famous “Flower Sermon.” Formally speaking, much the same thing happened in Eleusis when a mown ear of grain was silently shown. Even if our interpretation of this symbol is erroneous, the fact remains that a mown ear was shown in the course of the mysteries and that this kind of “wordless sermon” was the sole form of instruction in Eleusis which we may assume with certainty.

  • Yes Mo, your assumption the second hope gives the first a good outcome is correct. I’m damn sure nothing else would or will!
    However my “deeds” were of a much more modest nature than punishing those supposedly responsible for our “difficulties”. More like freedom to build and grow what you wanted. Live how you liked.
    I confess that despite the reading, the listening and the psychedelics,the fact that EVERYTHING may be the divine at play is not a reality for me. No problem with the Palestinian with his knife being such, but all the unspeakable evil in the world?
    And I want better behavior from those who claim some intimate relationship with the divine. Less temper,ego,whatever; just like I want the anarchist to be aware, sensitive and considerate. All totally unreasonable I know.
    So I wait and watch and try to make a suitable response to what life dishes up. Not much of a plan, but it’s all I got :)

  • @Henry

    Respect for your Music. You do the real thing, we got Music, so fuck it! Keep on rockin!

    @mo flow

    Thank you so much for Ben Webster and Oscar Peterson, GODLIKE. There I hear the Spirit, there I see the Spirit, when they play, in their faces…

  • The End of Society Simulator


  • GATT indeed has released an enormous uncontrollable beast. As @Kevin Moore points out it will just take time for the particulates to drop from the air and the w/m2 will amplify the aftermath of burning. It must be very important stuff they haul, perhaps canned food & cheap labor clothes, coffee and lots of waste rice that the locals didn’t want to buy for it’s known origins and sold cheap to the wicked merchants who think they made a great deal laughing all the way to the bank; logistical genius.

    One has to look no further than the derivatives market to understand that the free market is locked in. Deutsche Bank has for example 64 trillion euro locked in, what amounts to the whole work working for free for 1 year. So it will expect the products to enter into the market at higher value and wait for the dices to hit the hard 8, nothing can change the pattern of the past they gamble; addicts first class. Although much is invested in foreign currency it could wipe out the entire financial system, by people that just push buttons, running some excel sheets, live like kings causing wipeouts for many, the foundation of our societies. While the buffelo beasts operate heavy machinery and would rip off their heads if they would know. And that is just one of the banks that are

    “too big to fail”.

    Debts made
    the old death-grip,
    no way back,

    work harder
    take more debt
    the future is bright
    eating the shite

    we’ll make it
    because we are “smart”
    better, superior

    Dust-bowl on horizon
    system that does not
    yet must
    as law itself be invalid

    The frog understanding
    waited too long
    can only accept
    prior to intersect

    Do we change? Any change will be a lie but perhaps the lifeboats we now set out will be sustainable but as we see the ship sinking will there be a vessel nearby to pick us all up in the middle of the ocean. Hopefully the mayday call was broadly casted in a language the Saviour understands & dignifies lest we fell by pride and renders us wicked. Women and children first was of old, now the so called best and brightest? lol.

  • Mark Austin….

    Your continued prancing, bobbing, weaving and positing is all form and no substance. Why are you never able to arrive at *any* substantive conclusion regarding anything you appear to be sharing? You would appear to be a virtual Mobius Strip not unlike a snake eating it’s tail.

    Your thoughts? (were you to actually have any that were even vaguely intelligible or conclusive)

  • I have to say, I was surprised to see mr. Beckwith getting so quickly viewers. Would quicker retraction based on AIRS have given him a following is debatable. Patience has it’s downs too.

  • @Henry:

    NBL already has a commenter called ‘Henry’ who has been posting for years, although sporadically of late. You may have missed the posts in which he acknowledged your arrival, and attempted to clear up any confusion that might occur henceforth as to whether the source of comments under the name ‘Henry’ was him or you?

    He was pretty cool about it, but your silence on the issue effectively forced him to change his name to ‘Henry (the original)’ I imagine most people would consider that in that situation, the onus was on you to modify your moniker?

    Just sayin…. ’cause, you know, as an analogy, if I get vibes and daggers from all over the gig, I’m glad of someone to tell me it’s because I keep blowing that F over the C Major chord…


    Don’t take this the wrong way- just sharing ‘The Jazz Robots’ ’cause they crack me up. You probably met them somewhere already! … Many vids on utube- here’s an example:

  • @ LWA

    If you notice, we’re all pretty much saying the same thing. Too bad words are grossly inadequate. Mo quotes Casteneda sometimes. I remember something like “your rational mind feels compelled to take on a job that is far too big for itself.”

    By the way, thanks for helping with Bud. I was naive, and thought he really wanted to listen and think. All he really wanted was to enlarge his already bloated ego.

    Best Wishes, always

  • There is infinite power in letting go, fearlessly sitting back and letting extinction happen, as it becomes the only sure way to rid our beautiful planet of the embedded corrupt. I can live, briefly, with that.

  • @ Nemesis

    You nailed it again. Great Alan Watts clip!


  • gosh…must have stepped on some toes…well, overcrowding won’t be a problem much longer…

  • at least i can hear the crickets.

  • @ mike k & LWA

    Thanks for the interesting discussion. This hits on a (actually “the”) major life interest of mine. What to do with the experience of life. I’m now in my late 60s and the experience has definitely mutated from what it was in my childhood, adolescence and early adulthood. Never had any “transcendental” type experiences (I don’t discount them); well, one time when I was smoking something I sort of popped in and out of myself – mostly just enjoyed watching my mind go by, but I’ve always felt that consensual reality is weird enough that there’s no need to go looking for additional weirdness outside or around the edges of it. (Actually, I’d be a little surprised if there was anything weirder out there.)

    Mike’s question “Do we bail out on it, saying it’s not real?” occurs to me from time to time. Bailing seems kind of like going to a party and doing your damnedest to pretend you’re not there. Maybe the question is “do I want to be at this party, or am I just stuck here”. My childhood/adolescence/early adulthood experience was definitely the “stuck here” variety generally speaking, but with some pretty fantastic stuff thrown in along with the varying degrees of wretchedness. That’s probably pretty typical of human beings. I’m sure there’s somebody out there who would tell me that it was all very necessary; and I’m sure there are still a few numbers on my “wretchedness ticket” waiting to be punched.

    I’ve gradually evolved from there to my current place, which I guess I sort of appropriated from Joseph Campbell with his remark “It is a wonderful, wonderful opera — except that it hurts”. [ ] Literally. A character improvising his/her role in an ongoing story in stead of an animal stuck in a cage.

    I don’t know that one state is better than the other, though I have no intention of trying to get back into the cage. Maybe “next time around”. The “trapped” scenario is very vivid, intense, and “real” and maybe from some perspective, the important part. Where I’m at now seems kind of cowardly, but I’ll take it. At the core of one, not being in control and at the core of the other, being in control.