America’s Embrace of Stupidity: The thinking behind my novel about why we avoid thinking

by Scott Erickson

In my satirical novel Invasion of the Dumb Snatchers, Miles Bennell saves America from intelligence.

Of course, the story isn’t just fictional. In real life, all kinds of people are trying to save America from intelligence.

This country is facing some incredibly huge and challenging problems. It will require a lot of intelligence to solve them.

And consider that many Americans consider Donald Trump to be the best candidate to lead this country through these challenging times. Consider that the other candidates are following his lead, and have turned the presidential election—especially for the Republican Party—into a contest of who can be the most stupid.

The powers that be

It should be obvious that “the powers that be” don’t want a population of thinkers. In Aldous Huxley’s book Brave New World Revisited, he outlined the very brief history of an organization called the Institute for Propaganda Analysis. The institute was formed in 1937, as a result of Nazi propaganda. The idea was to teach students the critical thinking skills that would allow them to analyze and debunk the propaganda. The problem was that when the United States entered the war, the government didn’t want anybody questioning our propaganda.

But even before that, there was a lot of resistance to the organization. Teachers didn’t want students who questioned what they were being taught. The military definitely didn’t want soldiers questioning their officers. The church didn’t want people questioning the authority of the church. And corporations didn’t want people questioning the claims of their advertising.

Basically, those in power don’t want people under their power asking too many questions. It might threaten their power. Or more to the point, it might threaten the benefits that come with that power.

It’s not just “the powers that be”

Of course, “the powers that be” have reasons for us to be stupid.

But what about the rest of us? Why are the presidential candidates with the most stupid answers being rewarded with the most votes?

There’s more to it than the powerful oppressors fighting to keep us stupid. We—at least a significant portion of “we”—seem to prefer it.

Why else would so many Americans actively oppose the teaching of critical thinking courses in schools?

It’s important to note that not only “the powers that be” were opposed to the Institute of Propaganda Analysis. Parents were also concerned that children with critical thinking skills might threaten parental authority. Consider: What if children came home from school demanding that their parents justify the reasons for what they did?

It gets personal

Thinking can be dangerous. It might lead us to radically question our lives—to radically question the ideas that we’ve based our lives on.

Thinking can be dangerous “existentially.”

But it can also be dangerous in more “tangible” ways. We might ask questions about our culture that our culture doesn’t want to answer. We might ask questions that get us in trouble with “the powers that be.”

Also, thinking might cause us to admit we’re wrong.

I recently read an interview with film director Adam McKay, recounting a hilarious conversation with somebody trying to argue that the United States has the best health care system in the world. Facts made absolutely no difference as the other person just came back with arguments that got increasingly stupid to the point of absurdity.

I’ve been part of many similar conversations about things like the need to end our dependence on fossil fuels.

It’s identical to what happens if you try to convince an alcoholic to admit they’re an alcoholic. And for a very good reason: In both cases, you’re trying to talk somebody out of an addiction.

Similar arguments occur with a variety of topics. Such as the need to create a post-consumer economy that’s not dependent on eternal growth on a finite planet.

But such proposals generally aren’t even acknowledged. And if they are, they’re shouted down. Why?

Protecting the Ego

Stupidity is increasing. And I think the basic reason is that we need to resort to increasing stupidity to avoid fixing the results of prior stupidity. Or to put it another way, we need stupidity to stay in denial.

The human race has done some really stupid, egotistical things. Such as steadily destroying the ability of the planet to support life. Such as creating an economic system dependent on that destruction to keep from collapsing. If we were smart, we’d go about changing these stupid things.

But that would be a threat to the idea that we’re not the most important thing in the universe. And it would be a threat to the so-called “benefits” of acting on that idea. So we’re forced to defend our stupidity with increasingly stupid excuses and rationalizations.

I really do believe that we’re in a race between intelligence and stupidity. And I’m not very optimistic about how intelligence is doing.

What do we do about it?

There’s the million-dollar question. How do we use intelligence against a force that resists intelligence? Or in other words: How do we fix stupid?

I only have one very personal answer: Mockery.

Since my thing is humor and satire, I wanted to figure out how to represent this in a humorous and satirical way. The movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers has always been one of my favorites. The movie, which came out in 1956, inspired all kinds of theories about how the story was a metaphor for McCarthyism or post-war conformity.

Since the story deals with universal fears, so it can be interpreted in a variety of ways. So when I hit on the idea of twisting the story to be about stupidity, it was a natural fit.

Is mockery enough?

There’s plenty of satire out there, political and otherwise. Of course, it’s all (or mostly) a case of “preaching to the converted.” The people most receptive to it are those who least need to hear it. And the people that most need to hear it are those who most resist it.

But what else are you going to do? What good does a satirical novel do?

Well, probably about as much good as a well-researched non-fiction book full of facts and logic.

For both, the answer is: “Probably not much.” But as least it’s something.

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Scott Erickson
scott-erickson-writer@outlook.com
www.scott-erickson-writer.com

Scott Erickson is an award-winning writer of humor and satire. His books include the satirical novel The Diary of Amy, the 14-Year-Old Girl Who Saved the Earth, and the humor compilations The Navy Girl Book and The Best of Reality Ranch. He lives in Portland, Oregon, and describes himself as “possibly the nicest curmudgeon you’ll ever meet.”

He has recently published a satirical novel: Invasion of the Dumb Snatchers. It’s a twist on the classic Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The book explores the following question: If stupidity is at war with intelligence, what will happen if stupidity wins?

In the story, something is seriously wrong in America. Growing numbers of people are embracing sustainability, efficiency, common sense, and economic sanity. Only one man knows what’s really happening. Only Miles Bennell, assistant manager at Burger King, knows that aliens are replacing our bodies with exact duplicates.
The book is available via amazon.com.

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  • Wasn’t Einstein as quoted, “The two infinities he was aware of, was the universe and human stupidly, he wasn’t sure about the first, but overwhelming evidence of the second:.

    bkpr

  • Great afternoon reading as part of the SHUT IT DOWN movement. Stay home read a book, talk to your neighbors do not spend money feeding the owners. SHUT IT DOWN!

  • Many here will surely want to liberally, personally attack Richard Reese, author of What Is Sustainable and several related books, for writing the book review copied below—and me of course for posting it here. (See http://wildancestors.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-natural-west.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WhatIsSustainable+%28What+Is+Sustainable%29 .) Along with many books on anthropology, the review and book challenge many personal opinions strongly held by a large percentage of people here at NBL. For example “If our wild ancestors had possessed wizardly understanding, then pockets of humans would not have reduced carrying capacity via overhunting, leading to the catastrophe of agriculture, and the resulting population explosion.” In distinct contrast with this quote, many here wish to believe, among many other highly questionable things, that: (1) contrary to much strong and compelling anthropological and ecological evidence, early humans in North and South America supposedly lived in peace and in ecological balance and harmony in an environmental Golden Age until recently when “the whities” arrived. (Presumably if any mere scientific evidence challenges any traditionally held, ancient beliefs, then, per many commenters here, that evidence obviously must be wrong, Wrong, WRONG, and the people who did the related research, which supposedly we cannot appropriately do regarding humans, are bad, Bad, BAD!) (2) Early humans had little or nothing to do historically with producing our many ecological crises. And, (3) it therefore makes good psychological, emotional, and practical sense to blame and rage at a small, recent, elite group of humans for the global, human-created, self-annihilation trap, thus we mere, weak victims can justifiably rationalize considering ourselves just that: self-righteous, poor, innocent, weak victims. (And do NOT make the mistake of challenging MY special, underdog, victim status!)

    For anyone new to this site, people commonly and freely DO that here at NBL: do their best to form in-group/out-group ad hominem attack clubs in order to gang up on and “kill” any outsider messenger, whether a commenter here or anyone referred to who has prominence and expertise in their field of study: anyone who brings any evidence that may challenge the predominantly Buddhist, anarchist, self-righteous victim beliefs commonly held here. If one does not have the emotional strength to withstand this kind of frequent verbal, emotional abuse and bullying, then that remains just tough—and in that case many here will not hesitate to attack you for your immature, childish lack of strength and lack of “maturity” to endure this kind of pathological abuse so common among so many anarchists. You should feel ashamed of yourself for your weakness! Ah the beautiful wonders of anarchism in which no rulers enforce any social, behavioral rules. How wonderfully we would all surely get along together if everyone would just adopt the fundamental, ruler-free, narcissistic, anarchist value that “MY way is the RIGHT way!” and behave accordingly! And always remember this basic anarchist principle: If anyone ever challenges you in any way, that gives you complete freedom verbally to attack and abuse them in any way that you may wish (and physically too, of course, if you think that you can get away with doing that without getting caught and punished). By the way, Derrick Jensen’s new, well documented, very revealing book on anarchism will probably go to press soon, and his new book on human supremacism has now been published. Many here, perhaps most, with their anarchist, often Buddhist-based, human-consciousness-supremacy beliefs will probably not like either of these books.

    Indirectly related to all of this, and no doubt further inflaming many here, perhaps especially the Buddhists, some may have an interest in this 24-minute Susan Johnson talk about attachment theory and emotion-focused therapy, quite dramatically proven highly effective by many clinical outcome studies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ejp4OAk7Oo . But who gives a damn about scientific clinical outcome studies? One might think that a group of people who strongly believe we have little time remaining would have an equally strong interest in how we can have higher quality, more loving relationships among ourselves during our final years. Paradoxically, not so here. Per the often religion- or “spiritual consciousness”-based pronouncements of many allegedly infallible authorities about such things, here, we need to remember that we supposedly cannot study humans using natural scientific processes and principles. Regarding humans, we supposedly best rely on “ancient wisdom”. With an extremely convenient scientific double standard embraced to protect one’s personal opinions about “non-physical consciousness” and other alleged “non-physical realities”, while we presumably can use natural science to study chaotic, complex global warming and ecological collapse issues, we CANNOT, SHOULD not, MUST not use any science that might challenge any of our favorite beliefs about ourselves in particular, our favorite group(s) of humans, or humans in general.

    Thursday, May 5, 2016, by Richard Reese

    The Natural West

    Dan Flores is an environmental historian. His book, The Natural West, focuses on the region of the Great Plains and the Rocky Mountains. This ecosystem has been radically changed in the last 300 years, and a number of these changes have resulted in irreversible degradation. Flores has a misty vision of restoring the West, and his work explores issues that contributed to ecological imbalances. We can’t address challenges that we don’t understand.

    At the time Flores was writing, many green thinkers were indulging in a fantasy that imagined an environmental Golden Age, when the continent had no scars from human activities. Native Americans lived so lightly that they left almost no footprints. Flores was among the scholars who questioned the fantasy. What happened to the mammoths, mastodons, and camels? Where are the wooly rhinos and saber-toothed cats?

    He noted that many ecosystems were altered by the Indian practice of periodic burns to control the growth of brush, and to maintain grassland habitat that was ideal for bison. In The Ecological Indian, Shepard Krech wrote that some of these fires grew too large and killed entire herds of animals. Flores didn’t mention the “buffalo jumps,” where herds of bison were driven off the edge of cliffs. Of course, far more impact was caused by the technologically advanced settlers. Never before, in North America, have a group of humans wrecked so much, so quickly.

    Obviously, we would not be where we are today if hunter-gatherers possessed a level of ecological knowledge that a small herd of ecology experts now have (and the vast herd of consumers really need). If our wild ancestors had possessed wizardly understanding, then pockets of humans would not have reduced carrying capacity via overhunting, leading to the catastrophe of agriculture, and the resulting population explosion.

    Some Western Indians were bison hunters for more than 8,000 years. Bison can zip along at 35 miles per hour (56 km/h). On the wide-open prairie, sneaking up on a herd unseen, unheard, and unsmelled, required remarkable stalking skills. Then, Spaniards brought domesticated horses to the New World. Over the next 200 years (1680–1880), more than thirty Indian groups adapted horse-propelled bison hunting, which made it much easier to get lots of meat. This very unusual era was recorded by white painters, and it has become a common perception of traditional Native American life.

    Plains Indians imagined that there were infinite bison, it was impossible to deplete their numbers. Herds had been boosted by the cooler wetter climate of the Little Ice Age (1550–1850). Then, the shift to a warmer dryer trend reduced vegetation growth, which reduced carrying capacity for bison. Meanwhile, the horse population exploded, and horses competed with bison for the same vegetation. Among the many unwelcome gifts brought by settlers were bovine diseases like anthrax.

    The Gold Rush migration of 1849 brought cholera, which triggered a diarrhea rush, killing many natives. By 1850, there were many reports of starving Indians. Comanches were eating their horses. Competition for bison and horses spurred tribal warfare between 1825 and 1850. Tribe raided tribe to snatch horses. (See Paul Shepard’s book, The Others, for an excellent discussion of the many problems resulting from animal domestication.)

    So, it turns out that bison herds were not infinite, and that horse-propelled hunting very likely did not have a rosy future, even if whites had stayed out of the West. The experiment was cut short by industrial bison hunting, which accelerated after the Civil War ended in 1865. It rapidly brought the species close to extinction.

    I learned a lot from the chapter on the settlement of Utah, which got little notice in my history textbooks. In the early years, Mormon society was strikingly un-American. Rights to water and forests could not be privately owned by individuals. They belonged to the entire community. Joseph Smith believed that animals had souls, as did the Earth. Farms were limited to 20 acres (8 ha) to discourage the emergence of wealth inequality.

    Unfortunately, their impact on the ecosystem was similar to American communities everywhere. Population quickly grew. Most of the forests around Salt Lake City were gone in just ten years, and not reseeded. Grassland was overgrazed. War was declared on “wasters and destroyers” (wild predators). When the transcontinental railroad was completed, many non-Mormons moved into Utah, accelerating the turbulence by increasing cultural diversity and economic competition.

    In 1896, when Utah was admitted as a state, they were required to Americanize. Polygamy was banned. Firewalls were erected to separate church and state. Utah leaped onto the free market bandwagon, and grew like crazy. Explosive growth was not kind to the ecosystem. Everyone agreed that overgrazing was dumb, but everyone disagreed on which animals were the problem (not mine!).

    Americans brought many exotic weeds to the West, causing immense irreversible damage. Cheatgrass displaced native vegetation across large areas. It created biological wastelands, since cattle and wild grazers would not touch it. Cheatgrass was highly flammable. After a fire, exposed soil was vulnerable to erosion and gullying. When it rained, the runoff of water was rapid, leading to sudden floods. By 1930, the risk of repeated floods forced the abandonment of thirteen Utah communities. In the 1930s, four Utah valleys that were once lush grasslands became barren dust bowls.

    Flores was raised in a Mormon household. He laments that this culture (like most Americans) perceives humankind to be the crown of creation. The Earth is merely a funky waiting room on the journey to paradise, and if we trash it, it doesn’t matter. Many in Utah, and other Western states, want federal lands returned to the states, so that resources can be profitably extracted, as quickly as possible, without the annoying restrictions of regulations (sorry kids). The culture is conservative, and environmentalists are not warmly welcomed. Growth is the god-word.

    Flores circles the word “animalness,” and suggests that it might aid the healing process. Behaving like the masters of the world has been very harmful to the planet. What might happen if we came to perceive humans as one animal among many, in a circle of equals? Many of the vital lessons in life are learned from mistakes. Flores serves readers a lavish banquet of eco-booboos. The West has been dying for 200 years. What should we do? What does “restore” mean? Is it possible? Are we willing to bury industrial civilization and get a life?

    Flores, Dan, The Natural West — Environmental History in the Great Plains and Rocky Mountains, University of Oklahoma Press, Norman, 2001.

  • I’m confused Bud Nye. You’re clearly a fan of Derrick Jensen, who routinely points out that our myriad predicaments arise from civilization. Yet you claim in your comment that humans, not civilization, are the problem. Please clarify.

  • Oh, God. We’re back to debunking that mythological myth of the Noble Savage, something that no one except the debunkers thinks is real.

  • A nice fellow, aged 61, I have known for over 30 years told me recently he has inoperable lung cancer, with a 30% chance of successful treatment via chemotherapy-immunotherapy prolonging his life: he has smoked most of his adult life.

    A nice planet, aged 4.5 billion years, I have known for over 60 years has been telling me for 30 years that it will exterminate humans if they keep abusing it; they keep abusing it.

    Daily CO2

    May 9, 2016: 407.66 ppm

    May 9, 2015: 403.35 ppm

    Up 4.31 ppm

  • Invasion

    The low winter sun streaks through the streets and the dry hedges and barren trees sport a maroon dust. The birds go batty in Appalachia, celebrating an early spring, and the traffic flows on with indifference. A creature trudges along the sidewalk, two legs, hair tangled in strands down to its calves, a wolverine face, wrapped in wool and deerskin, a tongue split into snakes. A man in a beard with a mushroom cap for a nose, goes up to it.

    You’re from the future, aren’t you, he asks? His voice is a squawk stuck in his nose. The creature spits, stinging the air, and the man hears something about the Orbitology. You’re a hermaphrodite with a womb in your armpit, he says, from a new orbit, I’ll bet. Let me take you to my place and we’ll start the human race all over again. Once we get going I’ll call you Eve. Call me Mada, I’m a bit mad, you know.

    I’ve studied mathematics, psychology and literature, says Mada. Two and two don’t add up, they’re just bipolar soliloquies. He tries to undress Eve but its clothes turn out to be its skin. Its womb oozes out four fleshy legs. Its arms and legs have starved themselves to death. If I suck your toes, he says, I’ll be endowed with artificial intelligence. Let’s see, your penis is a maroon sticky spear and your vagina is a hologram. Time to start a new species. He dives in!

    Mada gets dragged into a black hole and hears, what is time? It’s not a question seeking a definition of time, but a question concerning time’s mere existence. He ends up in the bathroom and Eve is sitting on the toilet sucking up the water through its anus. Suddenly its arms and legs come alive, subdue him, and pierce his heart with its penis. He loses consciousness and wakes up on the street where everyone is shooting at one another.

    What’s going on, Mada asks of a man in a suit and tie? At least we’re not shooting heroin, the man replies. Mada goes to a friend’s house where everyone is shooting heroin and watching ads for heroin on television. He leaves, goes to his favorite dive where all is normal. Flash floods on the TV, Irish whiskey, Irish beer, Irish blather and green badges worn by all. We don’t have to worry about climate change, Mada says, it’s green, it’s timeless.

    What’s timeless, his cronies demand? Is this another one of your twin soliloquies? No, the future doesn’t know what time is. We’re morphed into hermaphrodites with a syringe for a penis and a hologram for a vagina. You snorted up a whole gram without sharing it, they accuse? No, no, I’ll introduce you to Eve, a creature from the future, and he takes them back to his place, and there’s no one there. Yeah, yeah, they say, since there’s no time there, then there’s no one here or there.

  • Guy,

    Thanks for the request for clarification! Yes, I remain a big fan of Derrick’s, I have read most of what he has written, and I agree with him in many important ways–in most ways–just as I remain a big fan of yours, have read most of what you have written, and I agree with you in many (most) important ways. But, as you know, I work very hard not to think in all-or-none terms and to remain always open to the weight of the most reliable evidence we have available regarding any claims that anyone makes, changing my thinking as needed over time based on the weight of evidence and good reasoning about it. (To me, that serves as the single, most important characteristic of the processes of natural science in comparison with age-old, authority-based dictates.)

    To respond directly to your confusion, I simply do not agree with everything that Derrick writes and says, nor do I agree with everything that you write and say. Most? Yes. All? No. As I have written in several essays posted here over the past couple of years, per Daniel Kahneman (see his book Thinking, Fast and Slow) I view our self-annihilation trap through a much larger, longer-term frame than you and Derrick do (and one well supported by a number different lines of research, including a number of competent anthropologists). Viewed through this larger frame, yes, I agree in a sense that “our myriad predicaments arise from civilization”, but only in a narrow, limited sense. I see civilization as an agricultural-energy-supercharged variation on much older, earlier human energy-use themes, just as I see the more recent fossil fuel based industrial system as a further energy-supercharged variation on the agricultural energy use theme—and all of these as variations on systems ecologist Howard Odum’s Maximum Power Principle: biological systems making maximum use of the energy available, something humans, to the very best of our knowledge, have ALWAYS done, just as all ecosystems and species probably always have. For a very readable, easily understood, excellent development of these points, one can read Ian Morris’ 2015 book Foragers, Farmers, and Fossil Fuels: How Human Values Evolve. I hope that I have resolved any confusion here. If not, please ask for further clarification.

  • Sometimes I love reading Robert Scribbler’s articles. Other times, like now, they make me choke. His latest article turns his blog into, essentially, a campaign advertisement for Hilary Clinton. He cautions against “cynicism” and recommends that we “hold her feet to the fire” on climate change.

    Hilary is bankism and financialization personified.

    As long as you have the current banking system, you’ve got more interest than principle. In order for people to repay their loans, they must convert low-entropy natural resources into product, heat and waste, with the product eventually becoming high-entropy heat and waste too. Borrowers can then use that product as collateral with which to take out more loans in order to get the currency to repay the interest on their original loans.

    The ultimate result is an economic demand for growth that grows ever more intense, with ever more low-entropy terrestrial stock converted at ever faster rates into high-entropy heat and waste so that people can have yet more loans in order to repay yet more interest.

    As Mike Ruppert says, “Until you change the nature of money, you can’t change anything.”

    So, my question for people here at NBL is: do you think Robbert Scribbler understands this, that is, that infinite debt can’t help but fuel the growth process until everything collapses? Either he does not understand 1) that primary process, or, if he does, 2) he fails to see how Hilary Clinton owes her primary allegiance to that process.

    Or something else altogether?

  • I’ll just throw in a couple random data-points here, since I’m usually such an ultimate pessimist about human behavior changing, and it’s a beautiful sunny day to go out exploring in my woods. (My behavior shifting: I’m hearing the birds this Spring like never before in my life. Where was I???)

    The “War on Stupid” is the one war, long overdue, that needed to be fought decades ago, and has not been anywhere near beginning. Full retreat. It’s as if Roosevelt and Churchill, and Eisenhower, looked at that blacked-out ooze of Nazism covering map of Europe, and winced, “Oh well. When’s my golf tee-off?”

    Some of us have figured out that our country-mates have no intention of pushing back effectively against that “occupation”. And have found other directions in which to turn our lives. No blame. Realism, but always keeping an eye open.

    Scott cites mockery, and some study of memes has been around for a couple of decades, at least. When Americans adopt a verbal expression, we do it with a vengeance. Of course, many of you “could care less.” Sheesh! (Goebbels got his training from the American advertising experts.)

    We tried that in the Peace Movement era, to get people to contemplate that they existed on the precipice of nuclear annihilation. And here we are today. Still rolling those dice with every day, and every crisis.

    I’ve seen two large, perhaps exemplary, changes during my lifetime.

    In the 1950s, Americans used to go out for a Sunday drive, throwing the newly-spreading McDonald’s wrappers and cigarette butts out the windows of their cars. Not sure if she was the prime mover on this, but Lady Bird Johnson’s highway “beautification” campaign was the point of inflexion that made that change stick.

    And smoking, didn’t it used to be around 70% of adults? Now down into the 20s, or lower? I remember my mother taking us to an afternoon matinee kiddies’ movie, all children with their mothers in the theater, and coming out smelling like an ashtray.

    Just sayin’… now get out there and listen to those birds. Isn’t there an app for that?

  • humans make up almost 100% of civilization.

  • lots of cats and dogs make up civilization too, but they let us do all the building…and pick up their crap.

  • Regarding Scribbler, I think I got banned from commenting on that website! Which, if I am not mistaken, puts me in some very prestigious company (Tom, Robin, Guy(?), others?). Why banned, you ask?

    A couple of articles back (“Warm North Pacific Winds…”), someone named Steven Blaisdell wrote & posted a very interesting comment about the seriousness of the events unfolding in the arctic. He finished his comment with this phrase: “the unthinkably fast and unstoppable disappearance of one of Earth’s defining mega-formations. And once the ice is gone…..” He was smart enough to stop there. He probably did not get banned. I thought I should finish his dot, dot, dot. Here is the comment that appears to have gotten me banned:

    “…all that energy, 80 calories needed to melt 1-gram of ice at 0C to 1-gram of water at 0C, starts going into the ocean. 80 calories of heat, applied to 1-gram of water at 0C, will heat that water to 80C. When the ice is gone, I think our situation is very serious.”

    Seriously. I brought up science. And got banned for it. A follow up comment would not appear. I emailed Scribbler asking if I had a comment “stuck in the filter”. Not even the courtesy of a reply.

    I am strongly INTJ. I connect dots & formulate my worldview based on taking in & integrating information from a wide range of sources. I have a strong science background. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how anyone could read the endless comments on Scribbler’s own site and come away with that level of optimism bias. And Hillary, according to Scribbler, “appears to be homing in on an issue that may well prove to be the weak underbelly of the republican party this year.” Right. She might use an issue, like climate change, to her advantage to win an election, but once in power she will do whatever serves her interests and the interests of those who put her there. And, guess what… solving the climate crisis is not on that list of interests. America. Fuck yeah.

    “We have become a nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world. A nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum. And that is how history will judge us. No redeeming social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or we’ll kill you.”

    – HST (rip)

  • @ Bud
    As far as I know, I’m the only avowed Buddhist here, though others may quote sutras or support my ideas from time to time. But it’s really an explanation of how I became a person who doesn’t give a shit about my ego, your ego, or the attachments that I or others have. But Bud, I sincerely wish you the best with whatever you are going after, as long as it does not infringe on others’ freedoms. Just think–you are perfect just as you are, and there is nothing to achieve.

    Best Wishes

  • The reptilian brain, much older in evolution, is nonverbal and irrational, the boss in the back seat of the limousine. It is associated with emotions (a short term phonomenon) and values (of much longer term). The mammalian/primate brain is more recent in evolution, is rational and verbal, and is in the driver’s seat of the limousine. It takes its orders from the reptilian brain, and when questioned, rationalises what it does.

    It is the intelligence in the mammalian brain that defeats conventional limits to biomass expansion by unconventional means to permit further HUMAN biomass expansion. The unconventional means are disruptive to systems including climate and ecosystems.

    From the Wikipedia (Fermi’s Paradox):

    It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy itself

    This is the argument that technological civilizations may usually or invariably destroy themselves before or shortly after developing radio or spaceflight technology. Possible means of annihilation are many,[65] including war, accidental environmental contamination, or poorly designed artificial intelligence. This general theme is explored both in fiction and in scientific hypothesizing.[66] In 1966, Sagan and Shklovskii speculated that technological civilizations will either tend to destroy themselves within a century of developing interstellar communicative capability or master their self-destructive tendencies and survive for billion-year timescales.[67] Self-annihilation may also be viewed in terms of thermodynamics: insofar as life is an ordered system that can sustain itself against the tendency to disorder, the “external transmission” or interstellar communicative phase may be the point at which the system becomes unstable and self-destructs.[68]

    It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy others

    See also: Technological singularity and Von Neumann probe
    Another hypothesis is that an intelligent species beyond a certain point of technological capability will destroy other intelligent species as they appear. The idea that something, or someone, might be destroying intelligent life in the universe has been explored in the scientific literature.[25] A species might undertake such extermination out of expansionist motives, paranoia, or aggression. In 1981, cosmologist Edward Harrison argued that such behavior would be an act of prudence: an intelligent species that has overcome its own self-destructive tendencies might view any other species bent on galactic expansion as a threat.[69] It has also been suggested that a successful alien species would be a superpredator, as are humans.[70][71]

    Intelligence As a Lethal Mutation

    Human intelligence and the environment


  • ” Intelligence is lethal”

    Hahahaha 😀 , that’s one of the very best “scientific” jokes I heard for a very long time! I put that into my NBL basket among “lying is good for survival” and “all humans have no free will, but they are all responsible”, gnahahaha. In Germany rhere is a saying:

    ” Sei schlau, bleib doof!”

    Translation:

    ” Be smart, remain stupid!”

    Wich reminds me of:

    ” IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH”

    – Big Bro in “1984”


  • And so The Prophet of Modern Science speaks:

    Brethren and sistren, there once was a time when the sacred Empire said “We will rule the Earth, we will rule the Universe through machines and miraculous buttons and slaves! But the New, the REAL Prophet says:

    Behold, for Dawkin’s and Darwin’s (un-) sake! It’s all wrong! The truth is, we are all bio-machines, bio-robots and the Holy Ghost of neverending scientifig enlightenment now preaches the REAL Truth:

    We are machines without any free will and we are fully responsible, because INTELLIGENCE is lethal! Yes, brethren and sistren! And civilisation is ALSO lethal! Yes, brethren and sistren- and therefore:

    Let’s just go extinct. That’s better for animals and plants.

    And so, the fate of Empire finally was fulfilled. Amen.

  • “All kinds of people are trying to save America from intelligence” — Guy McPherson

    Well, this reminds me of a book written by the latest American philosopher, prof. Allen Bloom: The Closing Of The American Mind.

    Yes, it is the bane of the present America that she has stopped thinking and started ‘intelligencing’ — becoming more and more smart and cunning. Yes,the present American systems are all machines without any free will and they are fully responsible, because INTELLIGENCE (pure logic) is lethal! “A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it.”, wrote the great Indian poet and Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore

  • Nemesis, here is some more science for you to call a lie since it contradicts the noble narrative. Don’t read it. You don’t need to when you “know” things. Climate deniers know things too don’t cha know. Not sure how all that filtering in the cranium works since I’m not a man of faith.

    Humans responsible for demise of gigantic ancient mammals
    Early humans were the dominant cause of the extinction of a variety of species of giant beasts, new research has revealed.

    “Known collectively as megafauna, most of the largest mammals ever to roam the earth were wiped out over the last 80,000 years, and were all extinct by 10,000 years ago.”

    http://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/featurednews/title_465673_en.html

    Bud has it right – the mostly human caused megafauna extinction is what led to industrial scale agriculture. They knew how plants worked and could have started anytime. Why would they want to? 15 hours of work a week and “sex at dawn” vs slaving in the fields, eating starch, patriarchy and human ownership? Necessity. The same thing happened in Australia and forced the aboriginals to learn to live another way. Necessity. Post hoc nobility.

  • @Bud, “…Buddhist, anarchist, self-righteous victim beliefs commonly held here”.. I hew to some Buddhist notions, and regard myself as an anarchist, but I don’t believe I’ve expressed victim beliefs, self-righteous or otherwise. You and Guy seem to kind of echo each other in anticipating “haters” and painting yourselves as victims. I wonder why either of you expend energy on this..? Sticks and stones… Sleep the sleep of the righteous instead, if you are of sufficient conviction.

    This citation is tendentious: “Obviously, we would not be where we are today if hunter-gatherers possessed a level of ecological knowledge that a small herd of ecology experts now have (and the vast herd of consumers really need). If our wild ancestors had possessed wizardly understanding, then pockets of humans would not have reduced carrying capacity via overhunting, leading to the catastrophe of agriculture, and the resulting population explosion.”

    This is the famous hindsight which is 20/20. The “catastrophe” of agriculture begins when? Native peoples everywhere practiced ‘agriculture’, although not in ways necessarily comprehensible to Europeans. Bill Mollison the permaculturist stated that “everything gardens”. All creatures seek to modify their environment to their advantage. No creature does not do this. Would you stop ants from farming aphids?

    Most (not all, but most) of the so-called “wizards” who -today- possess “a level of ecological knowledge” do the exact same thing as any of the stupid and ignorant: they fly on planes and birth babies, drive cars to jobs, use computers, etc. Most young “permaculturists” can’t wait to start families.

    http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/store/add.php?iid=1323


    @John Muthukat, that is a very interesting quote, however, the things that happen “according to” logic do not happen *because* a human is able to analyze them using that tool after the fact; they still happen to us whether we are professors or morons. Here there seems to be an unjustified assumption that observation is the cause of what is observed.

    Intelligence is lethal.
    Stupidity is lethal.
    Life is lethal.


    @islandraider, yes, it seems the INTJs like you and me are a tiny minority. Maybe Guy is in this group? Easy for us to connect the dots. But once one has connected the dots, I think one can also see that people are not going to change: they are not going to all-of-a-sudden be different from how they are by dint of political or religious exhortations. “We” can be upset with “them”, and “they” with “us”, and the upshot of all that is just wasted energy and angry feelings. Whether you understand the optimism bias or not, it is here with us, and gives most of us an evolutionary advantage.

    Humans and all creatures look for ways to maximize the amount of energy they can capture, for their own benefit, and to turn into more of themselves. No species to my knowledge violates this rule. It is as useless to bemoan this general process* as it is to bemoan a rock rolling downhill. [*There will always be outliers and misfits who, for whatever reason, are imperfect in their execution of this overall tendency.]

    ==============================
    I think people are getting very mixed up. First of all, “intelligence” is something only half the people have an above-average amount of, by definition. Other aspects of defining “intelligence” seem rather lacking in this essay and, in all NBL comments I have seen, the grasp of the effects of this endowment is poor. In many cases, the more “intelligent” among us in Western terms have been responsible for the greatest breakdown of energy gradients, while in other cases the most “stupid” may do us the same service.

    Who is to blame? The ‘smart’ Hillary, who destroys countries for breakfast the way Bruce Jenner once ate Wheaties? Or the ‘dumb’ Trump with his outlandishly-extravagant developments, promised cross-continental wall, and NASCAR followers burning gas just because they can? The “smart” Oppenheimer? The “dumb” GWB? The one Westerner with 10x the average consumption, or the the third-worlder with 10x the offspring? The answer seems to be… both: whoever *doesn’t* propose wasting amounts of energy out of all proportion with the concept of an energy ‘budget’ is unlikely to be elected to any office down to the level of dogcatcher or to be given any degree of responsibility, and in fact is unlikely to be terribly popular on an informal basis even in small hick town. 99% of those I personally know—left or right, dumb or smart—complain about the state of things but they all want to double down on expenditures for their pet causes.

    Smart or stupid, most people will choose the way of greater energy consumption. Remember the hated Jimmy Carter, with his wussy sweater and the turned-down thermostat of a clear loser? Humans are just animals, and many animals turn on others of their kind who show weakness. Relinquishing power or potential power = an actionable weakness. Thinking is a luxury. Cunning is a necessity. [Now I am sounding like B9K9!]

    People who claim greater “intelligence” than the rest are asking people to defy the laws of nature. How “intelligent” can that actually be?

    The Irish elk’s antlers grew so large they became a handicap to sheer existence. Intelligence had nothing to do with it. Biological creatures follow rules of turning surplus energy into social displays. The opposite sex will want to breed with those exhibiting a surplus. Some “indigenous” (i.e., earlier-immigrating) peoples held potlatches where the point was giving the most away or destroying the most in the form of symbolic copper icons. I used to wonder why I felt compelled to give the most expensive gifts—more expensive than anything I would buy for myself—to my friends and family who were already the richest. I don’t wonder about that any more.


    Re: Mocking. As a generally-cynical person, I mocked day and night. I think there is a lot to mock. But my feeling is that we have passed Peak Mockery. One can only mock from a position of some security, I reckon, and I’m not sure who among us can claim that these days.

  • @Nemesis, some people here say there is no free will, and other people say humans are separate from Nature, bear unique responsibilities, and are theoretically responsive to politically- and religiously-based exhortations that will set them on the straight and narrow path. I don’t personally think these two positions can logically be held simultaneously. Please explain why you have chosen to make me the poster-child for that impossible stance, because I don’t believe it can be extrapolated from anything I have written. If you can show me where I have crossed that line, I would be happy to know it.

  • Intelligence is based on commitment & perception = torment. Stupidity does not exist; it merely lacks commitment and one surrenders to safety: physical and/or emotional.

    It’s not how much you know that defines intelligence; it is how you interlink: build bridges where none existed. 99% of the “smart” people just summarize others; monkey see, monkey do. I think you should focus on moral values and ethics as it defined cultural heritage beyond our own lives. The strife towards control & delusions of power brought the downfall of mankind, not stupidity.

    Contemplate righteousness (using historically obtained wisdom) to be the foundation, it is my view that it alone would have enabled us to maintain stability in growth.

  • There are two absolutely enormous cruise ships in dock. Glowing in the gloaming.
    Their decks are strung with lights in the evening light and there is a huge tv screen visible on the top deck – outside.
    The sky behind is a complicated almost rorschach
    of red pastel streaks.
    The tell tale sign of fires somewhere far away.
    Of trees burning.

  • This catastrophe of world-wide forest fires would demand a quarter century of growth UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS to replace even medest-sized trees: with present conditions, a tree that is gone can be counted as gone for the observer’s lifetime. There will not be enough regrowth for another forest fire of like intensity.

  • Maybe I’m stupid or maybe not. I think the solution to the climate crisis and human stupidity in reckless destruction of the environment is to have no solution at all. Let’s just go full steam ahead and keep the plates of civilization spinning in the air for as long as possible and let nature bat last and put an end to it. I say this because that’s the way our bodies work. They give us life until they can’t. We live and we die when the body can no longer keep on keeping on, and I view industrial civilization the same way. It will keep us alive, fat and happy until it can’t.

    Scientist James Burke did a TV show called connections among other shows. In one of those shows, he talked about technological traps we got ourselves into because there is no good way to go back to the old way of doing things, so we are stuck with what we have created and that’s that. We can’t go back, so I say let the party go on until all the guests leave by meeting their end.

  • Another brilliant, honest thought provoking post from Guy has attracted the total Spectrum.
    Great reading! Thanks to all contributors adding each shade of color. And many shades of grey and black
    The ground-breaker for me….. is the “you tube video’ post @Bud Nye by Sue Johnstone (DON’T MISS THIS VIDEO).
    Thank you for this Bud…it shows us the art of love from a science perspective in the modern age… Brilliant. The part of the video that really got me was when she said that rejection is the same level of pain as having your foot nailed to the ground, wow! And we cannot escape. I can relate to that.
    I would add to that, my level of abuse was such(when I was a boy) that every time that I got rejected I have felt that same pain that was experienced way back then…(ouch!)over and again and again, and I did not know why I reacted. Thankfully my wife has helped me recover, and I am mostly better, a lifelong journey with a little help from a loved one.

    Is not our civilisation or (as some say our humanness) a metaphor for the alcoholic, a guy suggests in his post
    The alcoholic will drink, medicate with whatever, unaware that they are sick, and continue to medicate until they are at breaking point or death.
    Generally the alcoholic will have an awakening at some point, and realise they have to front up to their denial and the only choice is to stop drinking. The ones that don’t stay in the pain and misery of active alcoholism, some never make it most who don’t get it die from it
    The ones that do get sober are confronted with themselves, and will need to get to the source of the wounds that they were trying to bandage, and deal with the pain and rejection un-medicated, learn to love themselves again, feel safe and to be able to make others feel safe enough to love again

    To quote Guy “Only Love Remains”

  • I look forward to Corey Morningstar.

    For once, the comments here have distilled into something interesting.

    I try to avoid the bully cliques like the plague.

    Lidia’s comment on Elk antlers use of energy for sexual display was excellent. The antlers become unwieldly for survival outside of sex.

    I wonder if religion = art = sex displays.

    I have to go cut grass today, I don’t really want, I want to sit around and think about bullshit all day. Oh well.

    If you have enough extra energy to think about God, philosophy and the ludicrous idea that we have no free agency, then we are just like that overly laden elk. As for the noble savage crap, the Aztecs used to sacrifice people and eat them. Technological civilization began 2 million years ago with flint knapping.

    People all over the world, throughout history believe in 2 things, money and god, but both those things are not real, we just made them up to help us cope.

    They are art, just like dumb blondes, good in bed and non-threatening.

    As for Derrick Jensen, he’s a whack job exhorting violence.

    I have been a pacifist and atheist all my life, and will continue until 1 second before I die, then I will beg God’s forgiveness and punch him in the face.

    As for Robert Scribbler, he’s a complete asswipe. He’s a wannabe writer, like most who comment here, and writer’s are by their very nature egomaniacs.

    If the War On Stupidity goes like any of our other wars, then we’re fucked.

    http://wordpress.com/post/lokisrevengeblog.wordpress.com/2

  • Sure I’m a bully, a loner bully, stupidity wins. cheers.

  • Just Saying..@ Henry
    Im with you man.. lets get out there and listen to the birds.
    In fact, lets take a whole tribe of kids out there..sleep beside the river and look under rocks and see whats under there..another cosmos and dreamworld could be found in a child’s mind.

  • John Muthukat
    mmm I like that … “A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it.”, wrote the great Indian poet and Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore. It sums up the view that intelligence is there for the making of money. People go to college to
    “get a good paying job/career”… etc… well, I can not be accused of that!… I always did what I love… more or less… I mean… I wasn’t even CAPABLE of doing something because it made a lot of money… I’m not that disciplined… I can only do what I like or love… Be it working with race horses for 8 yrs in my twenties.. (my first career dream from reading Black Stallion books at 10 years old)… to going to finish a B.S. in Psychology after I grew up a little more… wanted to be a Ph.D but… didn’t understand about borrowing money to go to college further… the B.S was paid for by my working and paying as I went… 55-65.00 a credit… mmmmmm
    So, then, years working in special ed… Autistic children mostly.. then a job coach, helping people with disabilities find and keep work. I do have something else I do…. on the side, ( but need to do it full time)… but, I won’t go into that yet…but, that is my next … goal.. my real true love… I am 58.. and as Guy says, do what you love… so I have already made changes so I could do just that … will retire at 62 so I can do it… full time… but building up for now… but of course.. 3.5 yrs is a ways off… anything could happen by then… but, at least I am working toward that… and it is something… that could still be of value, once collapse hits… just not monetary value…

  • Raymond…
    I think that TPTB… decided to do just that, a decade or two ago… because many of them did find out that we are at the end of our rope… that is the only explanation I can come up with as to why nothing was done to stop our hurtling toward the cliff… it was already too late at that time… we would have needed to change… ’bout 4 decades or more ago… especially before the splitting of the atom… in order to have saved our selves… and the planet…
    Those with the means to survive, “comfortably” for another decade or two.. do not care.. when their end comes, they can do it cleanly and comfortably also… so they think..


  • @Apneaman

    ” Nemesis, here is some more science for you to call a lie…”

    When did I call science “a lie”, even if “lying is good for survival” (no, I didn’t say that^^)? But, yeah, all humans are evil, intelligent cancer, bastards with no free will and you are human too, right?

    @Lidia

    ” Please explain why you have chosen to make me the poster-child for that impossible stance… “

    Why do you feel that I was talking to you specifically?^^


    Animals are intelligent, plants are intelligent, the whole Universe is intelligent. Without intelligence, Doctor Guy McPherson wouldn’t have had the background knowledge of ecology, climate change ect. Without intelligence, no animal, no plant can survive. To claim, that intelligence started fatally with Homo Sapiens or some apes, is arrogant. To claim, that only humans or primates got intelligence, is arrogant as well. Life itself is intelligent. Look at the intelligence of a forest or a spider or a snake or a wolve or a cat. Intelligence is everywhere in Nature. Duende is everywhere in Nature.

    The whole Universe is Music, vibration, waves of matter and energie, building elementary particles, atoms, plants, animals, human beings, planets, suns, galaxies and voids and black holes and so on and so on. This is intelligence, cosmic intelligence, not formed through funny scientific books, funny scientific experiments and funny formulas, but through cosmic forces, that are working within us, within everything and everybody. THESE forces give a shit about science, but they are intelligent. Very intelligent. Ultimate intelligence. No, I am not talking about “godheads” in the modern, western, scientific enlightened sense.

    Not intelligence is lethal, but the abuse of intelligence is lethal, the abuse of intelligence is an im- balance of heart and mind.

    Science is funny in some sense:

    It paints a picture of Nature, of natural laws, of mathematics and statistics and calculations, as if the Universe were a machine and the scientist a machine within that machine. And the scientist begins to see the painting as the real world, the map, the constructed map, a piece of fuckin paper with some funny numbers and letters written on it, becomes the real world for the scientist. A picture, a painting, a second- and third-hand map of the Universe, some funny thoughts, imaginations, speculations, calculations, numbers about the big Universe within his little mind, hahaha.

    Some scientist are no better, than some priests. For the priest, it’s the bible and for the scientis it’s the school books. Yes, yes, science is about knowing, while religion is about believing, gnahahaha.

    Shep posted a video about smart, intelligent crows. I will post it again here:



  • Now, modern man reached the stage, where he is circling around his own extinction, staring into the abyss of his own inevitable Death like hyptnotized, fascinated and afraid at the same time. Numinosum Fascinosum and Numinosum Tremendum, the two poles of human spirit. Lust and disgust at the same time. Ambiguity all the time. Even in Music, there is nothing but ambiguity. This is the source of life and death:
    Ambiguity, propabilities, brakedowns of wave functions all the time. Like the tide of an ocean, a cosmic ocean, playing with herself hide and seek.

    Are you a “scientist” and nothing but a “scientist”? Are you a “rationalist”, a “materialist” in that cosmic game? Do you reduce yourself to such TERMS? Then you don’t know yourself, you have yourself forgotten, you identify yourself with a construct, a dream, an illusion. Don’t worry. There was a time, where you haven’t been a “scientist” or “rationalist” or “materialist” and soon you will be beyond all these terms and all other terms again… and again… and again…

    … and PLEASE: Don’t forget to have some fun, from time to time at least. Maybe learn to play a musical instrument or write some poems, take a walk in the park or in the forest, let your mind and heart be free and wide. You can’t be free, you can’t be wide because you consider yourself a soulless automate? Well, bad luck. I will enjoy another day today, wide and free, musically 🙂


  • First, Tom is, again(?), having some difficulty in attempting to post comments here (404 errors) and asked me to convey his regards and include the following link…

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/01/how-to-get-high-on-soil/251935/

    @ Raymond, May 10th, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Thanks for the “reminder” regarding the James Burke programs! They were some of my favorite, must-watch “edu-tainment” shows, too. Damn shame Hulu doesn’t have them available (or even “listed”) and Amazon wants more dinero than I can afford. 🙁

  • @Nemesis, mighta been this, from the last thread: “I imagined Lidia and all people, who claim that there is no free will, but responsibility to be true”

    Have you heard of the book, “Brilliant Green”?

  • @Scott Erickson: [i]”The human race has done some really stupid, egotistical things. Such as steadily destroying the ability of the planet to support life. Such as creating an economic system dependent on that destruction to keep from collapsing. If we were smart, we’d go about changing these stupid things.”[/i]

    We’re a clever, but not a wise, species. Our cleverness will lead to our downfall and, unfortunately, to the extinction of nearly every other form of life.

    That said, I do believe most folks are vaguely aware of the problems caused by our quest for endless growth on a finite planet. However, humans are exceedingly good at ignoring long term threats. To the extent that we think about them, we believe we’ll innovate our way out. Bill Gates for example, believes a technological miracle will save our asses from climate change. Ditto Naomi Klein with her green energy fantasies. Stephen Hawking proposes we find a new planet to colonize! We’ve been thoroughly seduced by technology — even supposedly smart folks. It’s farcical.

    All that remains is mockery.

  • i hear all is fair in love and war…and it always was and always will be. you really have no choice…take it or leave it.

  • For any fans of James Burke’s CONNECTIONS:

    Every one of the 30 shows from all 3 ‘seasons’ of the show are currently available for download at the torrent site widely known as KAT.

    If you’re not a virtual citizen of a ‘torrent-stan’ already, study up on the process before downloading anything. Many ISPs will react negatively to the downloading of copyrighted material.

    But if you have a McDonalds handy, they pretty much all have wifi and you should be able to download nearly anything without a Hollywood cyber-goon looking over your shoulder.

    The companion series “The Day the Universe Changed” is also available, although with fewer seeders.

    If you don’t need these on your home/local computer, I’m pretty sure every one of the individual ‘Connections’ shows is up on YouTube. There are some ‘The Day the Universe Changed’ episodes on YT…not sure about completeness.

    Of course, if you prefer, you can easily find programs that will allow you to download the content directly via YT, avoiding hassles with your ISP.

  • OMG, some white guys have a model that is the Cosmic Answer to all our questions about an issue that occurred over the course of nearly 70,000 years and ended about 12,000 years ago, questions that tell us how to see reality and all its meaning. And human-caused megafauna extinction led “directly to industrial scale agriculture.”

    Now, that’s a stretch! – human-caused megafauna led “directly to industrial scale agriculture.” Whoa! Damn!!! That’s some spectacularly vacuous thinking and so profoundly simplistic that it looks about as substantive as, “Because the Bible says so.” Hey, let’s keep it simple, for the (disastrously) simple minded.

    Robert, I loved this: I have to go cut grass today, I don’t really want, I want to sit around and think about bullshit all day.

    I get to sit around and think about bullshit all day, and it’s really fun.

    I feel the deep need for some Ward Churchill and Vine Deloria right now.

  • Arctic sea ice area & volume spiraling down with a vengeance.

    Way beyond 2 standard deviations.

    Way beyond the record year of 2012.

    https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

    No news about Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, coming Goddesses, pop psychology, the “other side,” or salvation from/by space aliens.

  • @ infanttyrone, May 11th, 2016 at 9:12 am

    Thank you, very, very kindly! A quick search on YT for “James Burke” yields 97,100 results. Many of those on the first page, even, are to episodes of Connections (1,2,3) or TDtUC! Thanks, again. (NB, never been a “fan” of torrent. Too easy to acquire “unwanted extras.”)

  • Callaghan, I think that Robert Scribbler IS a wannabe writer who ALSO writes flapdoodle fiction.

    I also think that he has done a terrific writing job keeping us scientifically informed about global heating.

    Robert’s pieces are genuine classics of disseminating the science of global heating to the public.

  • “It’s ok to have a 5th grade view of God, if, you are in the 5th Grade.”

  • “some folks don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground” – Red Foxx

  • I made a mistake quoting Apnea. Please excuse me. I feel I must use my second post of the day to correct my error:

    “mostly human caused megafauna extinction is what led to industrial scale agriculture.”

    This statement is so, so, so . . .

    I’m not sure I’m talented enough to do justice to this comment. I’m still stunned and stopped dead in my tracks, dumbfounded by it. Yep, straight from the smartest monkeys ever, doncha know. They know everything about everything. The tendency to universalize small pieces of evidence into giant cosmologies that tell us all How All Things Are, Have Been, and Will Be, the God-like omniscience the smartest monkeys obtain from things like their special models, by the way, which date of habitation did they give in this new religious, I mean scientistic, I mean scientific tenant to humans in the west, anyway? The 12,000 year span that has been scientistic, I mean scientific fundamentalism for decades? Or are they using the 32,000 year habitation number that there is evidence for? What about the 50,000+ year habitation that some scholars accept?

    how amazingly accurate the climate models have provided in just the past few decades; I mean, it’s the frickin’ year 2100 out there, by the models. I’m sure that archeological and anthropological models going back tens of thousands of years are far more accurate. And it sure does prove that All People Are The Same Everywhere At All Times (and no one gets to blame entitled westerners for their collective psychopathy and psychosis over the last 1000 years plus, those westerners that now hold the entire western hemisphere, Greenland and Iceland, lots of Africa (they tried to take it all), Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, India (they lost that one after a while), the Middle East, French Polynesia, Fiji, blah, blah, blah.

    Of course, the destruction of the entire world can’t be laid at the feet of the smartest monkeys ever (because All People Are the Same Everywhere, At All Times), even though the wholesale destruction of the world and all life in it followed on their heels everywhere they have gone in the past 400 years, to the point that we all might not make it past a blue ocean event this year.

    Those special monkeys. They have such a special way of combining “facts” and drawing cosmic conclusions that us ordinary humans can’t know, because real humans aren’t God. We’re smart animals, and our ability to understand EVERYTHING from a god-like perspective may be better than the chimpanzees, but not by much, and certainly not as much as those smart monkeys think. The smart monkeys thought they were smarter than the Native Americans because they had guns and telescopes and things. Native Americans throughout the hemisphere had amazing buildings and mounds aligned with many astronomical alignments of planets and stars, from Cahokia to South America, and knew more and were better astronomers even without telescopes, and that is the problem with the smart monkeys.

    Let’s have that example again of the brilliant god-like understanding of the smartest monkeys, because it’s so good it should be enshrined someplace for all to see.

    “mostly human caused megafauna extinction is what led to industrial scale agriculture.”

    There really are no words.

  • Correction: We don’t Hold the middle east, but we sure are destroying it in an attempt to.

  • Guy McPherson Says:
    May 10th, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    …. our myriad predicaments arise from civilization …
    ===============================
    Good point.

    To explain why I say that, let’s start here:

    Insanity in individuals is something rare – but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. – Friedrich Nietzsche
    —————————–
    I would not say that such an attempt to apply psychoanalysis to civilized society would be fanciful or doomed to fruitlessness.

    The diagnosis of collective neuroses, moreover, will be confronted by a special difficulty. In the neurosis of an individual we can use as a starting point the contrast presented to us between the patient and his environment which we assume to be normal. No such background as this would be available for any society similarly affected; it would have to be supplied in some other way. And with regard to any therapeutic application of our knowledge, what would be the use of the most acute analysis of social neuroses, since no one possesses power to compel the community to adopt the therapy? In spite of all these difficulties, we may expect that one day someone will venture upon this research into the pathology of civilized communities. – Sigmund Freud
    —————
    It is forbidden to kill therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. -Voltaire

    And let’s end with this:


    The end of the human race will be that it will eventually die of civilization. – Ralph Waldo Emerson
    ——————-
    In other words, a society does not ever die ‘from natural causes’, but always dies from suicide or murder — and nearly always from the former, as this chapter has shown. – A Study of History, by Arnold J. Toynbee
    (Quotes).

    Many people, including yourself, have picked up on the “DNA” of civilization from several vantage points, as it speeds headlong toward “extinction.”

    I prefer to call it a mass murder-suicide pact.

  • Colin, there are quite a number of Burke’s Connections episodes on youtube.

    Raymond, I’ve had this bookmarked for many years.

  • Since we’re all about exposing the woo woo………………..

    Goodbye to MBTI, the Fad That Won’t Die
    MBTI, I’m breaking up with you. It’s not me. It’s you.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die

    The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-myers-briggs-personality-test-is-pretty-much-meaningless-9359770/?no-ist

  • @Gerald Spezio

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    No news about Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, coming Goddesses, pop psychology, the “other side,” or salvation from/by space aliens.
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    Just wanted to say thanks for all your contributions/comments here at NBL. I for one have learned a lot from you and am glad your back interacting again.

    I have been trying to find out W.T.F. is Going On with this planet since the Crash of 2007/8. Much to say, but just wanted to make sure you know that you are appreciated among many others here.

    In the last 8 years or so I have never run across the name of this writer whom my 92 year old father introduced me to. I did not pick up on his work in my younger/dumber years chasing money, mind controlled by the system. He wrote much about this, “Set of Living Arrangements” which he, back in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s new full well were taking us to extinction.

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    I will pursue the truth, and the truth only, because all else by definition is false, and I am a mind of too much dignity to limit myself by awareness based on falsehood.
    Philip Wylie from Generation of Vipers published 1942
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  • If “ancient wisdom” in the form of various religious beliefs, spirituality, and “non-physical consciousness”, including Buddhist beliefs, supposedly have so much power to benefit human mental health and relationships, as so many people so strongly believe and insist, perhaps someone here will explain why clinical outcome studies do not demonstrate those alleged beneficial effects? (Beyond the often present, powerful placebo effect, and chance, of course.) Shouldn’t we find it pretty easy to see the supposedly significant results of such allegedly powerful processes beyond chance and placebo effect? Yet competently done studies show no or only weak effects at best. (Oh, sorry. I forgot: we supposedly cannot validly study humans using natural scientific methods. At least many commenters at NBL have frequently insisted on that.)

    May 11th, 2016 at 9:31 am oldgrowthforest wrote: “OMG, some white guys have a model….”

    Thanks for so quickly confirming the point I made about some commenters here making ad hominem attacks with your attempt to transform the discussion into a racial fight with this subject-changing, racist comment, which makes about as much sense, and with about as much helpfulness, as me asking in a misogynistic way “Well, what can we expect from a woman anyway?”

  • “No news about Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, coming Goddesses, pop psychology, the “other side,” or salvation from/by space aliens.”… “because real humans aren’t God.”

    “I will pursue the truth, and the truth only, because all else by definition is false”… That’s dualism; looking one way and ignoring the other is Monism. But beyond that is non-dualism.

    Physical perception is through the senses (pratyaksha) and inferential perception (paroksha) arises fron it. Together they are the source of the construct called reality. Then there is direct perception (aparoksha), that is overlooked much as a fish might overlook water. It is the substrate for the other two aspects of perception and the construct therefrom. The reality that houses “beneficial effects” is itself housed within this. But ask a fish “Is your nose wet?” would be a more effective query.

  • In the second half Max interviews Dr. Michael Hudson, author of Killing the Host, about the earnings laundering purpose of Panama and how that relates to the long-forgotten revelations of the #PanamaPapers.

    This information puts a whole new spin on, Ruppert’s

    “Until We Change the Way Money Works, We Change Nothing”

    This also dovetails nicely with John McMurtry’s talk on the Radio Show 5/10/16. Money Sequencing Cancer

  • Daily CO2

    May 10, 2016: 408.08 ppm

    May 10, 2015: 403.50 ppm

    Up 4.58 ppm

  • FETCH BOO BOO FETCH

    James Burke Connections 1978

    Connections 2

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/

    Connections 3

    http://documentaryheaven.com/james-burke-connections/

  • Human beings will defend to the death their right to be wrong.

    Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margins of Error – Kathryn Schulz. One of the BEST books on why humanity resists the truth. Often with horrific results.

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    Newsflash from Bud:

    White dude raised in Utah has issues with native people.

    Gosh, you don’t say. That’s almost a cliche, isn’t it?

    The embrace of stupidity indeed.

  • This may be the wrong place for my comment, but it looks as though comments are shut for some of your older posts.

    I’m not an engineer (only software, and that doesn’t count), but I listen to some people who claim to be, or chemists etc. It looks as though a possible way to make enough “industrial society” to take care of the existing nuclear reactors is with more advanced nuclear reactors. See for example the advocacy by Kirk Sorensen on YouTube. Seeing his stuff leads to talks by lots of others who are interested in this category of possible solution. Note that what they are talking about could substantially change the stream of byproducts or “waste” to where it would have to be stored for much shorter times o. t. o. only 300 years.

  • Great find, Satish! From the article:

    “In the southern hemisphere, the seasonal cycle is less pronounced and atmospheric levels of CO2 hardly drop, usually just slowing in the southern hemisphere summer months. This week scientists revealed to Fairfax Media that Cape Grim had a reading of 399.9ppm on 6 May. Within weeks it would pop above 400ppm and never return.

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    “We wouldn’t have expected to reach the 400ppm mark so early,” said David Etheridge, an atmospheric scientist from the CSIRO, which runs the Cape Grim station. “With El Nino, the ocean essentially caps off it’s ability to take up heat so the concentrations are growing fast as warmer land areas release carbon. So we would have otherwise expected it to happen later in the year.

    “No matter what the world’s emissions are now, we can decrease growth but we can’t decrease the concentration.

    “Even if we stopped emitting now, we’re committed to a lot of warming.”

    Over in Hawaii, the Mauna Loa station, which is the longest-running in the world, is sitting above 400 ppm, and for the first time, might never dip below it again.

    “It’s hard to predict,” Butler told the Guardian. “It’s getting real close.”

    Meanwhile, the global average, after controlling for the seasonal cycle, popped above 400ppm late last year. Within a couple of years, the seasonal dips will never drop below 400ppm in the global average too.”

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    I’d like to thank Gerald for directing me over to the Scribbler site. Imagine my surprise when I saw his spiritual message, along with the delightfully respectful comments that followed. It’s nice to see a science minded person who is able to also decipher the sociological and psychological underpinnings contained within some of the ancient parables passed down to us. Some people get and can perceive metaphor, while others only take things literally and get confused about authoritative sky daddies and other such nonsense.

    Thanks again Gerald for directing me to his site. It wasn’t at all like the brutality of Ferguson MO or Bud’s Utah bias. On the contrary, it seemed quite open minded and rational. I thought of you and had a little chuckle as I read Scribbler’s blog and comments today.

    Cheers Gerald. (lol) 🙂

  • We just need to turn to the bible, LWA. It is “an ancient guide for civilization survival!”

    “The Bible is, after all, a sort of lore of the ancients passed down over hundreds of generations. A book of parables and lessons for how human beings should treat one another in ways that help not only individuals — but the entire race to survive. In this way, the Bible could be seen as an ancient guide for civilization survival. A book that includes numerous passages on how cities and nations can prosper by living in balance with one another and with nature. And one that issues this essential and stark warning to those who do not treat the Earth and her creatures with kindness. For ‘those who destroy the Earth shall be destroyed.’”

  • What do we do about it? Urge people to turn off the TV (idiot box), which will happen anyway when the power grid goes down. No awakening or positive changes will be forthcoming until negative impacts are felt.

  • Guy…thanks again for keeping the asylum open.

  • Bud, you project, and it is so obvious. Your very first sentence in your own post regarding how some people will surely respond to your own racist blather by being low-minded enough to personally attack an author that no one cares about, is itself an ad hominem attack.

    Your bizarre fixation on debunking what you think is the “Noble Savage myth,” is extreme racism. One need only look at its use in American history, something I’ve addressed very well in the past, but you, like you think everyone else does, ignores evidence in place of the alternate reality you insist on pushing on anyone you think doesn’t agree with you.

    For sure, if women had collectively behaved as white men in Euro-centric cultures have behaved over the past half a millennia everywhere in the world, and if they behaved like you and that genius of scientific understanding Apneaman, you would be well within your rights to say something like, “Well, what can we expect from a woman anyway?” In fact, I’d say it with you.

    This culture is a complete failure at living on the Earth with other forms of life. Not just a failure, but a humanistic, mechanistic, psychopathic failure. You do nothing with your obsessive noble savage rants but prove what a failure the culture is, and why it has been for a really long time.

  • have you considered starting some kind of 12 step program for people addicted to doom? it’s a tough habit to break. never mind ,that would involve invoking hope.


  • Extreme materialists/rationalists, who bash religion/spirituality almost automatically, mostly suffered very much from western religion, christianity and/or western Empire education in general. As you know, christianity did a lot of harm to a lot of people during 2000 years. Christianity can be a real nightmare, you know that. So, yeah, they act from subconsciousness. It’s like someone, who has been forced by brute force to “comb that hair neatly!” and to “give respect to god and authorities in general!” and “do that and don’t do that, or you will go to Hell!” and all that sick shit. So they hate christianity for good reasons and generalize their very own, private experiences of christian real hell and confuse it with any other religion/spirituality. But most of them never really worked with their own biography, to get over it. Instead, that god-figure, that has been put into their souls/psyche, turns into a prophet of science, a priest of science and materialism/rationalism, gnahahaha. It’s the very same arrogant, patriarchic bully up there in heaven, who is within them, knowing everything, always right, never wrong, almighty, all-knowing. In that sense, they are still victims of christianity, exactly like those, who are still brave, small-minded christians, ahahaha. These kinda people are victims of modern education.

    There is a very, very deep connection between modern science and christianity, historically and psychologically as well. It’s the myth of the maker, the doer, the unmoved mover, who is outside of creation, outside of the Cosmos. This maker, this doer is like an Archimedes, who measures the world from outside, untouched by his own work:

    Here is the doer, the scientist and there is the world, the artifact, the thing. And the scientist measures and measures and measures. This guy can tell you everything about a good fuck, but he never fucked, only theoretically. He can read every single note of a song, on a piece of paper, but he never played any tone. He is fooled by the map of the world and therefore, he can’t see the real world. The technocrat, the scientist wants desperately CREATE, PROCREATE, but he can’t, he is impotent. Mother Nature gives life, without any thought, without any formula, without any science at all. Mother Nature is fertile, she creates. But the scientist, the technocrat CAN’T do that, gnahahaha. He can’t create life in his laboratory, he can’t even create a single, funny blade of gras, haaahaha. And therefore he suffers, he lacks experience, he lacks commitment to Nature, he must kill an animal, to tell you, what’s “inside”, he must kill the world, he must take the world, Nature apart, to tell you, what’s “inside”, “within”, at the core, at the heart of Life, hahaha. But he can never create like Mother Nature.

    But when the night comes, when they get tired, then they must give up, then they can’t resist any longer, they give up their small “I” in time and space, that well measured little thing called “I, the rationalist, I, the scientist”. Then they dive into irrationality, chaos, dreaming, phantasy, dreams beyond well measured time and space. And they do that every night, secretly, hahaha 😀

    About racists like Bud Nye et al:

    Just lay back and enjoy the BILL for enslaving and killing entire native nations for hundreds of years. They warned you about the final results of Empire crimes for centuries. The time to pay is NOW. Enjoy.

  • Woody, I read Phillip Wylie’s GENERATION OF VIPERS 57 years ago, when I was 19. I had just finished my freshman year. It was one of the first “radical” books that I read. I was just starting to “learn.”

    I just finished Sherwin Nuland’s very deep thinking/reflecting in HOW WE DIE.

  • A friend just commented to me on the Arctic methane release and referred me to this:

    The Buddha’s advice on impending ( in his time only hypothetical ) unstoppable catastrophe, ageing, sickness and death ( similar to Guy’s advice ).

    Pabbatopama Sutta: The Simile of the Mountains

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn03/sn03.025.than.html

  • I think this video/talk sums it ALL up. When you understand the symbolism behind the Cross and the Crown you can see why Government is No different than the Church.

    “A book of parables and lessons for how human beings should treat one another in ways that help not only individuals — but the entire race to survive.

    “Who was King James and why was it so important to make the “Authorized” version of the Bible? “Cross and Crown” by this sign we shall Rule.”

    YES many good parables and lessons, but you need to take out the Authority of GAWD, the Priest Class and understand Natural Law, which is actually God, Nature, Truth,…or whatever you wish to call the Reality of the way the Universe actually works.

    We have BOTH the Spiritual Realm (that reality which we can not perceive/decode with our human biological computer) and the Physical Realm which we can perceive/decode. Example is a doG whistle produces a sound which we can not hear, but we know does exist. We all know that the spectrum of light and sound we can perceive is extremely narrow, yet is does Exist and is governed by Natural Law as well.

    I have a good friend which always says, well if you don’t believe that the Bible is the “Word of God” then just throw it in the trash. NO, those writings are important to study along with the other ancient texts. Much light is shed on this by Michael Tsarion’s work in Atlantis, Irish Origins and Astro-theology presentations.

    We can not Fool Mother Nature which is why we will go extinct.

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    Published on Jan 1, 2016

    This is a Summary of Larken Rose’s Monumental book entitled “The Most Dangerous Superstition”, Narrated by Amanda Rachwitz.

    Larken Rose is known for debunking the most dangerous superstition, Government. He is a Voluntaryist/Anarchist and a tax protester, as well as an author of several books. Larken promotes the concepts of self-ownership and a voluntary society, writing articles, giving talks and making videos available at his website; http://www.LarkenRose.com

  • “Here is the doer, the scientist and there is the world, the artifact, the thing. And the scientist measures and measures and measures. This guy can tell you everything about a good fuck, but he never fucked, only theoretically. He can read every single note of a song, on a piece of paper, but he never played any tone. He is fooled by the map of the world and therefore, he can’t see the real world. The technocrat, the scientist wants desperately CREATE, PROCREATE, but he can’t, he is impotent. Mother Nature gives life, without any thought, without any formula, without any science at all. Mother Nature is fertile, she creates. But the scientist, the technocrat CAN’T do that, gnahahaha. He can’t create life in his laboratory, he can’t even create a single, funny blade of gras, haaahaha. And therefore he suffers, he lacks experience, he lacks commitment to Nature, he must kill an animal, to tell you, what’s “inside”, he must kill the world, he must take the world, Nature apart, to tell you, what’s “inside”, “within”, at the core, at the heart of Life, hahaha. But he can never create like Mother Nature.”

    You’re onto something, Nemesis. Everything humans make is dead, and we can only make dead things, unless we’re having babies, and we don’t “make” those like we do other things. We can only reassemble materials that exist, things that we have received from the Earth.

    We have trashed Life itself to make dead things, so we can talk about them and have a relationship with each other, unconsciously looking for someone to care about and to care about us. Unfortunately, killing everything as a way of being and learning and connecting to the world and other people ensures that every relationship we have, even with ourselves, is doomed. It’s as doomed as the carcasses of living beings we crush under our feet to get where we think we want to go, to have an infinite number of things we don’t need, to know things no human mind can know through all our god-like measuring. Amen on that, Nemesis.

  • If you carefully analyze the chart on the right, you will notice that the Arctic sea ice extent for early May 2016 is equal to the extreme low extent ever reached in early JUNE 2012.

    search; NSIDC Arctic sea ice extent.

  • MOD NOTE:

    The sort order for comments has been changed to place the newest comments at the top in stead of at the bottom. Comments and opinions welcome, as always.

  • Exponential Manufacturing

    There’s a lot of material at the link below, over 10 hrs (didn’t know one could do that on YouTube) but it offers the optimists viewpoint. Somewhat aggravating but…

    Exponential Manufacturing Live stream | May 10-11 2016 | Singularity Universityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJ23wTcZ20

  • Good move on the comments change, though it gave me a few moments irritation when I first logged on earlier.
    Have just been standing in early morning sun after doing the round of poultry feeding, watching seven young rabbits exploring on their second day out of the burrow. As cute a scene as one could hope to see and a lovely way to start the day.
    It’s a strange old world that sees cute turn into problematic in rapid time.Seems to be a design fault or something.
    Now who can I blame for that?

    Two days ago it was 20c at 6 30am in an unheated bus,three weeks off winter.

  • If the comment order is changed, the line order within each comment should be changed: first line of the comment at the bottom and the last line of the comment at the top.

    That will allow consistent scrolling in one direction. After reading a comment one can continue to scroll upwards to the first line of the next comment, instead of scrolling down through a (sometimes long) comment and then up through the entire length of that comment and the entire length of the succeeding (possibly also long) comment to get to its first line.

    Also the comment box should be at the top instead of the bottom, so that after reading all the comments one does not have to scroll all the way to the bottom to enter a new comment!

    Sent from my iPad ??

  • Jolly D’Bugger, thanks for the link to the Singularity University presentation. This beach of doom here is quite something… where else can one find a video of James Burke’s “The Technology Trap” and a video touting the latest advances in Hi-Tech on the same page?

    It is left to us to come to our own conclusions. My take – Burke is right. Technology is a trap.

    Silicon Valley is a hyper-inflated bubble in many ways these days and the worldview held by its brainwashed denizens is part of the picture. Salesmen such as Peter Diamandis have been saying the most outlandish things for years and his speech the other day is no different. Consider what he says at the 2h 16 min mark – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJ23wTcZ20&start=2h16m – not only is he saying he doesn’t watch the news, he’s in fact telling his audience they would do better if they didn’t either.

    Now, it’s quite likely that he, like many other pitchmen the valley has seen for decades, says one thing and believes another. It’s probable he is aware of how the exponential function works in areas other than manufacturing and technology, but you wouldn’t hear it from him.

    Ultimately, it is left to us to come to our own conclusions when faced with seemingly contradictory messages. Whatever life on Earth amounts to these days, it is one thing for sure – the grandest puzzle of all with layers and layers of deception and discovery.

  • Robin, well said 🙂 I much prefer the older sort order (latest comment at the bottom).

  • Green hyperlinks. At first I thought I was trippin’. Thanks mo, richards.

    Tower Of Power – The Skunk, The Goose, & The Fly (1970)

    Do those dudes miss a beat? I don’t think so.

  • ogardener ~

    “Thanks mo, richards.”

    not us. 🙂

    leprechauns.

    or someone else…

    all feedback is welcome.

  • The new comment order is completely asinine and counter-intuitive, all it does is make it easier for the moderators. To reply to a comment, I now have to scroll to the top to check references and then back to the bottom. Stupid.

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    Here’s a thought about the post order going in reverse. It means people perusing historical threads will start out with all the ‘basement’ talk right off the bat. All the random lovefest stuff first. It would be better to see the thread starting out with all the comments about the new essay post first, rather than all that basement talk. Just a thought, some feedback.

    Thanks for the Tower of Power ogardener. The funk masters supreme. David Garibaldi is a killer funk drummer. Did you know all of Phil Collins solo work used the Tower of Power horns, both in the studio and on all his tours too? I know this may not be the greatest song ever recorded, but it sure has red hot horn playing on it. Go Tower of Power horn section ! Thanks again for the TOP.

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  • .
    The wider paragraphs are much better though. Keep that.

  • RC ~

    “all it does is make it easier for the moderators”

    seriously. not us. we did not have anything to do with these changes, and it makes no difference to us.

    all feedback welcome, and will be taken onboard without bias from the mods.

    ~ mo

  • I’m seriously confused – I mean tenet, not tenant.

  • LWA said
    It would be better to see the thread starting out with all the comments about the new essay post first, rather than all that basement talk.

    I agree. Once a new article posts you want to just scroll down through and get the idea about what is being said. Even a couple days into a thread when you scroll down through it jogs thoughts that maybe you had no time to comment on, or thoughts have developed based on all that has been said and is reviewed scrolling down through the thread.

    It flows much better the Old Way.

    Yeah, good test, but my vote is the original way.

  • ogf,

    tenet….tenant
    Don’t worry, most folks here probably knew to substitute the one you meant.

    Strict adherence to isomorphic orthography is the leased of our problems now.
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    Just one? Y?
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    This one’s just here because of writing…no Noble Savage tenets involved…not my circus, not my bipeds.

  • Contact tne WordPress.org TPTB and let them know:

    http://www.wordpress-website.org/contact/

    Also the wider format cuts off the left margin including the left part of the captcha, so I have to log in to post.

  • All you fucking winers are assuming that your responses to others comments are welcome or interesting.
    I read this bog frequently and briefly. I appreciate the lack of scrolling to read the latest comments,especially once it hits the second page.
    But frankly my dear I don’t give a damn either way. Some of you really need to get a life while you can.

  • Friday, May 13, 2016

    Arctic Sea Ice gone by September 2016?

    https://arctic-news.blogspot.ca/2016/05/arctic-sea-ice-gone-by-september-2016.html

    [daily test of recurring 404 troubles]

  • Sincerest apologies to mods, confess to anti-mod bias, but if any site needed them, it’s this one. Keep up the light touch folks.

    50 million Africans face famine from worse drought in 50 years.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/drought-threatens-50-million-people-in-africa-a-1091684.html

    Alex and Paul discuss the revolutionary Hansen paper.
    – 2 meter sea rise in 30 years.
    – 100 foot ocean wave trains. choo choo!

    Climate heating will end our world, but humans drive the change.

    Humans are driving mass extinction, not climate.

    Killary Hissinger will ensure it ends violently.

    We came, we saw, we died.

    BeezleyBillyBub and Loki (hoof and paw)

    http://www.reddit.com/user/BeezleyBillyBub/

    http://lokisrevengeblog.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/no-soil-water-before-100-renwable-energy/

  • Hey, waddiya know – today I’m allowed to post!

    World’s atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration teetering on the point of no return – ‘We’re going into very new territory’

    http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2016/05/worlds-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide.html

    [quote]

    The first 400ppm milestone was reached in 2013 when a station on the Hawaiian volcano of Mauna Loa first registered a monthly average of 400ppm. But the northern hemisphere has a large seasonal cycle, where CO2 concentrations decrease in summer but increase in winter. So each year since it has dipped back below 400ppm.

    Then, combining all the global readings, the global monthly average was found to pass 400ppm in March 2015.

    In the southern hemisphere, the seasonal cycle is less pronounced and atmospheric levels of CO2 hardly drop, usually just slowing in the southern hemisphere summer months. This week scientists revealed to Fairfax Media that Cape Grim had a reading of 399.9ppm on 6 May. Within weeks it would pop above 400ppm and never return.

    “We wouldn’t have expected to reach the 400ppm mark so early,” said David Etheridge, an atmospheric scientist from the CSIRO, which runs the Cape Grim station. “With El Nino, the ocean essentially caps off it’s ability to take up heat so the concentrations are growing fast as warmer land areas release carbon. So we would have otherwise expected it to happen later in the year.

    “No matter what the world’s emissions are now, we can decrease growth but we can’t decrease the concentration.

    “Even if we stopped emitting now, we’re committed to a lot of warming.”

  • Scott,

    Congrats on the novel.

    You may receive a visit from the though police for having had a bit too much to think (Global Climate & Homeland Insecurity – 2).

  • Has anyone taken a good look at Gulf Stream flow over at Earth.Nullschool.net lately? It’s taken a track northward towards the southern tip of Greenland. This might make for extremely “Interesting Times” in the Arctic in a year in which northward drifting coconuts now see a glimmer of hope…

  • Charctic Interactive is BACK showing the ominous predictive empirical data leading to climate catastrophe, large-to-massive Arctic methane release, & near term extinction.

    Guy McPherson is still trying his best to inform the world …

    As Kiwi Kevin has previously stated; “We will REALLY know plenty by THIS September.”

    The big heat is here.

    Make the most of your days left.